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Feb 12, 2012 @ 4:19 PM Whitney Houston, Dead at 48!    

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Feb 12, 2012 @ 4:19 PM Whitney Houston, Dead at 48!    

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And now.... After gallows enlightened contribution...

Back to the topic.
Whitney Houston, Dead at 48!

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Feb 12, 2012 @ 4:23 PM Whitney Houston, Dead at 48!    

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So what else is new.......utterly predictable.

Evaluating a human being should not be about their talents and abilities, but rather, the choices they make in their every day life...

Agreed, a persons value is much more than their " talents and abilities", although for most of us, that is how we knew her.

As for "utterly predictable', it is not as though her extended family of loved ones didn't care or try to get her off drugs.
I know they tried several interventions.

If this shows us anything, it shows how drugs destroy...and also how stardom and our nations obsession with becoming rich and famous is not the panacea most believe.
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Feb 12, 2012 @ 4:30 PM Whitney Houston, Dead at 48!    

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The song that started it all

I'm going to miss her.
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Feb 12, 2012 @ 5:22 PM Whitney Houston, Dead at 48!    

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I think just about everybody will Blue. She was a rare talent, and her life was such a mix of tragedy and a variety of abuses, combined with overwhelming success.

Hopefully she's in a better place now, where she'll be at peace.

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Feb 12, 2012 @ 5:54 PM Whitney Houston, Dead at 48!    

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really suthn... your bias is showing...

it sounds to me like she died from a mix of alcohol and prescription drugs... passed out in the tub and drowned... but I will not know anything until the coroner gives his report...

judy garland... was much more talented..... but shared the same ending... (used abused and eaten up by the fame..)

but in the meantime..
One of my favorite songs....

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Feb 12, 2012 @ 7:03 PM Whitney Houston, Dead at 48!    

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Whitney Houston - America the Beautiful

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Feb 12, 2012 @ 7:44 PM Whitney Houston, Dead at 48!    

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the pic looked like a hurried leg shaving job with a new razor
the thing is a voice that will always be golden * even if the years of abuse drugs and otherwise.. is now silenced forever........." the greatest love of all" RIP whitney
this made me cry...... thanks lucy8
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Feb 12, 2012 @ 8:48 PM Whitney Houston, Dead at 48!    

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Angel I'm not sure what you mean by a placebo. Xanax is a very powerful anti-anxiety drug, and very addicting.

Yes, I know this...I work in medicine.

Anxiety and Panic Disorders alike, are not diseases. Benzodiazepines are a placebo treatment to Anxiety and Panic Disorders and given to "curb" the effects of both on a temporary or intermentent treatment plan by the physician. They are given to "help" the patient to relax so they can sleep, eat, etc. Xanex is not a curing drug nor is it a preventive drug. Prolong use is not a recommended treatment plan for Xanax, although some patients that have minor to zero side effects can take it on a daily basis.

This drug "can" become an addiction if the patient does not adhere to the dosage perscribed by their physician and do not take other recommended therapeutic treatments to overcome their Anxiety and Panic Disorders.

The drug takes a whole different turn when other strong substances are taken like alcohol or othe benzodiazepines are taken as well as recreational drugs such as heroin or LSD.

On the illegal market Xanax becomes a ticking time bomb waiting to go off. It's one of the top illegally street purchased drugs for victimized date rapes and to calm the very highs of dangerous recreational drug used by addicts.

I hope I expained Placebo treatment to your understanding in layman terms.

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Feb 12, 2012 @ 9:14 PM Whitney Houston, Dead at 48!    

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A placebo is a simulated or otherwise medically ineffectual treatment for a disease or other medical condition intended to deceive the recipient. Sometimes patients given a placebo treatment will have a perceived or actual improvement in a medical condition, a phenomenon commonly called the placebo effect.


a. A substance containing no medication and prescribed or given to reinforce a patient's expectation to get well.
b. An inactive substance or preparation used as a control in an experiment or test to determine the effectiveness of a medicinal drug.
2. Something of no intrinsic remedial value that is used to appease or reassure another.

Look here

What is Xanax?

Xanax (alprazolam) belongs to a group of drugs called benzodiazepines. It works by slowing down the movement of chemicals in the brain that may become unbalanced. This results in a reduction in nervous tension (anxiety).

Xanax is used to treat anxiety disorders, panic disorders, and anxiety caused by depression.

Xanax may also be used for purposes not listed in this medication guide.

And here

(trade name Xanax, available among other generic names) is a short-acting anxiolytic of the benzodiazepine class of psychoactive drugs. Alprazolam, like other benzodiazepines, binds to specific sites on the GABAA gamma-amino-butyric acid receptor. Alprazolam is commonly used and FDA approved for the treatment of panic disorder, and anxiety disorders, such as generalized anxiety disorder (GAD) or social anxiety disorder (SAD).[3][4] Alprazolam is available for oral administration in compressed tablet (CT) and extended-release capsule (XR) formulations. Alprazolam possesses anxiolytic, sedative, hypnotic, skeletal muscle relaxant, anticonvulsant, and amnestic properties.[5]

Not a placebo

Sorry, Whitney. I hope you have found peace at last.
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Feb 12, 2012 @ 9:52 PM Whitney Houston, Dead at 48!    

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Whitney Houston, Dead at 48!

This is a salute to a very talented artist, tragically lost to the world at a very young age.

Actually, this thread is about the death of Whitney Houston, and is not exclusively about tributes,to her memory without any other discussion at all; for instance, if her death turns out to be due to an overdose of illegal street drugs, that fact alone will diminish her substantial accolades by the offsetting negative valence of her automatic entry into the Celebrity Hall of Shame, for squandering her substantial talents and truncating all of her future years by trading in an act of ultimate compromise, a momentary unlawful thrill for life itself.

Other than awaiting the facts I make no unsubstantiated accusations whether or not if a current use of illegal drugs was a factor in her death at this point because I will await for the official autopsy and toxicology report to be publicly released by the L.A. County Coroner before linking her death to her history of illegal possession and use of street drugs. But since Whitney Houtan has had a history of that reprehensible conduct and has died under suspicious circumstances, it is more than fair to keep that door open in an unbiased mind until the facts are known, in like manner as every police department regards a gunshot death as a homicide and not a suicide, until a full investigation discovers the facts..

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Feb 12, 2012 @ 10:13 PM Whitney Houston, Dead at 48!    

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A post earlier from Angel:

Part of the investigation is in...there were NO recreational drugs found in her room. There was NO alcohol found in her room.

There has been reports of her being prescribed, not Xanax, but same thing with a different name, which is known to cause drowsiness. Pure speculation here, but, if she took her prescription, then decided to relax in a warm/hot bath, something that cause relaxation and drowsiness also, and she could have been tired already, it's not too far of a concept that she may have just fallen asleep in the tub.

Then again...she does have a history of drug and alcohol abuse. What's to say she didn't partake before going back to her room and taking that bath.

But, this goes to show...celebrities are human after all. Her death is tragic, and yes, she's made huge mistakes in her life, but still, that lady belted out some wonderful songs, and she had a beautiful voice. No one can deny that. Well, those who didn't like her or her music can I guess.
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Feb 12, 2012 @ 10:17 PM Whitney Houston, Dead at 48!    

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Part of the investigation is in...there were NO recreational drugs found in her room. There was NO alcohol found in her room.

This is not determinative, as her room could have been sanitized prior to the arrival of authorities.
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Feb 12, 2012 @ 10:35 PM Whitney Houston, Dead at 48!    

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You weren't there, I wasn't there, and to the best of my knowledge, no one here on this site was there that night. All we know at this point is what investigators have told the media.

And what I do know is that a very talented, yet troubled, woman is dead. Someone who had a beautiful voice, whose music I enjoyed, is gone. And it's tragic.
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Feb 12, 2012 @ 10:54 PM Whitney Houston, Dead at 48!    

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Im sick of people who say Whitney's death was a waste of life and her can anyone say she squandered her life when she attained the pre-eminent status as a singer that she did in her life...what she accomplished is so much more than most achieve that ever tried making it in the music industry...and all you here who are trying to diminish her, just know this...whenever you look up in the night sky, one of the brightest stars you will ever see up there is Whitney Houston...that beautiful woman sang with such infectious joy and enthusiasm she moved people to either sing along with her, dance, or cry...I have absoultly no doubt in my mind that she is now the lead singer in some heavenly choir
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Feb 12, 2012 @ 11:11 PM Whitney Houston, Dead at 48!    

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Very well said click.
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Feb 13, 2012 @ 12:43 AM Whitney Houston, Dead at 48!    

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The vast majority here are not picking her apart Click. Nor is that the intention of the thread. She was awesome in many many ways, and brought great joy to a number of people with her exceptional talent.

Whatever may have happened will come out in due time. But for now I hope we can just remember her kindly, and be thankful for what she brought to the human race, in the relatively short time she was with us.

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Feb 13, 2012 @ 1:01 AM Whitney Houston, Dead at 48!    

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Whitney was also an fact, she had just finished her shoots in the remake movie "Sparkle", which will be shown in on August 17th by Sony Corp.’s TriStar Pictures. The producer said there was no problems in making the film with Whitney. In this remake, she was also executive producer for the sound track and sings the song the gospel song “Eyes on the Sparrow”.

Whitney also was not alone in her motel room, her hair stylist and her 2 body guards were there. When they felt she was in the bathroom way too long, one of her body guards discovered her faced down with her legs bent upward in a full tub of water. She was getting ready for her performance at the Clive Davis pre-Grammy Awards party. Her own Mother had just spoken to her 20 minutes on the phone before she went to take a bath and her cousin Dionne Warwick spoke to her a while before that as they were discussing as where they were going to be seated at the Grammy Awards event.

The autopsy was completed Sunday morning, but the Coroner will not present the outcome until the toxicology report is in, which takes 6-8 weeks.

[Edited on 2/13/2012 1:32 AM]
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Feb 13, 2012 @ 12:57 PM Whitney Houston, Dead at 48!    

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.how can anyone say she squandered her life

Perhaps had she not had a public history of illegal possession and use of street drugs or died suddenly in a Hotel there wouldn't be those among the general public awaiting her toxicology report to be made public before we start canonizing and idolizing her as someone the youth should emulate.

Gifted people have talent, but if they crawl into the gutter they lose their luster somewhat.

At this point I am making no accusations other than to say Hollywood is Hollywood and those people are NO ONE to canonize or idolize due to their extravagant and illegal or deviant lifestyles. A member of the Hollywood elite is prone to be suspect by the moral majority unless and until they differentiate themselves from the hedonistic and out of control others. There is nothing so commonplace and ordinary than a Hollywood luminary lying dead before their time with the proximate cause of death being his or her illegal, antisocial, or deviate lifestyle choices.

That is why so many Hollywood types are Charter Members of the Celebrity Hall of Shame.

We don;t know why Whitney Houston died in that Hotel yet; but we do know why John Bulushi, River Phoenix, and Rock Hudson died and the proximate cause of these luminaries deaths was a personal lifestyle choice that introduced them to the Grim Reaper.

Sure Whitney had talent. So did John Lenon, Yet their illustrious careers were marred by illegal drug use. That is the shame. They were called to be much better than that the instant that they became icons unto others, especially the youth..

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Feb 13, 2012 @ 1:50 PM Whitney Houston, Dead at 48!    

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Consider that many of these people have talent and wish to pursue their dreams and don't realize the pressures they'll endure as a result of their sometimes overwhelming success. It's far too easy to judge from a computer chair and wearing slippers, while not having an idea of how another's shoes would change their perceptions. There's a long list of entertainers who ran a similar course, and I have to believe that there's a common denominator.

I think Ms. Houston was an amazing talent and I'll remember her for her best efforts.
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