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Mar 26, 2012 @ 3:16 PM a fool with a gun....    
SensualGemini


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GH: or blame Obama for everything...
do you feel better about it now SG ??

....Your comprehension skills have not improved, as I defend Obama when it is warranted (go check the gasoline thread that you lack the intellect to participate).

....So, cease with your hypocrisy, as you are the one attacking the poster.






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Mar 26, 2012 @ 3:18 PM a fool with a gun....    
Gallows_Humor


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what does Obama have to do with this thread?


and btw..

(go check the gasoline thread that you lack the intellect to participate).

....So, cease with your hypocrisy, as you are the one attacking the poster.
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Mar 26, 2012 @ 3:20 PM a fool with a gun....    
Dillweed


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Just popping in to say Hi SG!


Believe it or not, I hoped for your return. Welcome back.
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Mar 26, 2012 @ 3:51 PM a fool with a gun....    
SensualGemini


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GH: what does Obama have to do with this thread?

Hint: US Justice Department and Obama's speech that included, "You know, if I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon."

This is not the first time Obama has personally jumped on the race bandwagon as already noted.

Hint Obama controls the US Justice Department and the FBI that gave this case priority as long as Zimmerman was deemed white and the young adult (not the 4 year old picture being passed around and on a 10 day suspension from a Miami school) was black.

Hint: Where is Obama and the Justice Department with the Black Panthers inciting the kidnapping of Zimmerman? Under the Patriot Act, the Black Panthers are now declared terrorists.

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Mar 26, 2012 @ 3:52 PM a fool with a gun....    
SensualGemini


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Dilly: Just popping in to say Hi SG!

Hi Dilly! .... You have been quiet and hope it is because you are busy having a great life!



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Mar 26, 2012 @ 3:59 PM a fool with a gun....    
Angel54214


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This case is going to be a very tough call for the prosecutors. As more information has come out today, Martin was staying at the gated complex with his Father's fiance because he was kicked out of his school in Miami. He was found at his school with an empty bag of marajuana, which held the substance.

Martin's Father didn't report his son was missing until the next day, which Martin was laying in the morge. His Father thought Martin was staying with his cousin for the night. He didn't now his son was shot and killed. The morge had tagged Martin as "John Doe". Evidently the police didn't even go knock on doors to see if anyone knew this kid. The police also never checked Martin's cell phone to get any phone numbers to call anyone he knew.

Also Zimmerman's police statement says that Martin grabbed his gun after he had fought with Zimmerman; punched him the nose hard and knocked him to the ground. When the police showed up and were finished with their work, they took Zimmerman to the Hospital for medical care, then they drove him back to his truck in the gated complex. It is also noted in the the statement that Martin was 6 foot 3 weighing 150 lbs. Zimmerman is 5 foot 9 weighing 200 lbs.

The Florida state district attorney is investigating the incident along with investigating the police's involement. Prosecutors believe they will have prove beyon reasonable doubt that this was a "hate crime"...
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Mar 26, 2012 @ 5:33 PM a fool with a gun....    
SensualGemini


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Angel: It is also noted in the the statement that Martin was 6 foot 3 weighing 150 lbs.

...The police carry scales in their trunk to make their report? Trevor was not telling them.

...Nevertheless, Al Sharpton does have a point with black youths being far more predominant to grow up without a Father figure, as Daddy was no where to be found and this young man was no model student.

....A shame really... as under different circumstances and "if I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon", maybe he could have even played B-ball or golf with Obama.

....Nevertheless, the Feds will quietly back out now that Zimmerman is Hispanic, it was "punk" rather than "coon", Mr. Treyvon was not exactly the model student/young man portrayed, etc.

....Now, about those terrorists, the Black Panthers? Let's hear a little outcry, a little equal time from the anti-KKK, anti-White Supremest group.

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Mar 26, 2012 @ 11:19 PM a fool with a gun....    
Angel54214


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...The police carry scales in their trunk to make their report? Trevor was not telling them.
Now I know your kidding around!

Actually Trayvon's height is 6' and weight 160 lbs. That part of the report was filled in on 02.27.12. The Police Dept. nor the Medical Examinor knew the identity of the juvenile until that date after the Police received a call from his dad Tracey reporting his son missing. The Police arrived at his home with a photo of his son at the Medical Examinor's office laying on a slab in the morgue for him to idenify.

A paramedic pronounced the juvenile deceased at 1930 hours on 02.26.12.

George Zimmerman was subdued by Officer Timothy Smith and put into handcuffs; a black Kel-Tek 9mm PFP semi-automatic handgun and the holster was removed from Zimmerman's waiste band. He was then placed into the police car. Zimmerman never told Smith he shot in self defense, but only that he shot him. The only other statement Zimmerman made to Smith was..."I was yelling for someone to help me, but no one would help me". At no point during the whole time Smith was there, did he question Zimmerman on the incident. Smith took him to the Police station where he was interviewed by an investigator.

Yes I've read the "Offense Police Report".

Which it states the Offense:
Homocide-Negligance
Manslaughter-Unnecessary Killing To
Prevent Unlawful Act
(Fl. Code: 782.11)




[Edited on 3/26/2012 11:27 PM]
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Mar 26, 2012 @ 11:33 PM a fool with a gun....    
Suthn_Man


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Seems MSNBC has reached a new low, since Keith Olbermann, Chris Matthews, and Big Ed!

Turns out Al Sharpton has his own show there now, where he is the host.
He took the whole show with him to Florida for the rally and for the hateful demonstration of the Black Panthers demanding access to Zimmerman, who with his broken nose and head lacerations from getting beat up by some unidentified person in a hoody, has yet to be officially arrested or proven guilty of anything!

That's astonishing!

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Mar 27, 2012 @ 12:04 AM a fool with a gun....    
Gallows_Humor


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how about a link??


btw.. this you might find interesting...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Byxd-sVhDz4

it is about 3 minutes long... and was not spun....

there is no dead or alive wanted poster...
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Mar 27, 2012 @ 12:24 AM a fool with a gun....    
Suthn_Man


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A link to what?


Zimmerman reportedly (by eye-witness) DID go to his car when they told him they didn't need him to follow the guy. He said "Ok". Then (by eye-witness and his own testimony) he was attacked from behind and beaten up. This guy was much bigger than Zimmerman. And Zimmerman was injured.

There was nobody else around to establish anything other than that. That doesn't say its absolute, but it says that's the best information we have so far. 2 witnesses to 0...

See? It helps a great deal to have some information before we go rushing to judgement, acting out in mob fashion, and calling it something it apparently turns out not to be.

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Mar 27, 2012 @ 12:51 AM a fool with a gun....    
Angel54214


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Hashim Nzinga was arrested today...

http://stonemountain.patch.com/articles/new-black-panther-party-leader-arrested
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Mar 27, 2012 @ 12:53 AM a fool with a gun....    
SensualGemini


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Angel: Now I know your kidding around!

...Ya think! .... uhm, most of the time.


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Suthn: Turns out Al Sharpton has his own show there now, where he is the host.

....I heard ol Al Sharpton has an office in the White House.

....Nevertheless, he has an 'interesting' group of followers:

Al Sharpton has White House on Speed Dial....


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Mar 27, 2012 @ 1:59 AM a fool with a gun....    
Angel54214


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The 911 Zimmerman call tape has been sent to the FBI Headquarters in Washington for analysis to determine if Zimmerman uttered racial slurs. They have the technology to isolate audio sounds and enhance others.

They will turn over their findings to the U.S. Justice Department and Florida State Prosecutors, then they will determine if any criminal charges are going to be filed against Zimmerman.

The State Prosecutors do need a strong crime charge in order to even bring this to a Grand Jury. "Hate Crime" charges would be what is needed to make this a case in a court of law.

We should be informed of the decision by the end of this week. So we all have to just hang in there and see...
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Mar 27, 2012 @ 2:15 AM a fool with a gun....    
Suthn_Man


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Hashim Nzinga was arrested today...

Interesting. Totally unrelated to the mob behavior at Sharpton's rally though. And the threat of, at least, kidnapping, along with obstruction of justice, + interfering in an official investigation.

However, at least that's some progress.

The 911 Zimmerman call tape has been sent to the FBI Headquarters in Washington for analysis to determine if Zimmerman uttered racial slurs. They have the technology to isolate audio sounds and enhance others.

They will turn over their findings to the U.S. Justice Department

Hmmmmmm.....

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Mar 27, 2012 @ 2:39 AM a fool with a gun....    
SensualGemini


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Angel: The State Prosecutors do need a strong crime charge in order to even bring this to a Grand Jury. "Hate Crime" charges would be what is needed to make this a case in a court of law.

...It is logical they would have to prove a crime was even committed, before they could add the hate part to it.

....A racial slur while being being beat on, may not be PC, but neither is it proof of guilt. Nevertheless, an audio expert already said it was not "coon" but rather "punk" that was not even really spoken out loud.

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Mar 27, 2012 @ 10:12 AM a fool with a gun....    
lj450


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it was not "coon" but rather "punk"

I saw the CNN audio expert playing this clip over and over last night, cleaning it up and suggesting over and over that he is saying "coon", never even once mentioning that it could say "punk".


Even with the power of suggestion, it never sounded like coon to me. He clearly says the word "punk" or "punks".


Regardless of what the "experts" say, when (or if) it goes to court, you could find just as many "experts" to say it sounds like something else. There is no way you could use that as trumped up evidence of a hate crime.

Zimmerman hated being attacked and hated having to use deadly force to protect himself. That is the only hate involved here.
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Mar 27, 2012 @ 10:30 AM a fool with a gun....    
violette1967


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I heard he called him spook....
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Mar 27, 2012 @ 10:37 AM a fool with a gun....    
alivenwell351


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The Duke soccer players...

Tawana Brawley...

Remember them??

Remember who was at the forefront perpetrating their racebaiting as absolute "hate crime" fact, when in fact the ultimate truth turned out to be the exact opposite?? (hint....begins with Al & ends with Jesse!!).....

SG...welcome back...

[Edited on 3/27/2012 10:37 AM]
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Mar 27, 2012 @ 10:37 AM a fool with a gun....    
Angel54214


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Nevertheless, an audio expert already said it was not "coon" but rather "punk" that was not even really spoken out loud.

From what I have read about this, the audio expert that WFTV in Florida that they hired, "believes" he heard the word punk not coon. This person has not come forward with the evidence nor is anything mentioned that he forwarded his enhanced audio version to the district attorney, sanford police, investigators, dept. of justice or the FBI.

If this audio expert's enhancement version is requested by the FBI and DoJ for comparison and/or subpoenaed to the Grand Jury in the April 10th hearing, then it will be taken seriously as not just being "believed" by one person's opinion.


Besides...the word "coon" does not insinuate a racial slur in this case because it's a short slang for Racoons and they are variegated (multi-colored) with white face and a black-brown mask. Although they do have a reputation for being thieves...

Even Coonhounds are in a variety of color combinations and markings....

But what gave me the shivers the most was listening to that 911 call of the screaming in the background before the shot was fired. You can tell there was physical contact between the two for sure.


[Edited on 3/27/2012 10:42 AM]
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