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Mar 12, 2012 @ 3:13 PM Bill introduced to regulate men's reproductive health Part of a trend, she liken    
kattsmeow


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COLUMBUS – Before getting a prescription for Viagra or other erectile dysfunction drugs, men would have to see a sex therapist, receive a cardiac stress test and get a notarized affidavit signed by a sexual partner affirming impotency, if state Sen. Nina Turner has her way.
The Cleveland Democrat introduced Senate Bill 307 this week.


Oh no, a Democrat???????????????????

http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/dayton-news/bill-introduced-to-regulate-mens-reproductive-health-1341547.html
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Mar 12, 2012 @ 3:34 PM Bill introduced to regulate men's reproductive health Part of a trend, she liken    
Gallows_Humor


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... oh no... she is also a woman....


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Bill introduced to regulate men's reproductive health
Part of a trend, she likens the bill to men legislating ‘a woman’s womb.’


thinking that you got the gist of it Katt...
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Mar 12, 2012 @ 3:40 PM Bill introduced to regulate men's reproductive health Part of a trend, she liken    
kattsmeow


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I find it so well, silly that anyone other than a Dr., and a patient should worry about what we do to our bodies.

I know that in order for men to get this pill, they do go through so tests to make sure they can take it. The Doctors have to do this because they can be sued at the drop of a dime any more.
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Mar 12, 2012 @ 3:42 PM Bill introduced to regulate men's reproductive health Part of a trend, she liken    
Angel54214


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This was a trick! The bill has nothing to do with Viagra!

It's see how many vote for the bill without reading it first...






Just kidding!

Here's the bill:
http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/bills.cfm?ID=129_SB_307
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Mar 12, 2012 @ 3:51 PM Bill introduced to regulate men's reproductive health Part of a trend, she liken    
Gallows_Humor


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actually this bill will never come up for a vote...


COLUMBUS – Before getting a prescription for Viagra or other erectile dysfunction drugs, men would have to see a sex therapist, receive a cardiac stress test and get a notarized affidavit signed by a sexual partner affirming impotency, if state Sen. Nina Turner has her way.

The Cleveland Democrat introduced Senate Bill 307 this week....

Under Senate Bill 307, men taking the drugs would continue to be tested for heart problems, receive counseling about possible side effects and receive information about “pursuing celibacy as a viable lifestyle choice.”

but the heartbeat bill just might....

The Heartbeat bill would prohibit abortion once a heartbeat is detected, as early as six weeks into a pregnancy.

“I understand some women think my bill is a personal affront,” Wachtmann said. “Protecting the unborn
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Mar 12, 2012 @ 3:56 PM Bill introduced to regulate men's reproductive health Part of a trend, she liken    
Gallows_Humor


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btw... this is all about Ohio state law... not federal law....
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Mar 12, 2012 @ 4:04 PM Bill introduced to regulate men's reproductive health Part of a trend, she liken    
bluewind37


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This is about as silly as the Wisconsin senator wanting to introduce a bill saying that being a single parent contributes to abuse of kids.

Senator Grotham of Wisconsin

S.B. 507 reads:

Section 1. 48.982 (2) (g) 2. of the statutes is amended to read: 48.982 (2) (g) 2. Promote statewide educational and public awareness campaigns and materials for the purpose of developing public awareness of the problems of child abuse and neglect. In promoting those campaigns and materials, the board shall emphasize nonmarital parenthood as a contributing factor to child abuse and neglect.

Section 2. 48.982 (2) (g) 4. of the statutes is amended to read: 48.982 (2) (g) 4. Disseminate information about the problems of and methods of preventing child abuse and neglect to the public and to organizations concerned with those problems. In disseminating that information, the board shall emphasize nonmarital parenthood as a contributing factor to child abuse and neglect.

I know of a few single mothers whose children are doing just fine. Getting good grades in school, on school athletic teams, don't smoke, don't do drugs, have close friends....and are happy kids. Granted, I know there are horror stories of children abused and/or killed by a parents latest boyfriend/girlfriend, but, biological parents can snap and cause harm to their kids also.

I just think law makers need to stay out of the home and focus on public policies.
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Mar 12, 2012 @ 4:57 PM Bill introduced to regulate men's reproductive health Part of a trend, she liken    
Suthn_Man


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What won't they think of next!?!?

Well, they have to produce new laws to justify their existence.
We'll just have to pass this one too, to see what all is in it.


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Mar 12, 2012 @ 5:04 PM Bill introduced to regulate men's reproductive health Part of a trend, she liken    
burnslikethesun


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so its a joke when the law is to regulate men's reproductive health??

And when it's women it's a serious law that should be passed and vigorously so.

To me, THATS the joke.

What won't they think of next!?!?
Wait. Really? I mean really?
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Mar 12, 2012 @ 6:22 PM Bill introduced to regulate men's reproductive health Part of a trend, she liken    
kattsmeow


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It is NOT a joke. No one in our government should have a say over our bodies.

I might not believe in abortions, but I also don't agree with the government telling me what I can do with my own body.

They need to stay out of our lives.
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Mar 12, 2012 @ 7:13 PM Bill introduced to regulate men's reproductive health Part of a trend, she liken    
Suthn_Man


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No, its not a joke..

But its just silly beyond all belief..
Another example of lawmakers who have nothing better to do.
So they figure they'd better crank out some new laws.

I hope it doesn't have a prayer of passing though.

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Mar 12, 2012 @ 8:26 PM Bill introduced to regulate men's reproductive health Part of a trend, she liken    
SweetNapaGuy


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Too many men have trouble with the old engine, and have been led to believe that a little Viagra will solve their problem. But what if the problem isn't something that Viagra can solve? Or what if Viagra would cause more problems?

Recently, in response to the forcible-rape bill put through the Virginia state legislature, a Democratic woman put forth an amendment that any man wanting Viagra would have to get a cardiac stress test and a prostate exam. Both of them very valid concerns. Viagra allows erections by increasing blood pressure--good not just for erectile dysfunction, but any problem that involves low blood pressure--but such a thing isn't a good thing with someone with cardiac diseases, for instance, or someone with already-high blood pressure.

Likewise, the prostate exam could find the underlying causes of the erectile dysfunction. It's not necessarily the ONLY possible test to use, but it's better to eliminate as many possible causes before resorting to masking the symptoms and ignoring the problem.

Strangely enough, when it came to politicians dictating reproductive choices, it was strongly opposed by the Republicans, even though these tests ARE medically/clinically valid.
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Mar 12, 2012 @ 8:39 PM Bill introduced to regulate men's reproductive health Part of a trend, she liken    
bluewind37


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I might not believe in abortions, but I also don't agree with the government telling me what I can do with my own body.

They need to stay out of our lives.

Well said Katt!
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Mar 12, 2012 @ 8:52 PM Bill introduced to regulate men's reproductive health Part of a trend, she liken    
Angel54214


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Hasn't anyone noticed the State Battle Ground lately? State governments have started literally an all out war against abortion laws! That's right...

Just type in and google...Anti-Abortion and you will see all the states government setting up bills and amendments for protest. Missouri, Virginia, Illinois, Kansas, Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, Alabama, Oaklahoma, Minnesota, Idaho, and now Ohio as well as the House of Representative of Congress and the Senate.

Some of the states have up to 4 Anti-Abortion bills currently in legislature.

Also take notice of women rights groups have been on the battle ground in protests.

I don't want to give everything away at this point, but want to leave something opened for those that do research, to find the information and the cause.

Added 6 more anti-abortion states that have bills in legislature...


[Edited on 3/12/2012 9:44 PM]
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Mar 12, 2012 @ 8:59 PM Bill introduced to regulate men's reproductive health Part of a trend, she liken    
DiamondRain


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You know there is no country in the world where women have more freedom and rights then the United States of America.

On the other hand, Obama's new freedom loving "Arab Spring" government in Egypt today admitted that it was indeed going door to door giving women who protested for womens' rights forced virginity tests administered by male doctors.

Yet, curiously, not a word from the likes of Hillary Clinton, Gloria Steinem, Jane Fonda or Gloria Allred who seem to only be interested in womens' rights if they can use it to gin up phony political points in places where it isn't even at issue.

For that matter, not a word from Obama either. What a surprise since he is the cause of the new crackdown on women in Egypt and throughout the region. If not for his policies, encouragement and explicit support this would never have happened to these women. He sure was vocal about the situation when he was making it happen. And he sure is silent about it now.

[Edited on 3/12/2012 9:13 PM]
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Mar 12, 2012 @ 9:02 PM Bill introduced to regulate men's reproductive health Part of a trend, she liken    
lazareth


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I might not believe in abortions, but I also don't agree with the government telling me what I can do with my own body.

They need to stay out of our lives.

Well said Katt!


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Mar 12, 2012 @ 9:14 PM Bill introduced to regulate men's reproductive health Part of a trend, she liken    
Angel54214


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Here's the one for Minnesota...

Remember all the talk about the MNGOP staying focused on job creation? Well, instead of that, Republican lawmakers continue to devote their energies to making it more difficult for women to get abortions.

Yesterday, a divided Senate committee passed two anti-abortion measures -- one that would require the physical presence of a doctor when an abortion is performed, and another that would require licenses and random inspections for clinics that provide abortions.

With regard to the physical presence measure, Sen. Dan Hall, R-Burnsville, said "I think it's too easy to give the permission without being there yourself to see what's been done, and what you're doing."

Opponents of the bill say the abortion-inducing drug, RU-486, is associated with fewer patient deaths than Tylenol or Viagra, nullifying any argument that the bill is about protecting women's health. According to the Pioneer Press, in 2010, drug-induced abortions accounted for 2,378 of the 11,550 abortions in the state.

Last year, Planned Parenthood introduced a program where doctors at its St. Paul clinic videoconference with counsel patients in Rochester about medication abortions. Abortion-inducing drugs are dispensed to patients from a locked safe in the Rochester exam room that the physician opens remotely. The physical presence bill would outlaw this program.

Citing RU-486's relatively low risk, Sen. John Marty, D-Roseville, said "when someone comes in with a bill that says you've got to have a physician physically present for taking Viagra, then I'll take this bill seriously." The bill was introduced by Sen. Paul Gazelka, R-Brainerd.

The licensing and inspection bill, introduced by Sen. Clair Robling, R-Jordan, extends the same degree of oversight currently applied to businesses like game farms and nursing homes to abortion-providing clinics.

Robling said "there's licensing and inspections for numerous areas of operation that we have throughout the state, so when I become aware that this was not happening with these clinics, I thought it would be appropriate."

Proponents of Robling's bill say the criminal charges resulting from a Philadelphia clinic called a "house of horrors" by prosecutors demonstrates the need for more stringent oversight of abortion-providing clinics, but a spokesman from the Minnesota Department of Health expressed concern about the expense of designing rules and allotting staff for the licensing and inspection procedures. In a move Republicans presumably hope will reduce the number of Minnesota clinics offering abortions, the cost of licensing and inspection would be passed along to the clinics themselves.

The bills are now headed to the full Senate. Even if they pass the GOP-controlled Senate and House, the bills almost certainly face a veto from Gov. Dayton, who vetoed several abortion-restricting bills during last year's legislative session.

http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2012/02/minnesota_senate_committee_passes_two_anti-abortion_bills.php
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Mar 12, 2012 @ 9:27 PM Bill introduced to regulate men's reproductive health Part of a trend, she liken    
Angel54214


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How about this one in Georgia!

Georgia Rep. Fights Anti-Abortion Bill with ‘Anti-Vasectomy Act’
February 24 2012

Georgia State Rep. Yasmin Neal has introduced House Bill 1116 that proposes limiting vasectomies for men, except in cases where not getting one would result in death or “impairment of a major bodily function.”

The anti-vasectomy bill was a response to a bill that would punish abortions performed after the 20th week of pregnancy with prison sentences between one and 10 years.

“The day has come where men should feel the same pressure and invasion of privacy that women have faced for years,” Yasmin said a statement.

“I have introduced this legislation because it is the purpose of the General Assembly to assert an invasive state interest in the reproductive habits of the men of this state and substitute the will of the government over the will of adult men.”

“This bill states that vasectomies can be performed to avert the death of a man or to avert serious risk of substantial or irreversible physical impairment of a major bodily function of the man. This bill mimics the abortion bills throughout the nation, and just like the abortion bills interfere with a woman’s right to choose, it’s only fair that the General Assembly debate the men’s right to choose, as well.”

http://colorlines.com/archives/2012/02/georgia_rep_fights_anti-abortion_bill_with_anti-vasectomy_act.html
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Mar 12, 2012 @ 9:36 PM Bill introduced to regulate men's reproductive health Part of a trend, she liken    
Angel54214


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And here's the one on OHIO:

Third female lawmaker introduces bill to limit men’s Viagra access
3 hrs ago

Democratic Ohio state Sen. Nina Turner is the third female lawmaker to introduce a bill that would limit men's access to Viagra and other erectile dysfunction drugs to make a statement about the dozens of anti-abortion bills that have passed statehouses around the country over the last year.

Turner is opposed to a proposed bill that would prohibit abortion after a fetal heartbeat is detected, which can happen as early as six weeks into a pregnancy. The Dayton Daily News reports that Turner's bill would mandate that men seeking Viagra be "tested for heart problems, receive counseling about possible side effects and receive information about 'pursuing celibacy as a viable lifestyle choice.'"

Turner said on MSNBC Monday that the bill is about showing "men as much love in the reproductive health arena as they have shown us over the years. My Senate Bill 307 is all about the love and making sure we look out for men's sexual health."

Rep. Lynn Wachtmann, the heartbeat bill's sponsor, told the Dayton Daily News that the comparison between Viagra and abortions isn't valid.

Turner is one of several female Democratic state lawmakers who are wielding the power of sarcasm to protest a wave of anti-abortion legislation.

In January, Virginia state Sen. Janet Howell introduced an amendment to the state's controversial ultrasound bill, which required women seeking abortions to first undergo a vaginal ultrasound. The amendment, which failed, said that all men seeking Viagra would have to first get a rectal exam. The ultrasound bill passed after Republican Gov. Bob McDonnell successfully requested that the vaginal ultrasound requirement be removed. Women seeking abortions will still have to receive an external ultrasound under the new bill.

Earlier this month, Illinois state Rep. Kelly Cassidy introduced an amendment to another bill that would require women to get ultrasounds before being allowed to get abortions. The amendment mandated that men seeking Viagra watch a graphic video about the drug's potential side effects. "If they are serious about us not being able to make our own health care decisions, then I'm just as serious about them not being able to make theirs," she said.

Missouri state Rep. Stacey Newman, a Democrat, introduced legislation that would allow men to get vasectomies only if their life depended upon the procedure, which was similar to Georgia state Rep. Yasmin Neal's bill. "In determining whether a vasectomy is necessary, no regard shall be made to the desire of a man to father children, his economic situation, his age, the number of children he is currently responsible for, or any danger to his wife or partner in the event a child is conceived," the tongue-in-cheek Missouri bill reads.

According to the abortion rights group the Guttmacher Institute, a record-breaking 92 new abortion-restricting laws were passed in 2011. Two of those laws mandated that women have ultrasounds and look at the images before being allowed to get an abortion.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/third-female-lawmaker-introduces-bill-limit-men-viagra-204340160.html
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Mar 13, 2012 @ 1:22 AM Bill introduced to regulate men's reproductive health Part of a trend, she liken    
kattsmeow


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going door to door giving women who protested for womens' rights forced virginity tests administered by male doctors.

I heard this today. Only a bit though.
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