| Jan 30, 2006 @ 5:03 PM |
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sirdidymus
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not sure if anyone remembers the controvery surrounding the dixie chicks from a couple of years back when they're lead singer said some duragotory things about the president while overseas
it seemed the whole country was in an uproar over this. the dixie chicks never said anything duragatory about the troops - only about the government in charge. this culminated in a war of worlds eventually leading to the dixie chicks music being black-listed on the radio.
i never understood that. to me, this is a free country and part of what makes this country free - is the freedom of expression. not only that, but the dixie chicks were one of the few bands/people that actually sang country music in the country genre (go figure - huh!) So it was like, the country music scene got rid of one of the few bands that actually still sang/played, country music.
to this day i never really understood that. well it seems the controversy is going to be renewed due to an intervew the lead singer did with entertainment weekly. when i was listening to the DJ on the radio today, he made a good point that i hadn't thought about. It wasn't so much that the dixie chicks said something bad about the government, but the fact that they did it in a foreign country (england) - i guess that was taken to be disrespectful - i can kind of see the point there actually.
so i'm not sure what to think and i'd like to hear other's opinions. how do you feel about the dixie chicks expressing their anti-bush sentiments while abroad? whatever we may feel, does that warrant and should it really have anything to do with the playing of their music?
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| Jan 30, 2006 @ 7:28 PM |
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Haban3ro
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I'm not even sure they've had a big hit since "Goodbye, Earl".
Ho-hum.
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| Jan 30, 2006 @ 9:03 PM |
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AngelLight
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"i never understood that. to me, this is a free country"
I understand it Sir
This is not a free country, it only appears that way on the surface but if we dig a little deeper it is illusion
Your freedom of speech is only good until what you say starts rocking the social and political foundations for change such that those who own the wealth in this nation fear that this change will change how much wealth they have.
Change in relation to racism, poverty, human equality, education, the equalizing of who gets paid what and for what etc etc.
You say too much or lead a movement for changing the power balance in relation to money, and you'll get a bullet in your head.
1% of the entire US pop owns more than 50% of the wealth.
This country is set up so that people believe it is free when indeed it is not. Look at what happened with Bush's getting "elected".
Money runs this country, not freedom.
The way the US government historically and currently causes world chaos and intense human suffering is beyond imagination. Our government just appears to be more "civilized" than "terrorists" because the people in our government walk around in suits. Our own government has terrorized other nations for decades but our way of doing things is much more covert.
Now, I know some may say "Well if you dont like it leave"....so party line. So much for freedom of speech.
If other's in the world are not free, and our government continues to have it's hands where they need not be for the sake of consuming and making money at the world's expense, and at our soldiers' and their families expense, we are not a free country in my opinion.
As a nation, as a government, we had just better watch it. What goes up must eventually come down. We've seen this through and by 9/11
If my "freedom" here is at someone else's expense, than I am not free. In my opinion none of us are.
Oh, and yes, the Dixie Chicks have freedom of speech, no?, even if abroad. Banning their music here clearly exemplifies my point.
How free are we really?
I suppose we must individually answer this question for ourselves.
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| Jan 30, 2006 @ 11:10 PM |
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stgrizzvi
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I believe that anyone anywhere has the freedom to say what they want. The only thing is, there may be consequences. You speak against the present American administration and you are labled un-American by the president, when in actualality it is the American way to question authority. In some countries, you can be put to death by exercising that freedom, non the less, you can say what you want and act like you want anywhere and anytime. Remember Tianiman square and the brave Chinese student who stopped the advance of the Chinese military by simply standing his ground? He was expressing his belief in personel freedom. I don't really remember the results, but I think he went to prison for his belief system, but was released because of world opinion. That was truely a brave act. It was a good example of standing up for what you beieve in too.
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| Jan 30, 2006 @ 11:14 PM |
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sirdidymus
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Hey Angel,
thanks for your insight. I am the first to confess that i am far from politically saavy and with the depth of your opinion - i imagine that you're priivy to knowledge that helps to substantiate your strong feelings on the matter. I guess "freedom" is like anything else - it's a perception. It may not be freedom in the extent of total unexacerbated (sp.?) freedom - but compared to other regions - the freedoms we have in this country would seem to be beyond compare.
I certainly wouldn't disagree with anything that you've written, i've so heard many things, from so many different sides - that i don't know what to believe and when to separate fact from personal opinions.
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| Jan 30, 2006 @ 11:31 PM |
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Greystone1
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Oh, and yes, the Dixie Chicks have freedom of speech, no?, even if abroad. Banning their music here clearly exemplifies my point.
Actually, it doesn't because their music was not banned. Radio stations decided not to play their music, which is their right. If you own a radio station, you can play or not play whatever music you want, for whatever reason, or no reason at all.
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| Jan 31, 2006 @ 9:29 PM |
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bryan2992
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the whole controversy wasnt what they said it was where they said it. If you have any and I do mean ANY respect for your country, you dont go abroad and Bad mouth the LEGALLY elected leader. you do it to your friends your family or to the media when you get home.
It was done in bad taste, bad timing, bad form, and for the record LISTENERS black balled the music not the goverment. and the last time I checked their was a freedom to listen to what you wanted as well as speak it.
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| Jan 31, 2006 @ 10:33 PM |
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JSP51N
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The Dixie Chicks and Tobey Keith still are fighting. The lead singer has a shirt that as F U T on it. She waer it at a award show for country music.
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| Feb 1, 2006 @ 3:50 PM |
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vicryder
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I just thought I would mention that it wasn't the government that gave the Chicks a hard time. Harken back to k.d.lang's peta statements or whatever that was she did. If your your fan base is conservative middle America, don't piss them off. 
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| Feb 1, 2006 @ 8:24 PM |
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kattsmeow
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I like the Dixie Chicks and never did stop listening to them.
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| Feb 2, 2006 @ 9:46 PM |
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stgrizzvi
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What does FUT mean? I am not to familiar with these newer country singers like the Dixie Chicks. For country music I like Waylon, Willy, Johnny Cash, Merl, Hank Sr. and Jr., Earnest Tubbs. Most of the newer ones sound to phoney. Certainly not all, but many. Some of Garth Brookes isn't to bad.
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| Feb 2, 2006 @ 10:58 PM |
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Hooks
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From a musicians point of view. We have had musicians who sang about the unrest in the world, and people that are their fans go to listen to them for that. The Dixie Chicks are not one of them! Anyone who takes to the stage and starts inflecting their political views on an audience that has spent their hard earned money to come see them play their music, compromises the integrity of their music and of their fans! I don't know about you, but if I spent $50 to go see a musical concert and the guys came on stage and started that kind of stuff up, I'd be at the ticket counter getting my money back! They can say anything they want on their own time, but when you hit the stage you are on the people that paid you to play's time! I go to a concert for the music! 
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| Feb 3, 2006 @ 5:49 AM |
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alantc
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Country music????? Listening to people moan about their girlfriend leaving them, wife running off with the best friend and various other depressing subjects. Would anyone care what their political opinion was?
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| Feb 9, 2006 @ 8:44 PM |
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moonstarr
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Although at one point I really enjoyed some of the Dixie Chicks music, I don't really remember a ton about this issue - but I do recall hearing about it. It's really hard to make a fair opinion without knowing exactly what was said. However, generally speaking, if they were voicing an opinion, even about someone like the President, they have the right to do so, especially if the way they voiced it was polite. What I find funny is if they had expressed a derogatory opinion about someone who had no power - no one would have cared! Yet just because this person is in a prestigious position half the country got all bent out of shape.
@angellight
This is not a free country, it only appears that way on the surface but if we dig a little deeper it is illusion
Your freedom of speech is only good until what you say starts rocking the social and political foundations
--I agree. Thank goodness someone finally said it.
Now, I know some may say "Well if you dont like it leave"....
It's true I've heard that saying a million times in my life about one thing or another, as I'm sure many people have. But honestly, who wants to uproot their home, families, and move away from places fond to their memory to get away from some practices that are not fair? No matter where a person goes, there will be something going on a person does not see as correct ...
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| Feb 9, 2006 @ 9:05 PM |
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Curze
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Some country band.. you know you can always use google when you're not sure about things. Easier then asking people, faster as well 
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| Feb 9, 2006 @ 9:13 PM |
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irish20835
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Food for thought
Dixie Chicks claim to be country ..so think of who their audiunce is . They insult Bush ( who i voted for twice) .where is Bush from? Texas...where there are more country stations then any other genre of music.
How would i be treated if I got up during a REM concert and said democrat enviromentlist hippie vegans are stupid. id be booed off the stage and probably need security to take me out .
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| Feb 9, 2006 @ 9:45 PM |
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suzieq0808
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I applaude these artists to have the courage to say get their message out, because they can use their power (popularity) to do so.
YES!!!! 
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| Jun 19, 2006 @ 11:40 AM |
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RareQuestor
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I see that the Dixie Chicks recently made the cover of TIME magazine again. The article was rather vague, but I get the impression that I was supposed to be impressed that they are risking potential profits by speaking out against Bush. I would be much more impressed if they were in Iraq or Afghanistan or another third world country trying to make a difference. Anybody can criticize: It takes real courage to risk life and limb to change something or solve a problem. 
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| Jun 19, 2006 @ 11:45 AM |
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| Jun 19, 2006 @ 12:07 PM |
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