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FeliciVagano
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Personal Responsibility in Food Consumption Act of 2005
By U.S House
Oct 20, 2005, 13:19
H.R.554 : To prevent legislative and regulatory functions from being usurped by civil liability actions brought or continued against food manufacturers, marketers, distributors, advertisers, sellers, and trade associations for claims of injury relating to a person's weight gain, obesity, or any health condition associated with weight gain or obesity.
Sponsor: Rep Keller, Ric [FL-8] (introduced 2/2/2005) Cosponsors (85)
Committees: House Judiciary
House Reports: 109-130
Latest Major Action: 10/19/2005 Passed/agreed to in House. Status: On passage Passed by the Yeas and Nays: 306 - 120 (Roll no. 533).
( http://www.foodconsumer.org/777/8/Personal_Responsibility_in_Food_Consumption_Act_of_2005.shtml )
....The present study for the first time demonstrates, that a widely used nutritional monosubstance - the flavouring agent MSG - at concentrations that only slightly surpass those found in everyday human food, exhibits significant potential for damaging the hypothalamic regulation of appetite, and thereby determines the propensity of world-wide obesity. We suggest to reconsider the recommended daily allowances of amino acids and nutritional protein, and to abstain from the popular protein-rich diets, and particularly from adding the flavouring agents MSG.European Journal of Clinical Nutrition advance online publication, 31 August 2005; doi:10.1038/sj.ejcn.1602263.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=PubMed&cmd=search&term=MSG
...and thank  for republicans. 
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| Jan 27, 2006 @ 6:28 PM |
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soultry_one
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Not to mention all the sugar in processed foods,even foods that don't need sugar,also soda consumption. No wonder there are so many diabetics nowadays. Lack of excercise too. Too much computer usage? 
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| Jan 27, 2006 @ 6:32 PM |
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SunBabe
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Ummmm...could you please back that up with some photos of FAT CHINESE? 
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| Jan 27, 2006 @ 6:55 PM |
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hopeful_lady
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For some strange reasons, the Asians can keep from getting overweight whereas the westerners are extremely fat and I do believe its the MSG flavor enhancer that causes it. The whole idea of its use is to get us dumb westerners to buy the foods, the more hungry we feel the more we eat and the more we have to go and get more. Its a trick of the Industries. The Asians are wise and keep themselves in check.
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| Jan 27, 2006 @ 7:18 PM |
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FeliciVagano
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Sunbabe..roll your eyes all you want... 
http://www.forbes.com/commerce/2004/10/13/cx_da_1013topnews.html
Top Of The News
Fat In China
Dan Ackman, 10.13.04, 9:44 AM ET
NEW YORK - It had to happen sooner or later: The Chinese, already richer, are getting fatter.
Two years ago, China got its first drive-through Yum! Brands' Kentucky Fried Chicken and at the same time private car ownership has surged (see: "Fat And Happy In Oak Brook And Beijing"). Now a government survey concludes that there are 60 million obese people in China. That's slightly more than there are in the United States.
China, of course, has more people, and its obesity rate is far lower than America's. But it's catching up. The survey indicates that the number of obese people in China doubled between 1992 and 2002. If the trend continued--the survey took some time to tabulate--China has overtaken America as the fat capital of the world.
The prevalence of diseases related to an unhealthy diet and lifestyle is also on the rise, the government said.
The new statistic derives from China's first comprehensive national survey on diet, nutrition and diseases, which was conducted by the Ministry of Health. It found that 7.1% of Chinese adults were obese and 22.8% were overweight, Wang Longde, China's vice minister of health, told a news conference. He added that an estimated 200 million of China's population of around 1.3 billion were overweight.
In the U.S., the obesity rate is 30.5% and about 65% are considered overweight, according to the National Center for Health Statistics. With the U.S. population at 294.5 million, it looks like China has edged past the U.S. in its number of overweight folks, as well.
"Compared with the nutrition survey results of 1992, the prevalence of being overweight has increased 39% and the prevalence of obesity increased 97%," the vice minister said, as quoted in newswire reports. He said both trends are likely to continue, as Forbes.com predicted two years ago.
While the survey results are for 2002, they were not revealed until this week because the nationwide survey of 270,000 took that long to tabulate. The study linked the rise in obesity to the decline poverty and fattier diets, the same trends that have affected the West.
A separate survey said that about 60% of adults in Beijing are overweight, and obesity has become more and more common among children there, according to a Reuters report.
It is not clear, though, whether the Chinese surveys use the same definitions of obesity as in the U.S. or elsewhere.
But health officials said they are seeing some of the same medical problems. The hypertension rate among adults has reached 18.8%, increasing by 31% since 1991. About 160 million Chinese people suffer from high blood pressure, the study found. About 20 million people--2.6% of the adult population--are diabetic.
"The Chinese population does not have enough awareness and lacks knowledge of what is a reasonable nutrition and diet," Wang said. Some Chinese people were consuming an excessive amount of meat, oils and fats and not enough cereal, especially urban residents. With fewer Chinese doing physical labor, more driving cars instead of bicycles, lifestyle has played a prominent role in the trend.
Also part of the trend: fast-food restaurants feeding the People's Republic. Kentucky Fried Chicken leads the way, according to a report by the Foreign Agricultural Service of the U.S. Department of Agriculture. McDonald's , which has a "worldwide partnership" with NBA star Yao Ming, has been expanding rapidly there. Japan's Mos Burger, local Western-style fast-food chains, Japanese fast-food chains, and Yum! Brands' Pizza Hut are also establishing presences.
While the trend in China parallels that in the U.S., it is "much more rapid," says Frank Hu, an associate professor in the nutrition department at the Harvard School of Public Health, who has conducted his own studies of the phenomenon. "The numbers are staggering," Hu says, as the jump in obesity, especially in cities and among children, has come after just one or two decades of rapid urbanization and what Hu calls the "westernization of diet and lifestyle."
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| Jan 27, 2006 @ 7:24 PM |
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FeliciVagano
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http://www.organicconsumers.org/foodsafety/msg091405.cfm
....we started asking at the restaurants what menu items had MSG.
Many employees, even the managers, swore they didn't use MSG. But when we ask for the ingredient list, which they grudgingly provided, sure enough MSG and Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein were everywhere:
Burger King McDonalds Wendy's Taco Bell
And every restaurant like: TGIF, Chilis', Applebees and Denny's use MSG in abundance.
Kentucky Fried Chicken seemed to be the WORST offender: MSG was in EVERY chicken dish, salad dressing and gravy. No wonder I loved to eat that coating on the skin, their secret spice was MSG.
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| Jan 27, 2006 @ 7:49 PM |
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SunBabe
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Actually, I've seen that report (or one like it), but doesn't it attribute the obesity among the Chinese to adopting the western diet?... The fats and sugars and processed/fast foods foods, not MSG? MSG is an "old timey" flavor enhancer which I doubt has significant effect when used in moderation, the same as fats, salts and sugars.
I'm a big believer in "personal responsibility" when it comes to diet: don't blame the fast food chains, blame your appetite. I love a big juicy Whopper and shake just as much as the next person, but am still old fashioned enough to consider it a "treat", not an everyday meal. My children were raised the same way, and neither them ever had a weight problem (except for the year my daughter spent in Russia where her diet consisted of fats and starches -- she gained 30 pounds which she lost promptly when she resumed her normal healthy American diet)
I've weighed 122 pounds since I was 15 years old (and that was a long LONG time ago! ) I've cooked with MSG, fat salt and sugar forever, but never overabundently...with anything. A BALANCE and some common sense is what it takes. If a person finds they have a craving for something fattening due to MSG or salt or whatever, it's up to THEM to decide whether to give in.
Heck, nobody can go through a pound of M&Ms or fudge faster than I can, but common sense says not to do that too often...and not to do that in addition to a high calorie meal -- do it instead, even if it's not the most nutritional 'fuel'.
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| Jan 27, 2006 @ 8:12 PM |
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Checkmate
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Personally, MSG is a pet peeve of mine.  It's a flavor enhancer.The junk gives me headaches and screws my system up. I am not the only one. I'm sure others who are affected by it don't even realize it! I read ingredients on everything and it sucks to have to ask if they use it every time I go to a new resaurant.
Some other products that have it:
* Accent - main ingredient!
* Chick-fil-et - in breaded and marinaded chicken.
* Some TV dinners - Marie Caladers
* Some lunchmeats, especially the cheaper and/or fancied-up ones. Honey-baked whatever.
* Some canned soups.
* Croutons.
Lots more.....
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| Jan 27, 2006 @ 9:21 PM |
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beatriceistheone
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I have to disagree with MSGs making people fatter. In the 1970s, when there was less obesity, people were still eating lunch meats, that evil food w/MSGs.
The big incentive for people to eat healthier is to lower the price of produce and meat. The cheapest food you can buy at a grocery store is bad for you.
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| Jan 27, 2006 @ 9:27 PM |
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sciurusniger
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Various studies over the last several years have shown that when Asians raised "typically" (i.e. eating a diet high in plant fiber with very little meat and fat and greater overall activity) move to the United States, their incident of western diseases such as high blood pressure, overweight, and heart disease become equal to ours in a very short amount of time.
It is our diet (high in trans fats and sugars) combined with our sedentary lifestyle which is the biggest reason we've not won any "war" on disease, despite billions being pumped into research.
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| Jan 27, 2006 @ 9:30 PM |
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crackerchickie
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Ummmm...could you please back that up with some photos of FAT CHINESE?
As usual Sunbabe, you make me !!
Okay, there is something missing from this info that you are stating. If you learn neurobiology you will discover that the hypothalamus is not the seat of satiation. Nothing is. Satiation, or the feeling of being full and not hungry is a combination of factors. Stretch receptors in the stomach, chemoreceptors in the reptilian brain, etc. Even baroreceptors in places like the aortic arch all decide whether a person is satiated. There is no particular food, or food additive that can 'mess' with somatic tendency to homeostasis.
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| Jan 27, 2006 @ 9:45 PM |
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Checkmate
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If MSG is a "flavor enhancer", then if something tastes better, you want to eat more of it!
As for "receptors", a long time ago I believe I read something about MSG affecting your taste buds, which enhanced what you are tasting. Perhaps the info was wrong or I misread it. But if the stuff affects taste buds, than it can affect other parts of your system. If so, that may be why it also makes me sick! But, of course, different people can be affected in different ways. Kind of like allergies and other food intolerences.
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| Jan 27, 2006 @ 9:52 PM |
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FeliciVagano
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Toxicity of hypercaloric diet and monosodium glutamate: oxidative stress and metabolic shifting in hepatic tissue.
Diniz YS, Fernandes AA, Campos KE, Mani F, Ribas BO, Novelli EL.
Post Graduation Course Department of Clinical and Cardiology, Faculty of Medicine, UNESP, Botucatu, Sao Paulo, Brazil.
The present study examines the effects of a hypercaloric diet on hepatic glucose metabolism of young rats, with and without monosodium glutamate (MSG) administration, and the association of these treatments with evaluating markers of oxidative stress.
Male weaned Wistar rats (21 days old) from mothers fed with a hypercaloric diet or a normal diet, were divided into four groups (n=6):
control (C) fed with control diet;
(MSG) treated with MSG (4 mg/g) and control diet;
(HD) fed with hypercaloric diet
and (MSG-HD) treated with MSG and HD.
Rats were sacrificed after the oral glucose tolerance test (OGTT), at 45 days of treatments. Serum was used for insulin determination. Glycogen, hexokinase(HK), glucose-6-phosphatase(G6PH), lipid hydroperoxide, superoxide dismutase(SOD) and glutathione peroxidase(GSH-Px) were determined in liver.
HD rats showed hypoglycemia, hyperinsulinemia, and high hepatic glycogen, HK and decreased G6PH.
MSG and MSG-HD had hyperinsulinemia, hyperglycemia, decreased HK and increased G6PH in hepatic tissue. These animals had impaired OGTT.
HD, MSG and MSG-HD groups had increased lipid hydroperoxide and decreased SOD in hepatic tissue.
Hypercaloric diet and monosodium glutamate administration induced alterations in metabolic rate of glucose utilization and decreased antioxidant defenses.
Therefore, the hepatic glucose metabolic shifting induced by HD intake and MSG administration were associated with oxidative stress in hepatic tissue.
PMID: 14667476 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=14667476&query_hl=4&itool=pubmed_docsum
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| Jan 27, 2006 @ 9:59 PM |
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FeliciVagano
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Not to mention all the sugar in processed foods,even foods that don't need sugar,also soda consumption. No wonder there are so many diabetics nowadays. Lack of excercise too. ..... 
more than you know soultry_one  ...sugar is pure evil....
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| Jan 27, 2006 @ 10:12 PM |
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Angel54214
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Soda.... Children start drinking soda at a very young age. High content is sugar and caffeine. Contributes greatly to obesity in children. Here's a good link about soda!
http://www.mercola.com/2001/mar/10/soda_pop_dangers.htm
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| Jan 28, 2006 @ 1:24 PM |
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Aselune
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plain and simple..if the input doesn't equal the energy expenditure...a weight increase will happen...
yes I understand SOME people have actual medical problems and medications can increase weight..I'm not talking about those...
..but you can't blame everything on chemical substances added into food either...Cortisol increases fat also as it activates gluconeogenisis in the liver...and what activates cortisol? Stress..in a round about way..with the increased hormones that stress incures..so now..we can blame fat on stress too...bah...
then I begin to wonder..if these forums is just a place for everyone to air their thoughts and feelings about fat..it sure does seem to be the main topic...and while it's great for my research..it sure does get old
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| Jan 28, 2006 @ 1:41 PM |
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TiNkErGrRrRrR
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then I begin to wonder..if these forums is just a place for everyone to air their thoughts and feelings about fat..it sure does seem to be the main topic...and while it's great for my research..it sure does get old
I second that thought Aselune 
people seem to be obsessed about the weight thing 
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| Jan 28, 2006 @ 3:46 PM |
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surfergee
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Hmmm...whenever I was dairy farming we would often get together to discuss ways to get the cows to give more milk. The general consensus was: more food intake= more milk. Cows have a sweet tooth so we used to add molasses to everything. MSG eh? I'll have to pass that on to my friends still in the business...
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