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Jun 20, 2012 @ 12:11 PM Obama's "Executive Privilege" Stonewalls US House Fast & Furious Investigation    
Paralegal_at_Law


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Obama defies US House Subpoena as Attorney General dangles under contempt citation

With the specter of sharing the legacy of Richard M. Nixon's downfall in a parallel to the Congressional Watergate Investigation, the Impostor Obama has now claimed "Executive Privilege" with respect to disobeying the lawful subpoenas of the US House of Representatives relating to the Fast and Furious conspiracy which not only unlawfully transferred weapons to the Mexican Drug Cartels, but apparently also were implicitly implied acts of the President himself as being personally involved in the conspiracy under both Federal and also Arizona State Law, regarding illegally obtaining of the weapons that were used in the murder of US Border Patrol Agents.

Executive Privilege is a legal theory that when utilized, is an admission that brings the personal involvement of the US President with regard to either the unlawful Fast and Furious gun walking program, or its subsequent cover up.

Even the propaganda lapdog News Media of CNN and MSNBC broadcasters, just like FOX News, are all covering this explosive collision between the legislative and executive branches of the government of the United States. Caught in the crossfire, is US Attorney General Eric Holder, who has stonewalled US House subpoenas for documents so the US House can determine how high the Fast and Furious criminal conspiracy went, and whether or not the US President had personally involved himself before or after the fact, as a co-conspirator in the murder of two US Border Patrol Agents? The Attorney General may face a Contempt of Congress citation.

US House procedures, Speaker's Duty, US Attorney to convene Grand Jury, potential criminal penalties

With high drama in an election year unfolding, Obama's Executive Privilege assertion undermines the Attorney General's sworn testimony before Congress, and also belies the Presidents appearance and statements on Univision, that the President had no personal knowledge of the Fast and Furious criminal conspiracy. Under the law, the White House cannot invoke Executive Privilege unless the President was personally involved in the matter.

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Jun 20, 2012 @ 12:43 PM Obama's "Executive Privilege" Stonewalls US House Fast & Furious Investigation    
techead


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It seems that Demorcatic presidents need to use Executive Privilege more so than Republican presdients have.

Here's a look at how many times each president since Ronald Reagan have asserted executive privilege:

President Barack Obama: 1

President George W. Bush: 6

President Bill Clinton: 14

President George H.W. Bush: 1

President Ronald Reagan: 3


[Edited on 6/20/2012 12:50 PM]
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Jun 20, 2012 @ 12:53 PM Obama's "Executive Privilege" Stonewalls US House Fast & Furious Investigation    
Suthn_Man


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Jun 20, 2012 @ 12:58 PM Obama's "Executive Privilege" Stonewalls US House Fast & Furious Investigation    
techead


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This is going to get uglier than the Health Care bill. If there is nothing to hide why invoke Executive Privilege?

If this was a family member of any of you here, that was killed by a botched gun control sting, wouldn't you want the Whole Truth about exactly what happened and why it got that far?

We are always looking for answers, and even go as far as saying what an answer should be but, this DOJ program failed to protect Mexican civilians, and a border agent from being killed. There has to be answers and accountability for this, it is the right thing to do.

So far by my count this administration has killed 2 American citizens in cold blood!

No one should be above the law.........NO ONE

POLITICAL COWARDS is all that can be said, and what a shame they are.

[Edited on 6/20/2012 1:04 PM]
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Jun 20, 2012 @ 1:09 PM Obama's "Executive Privilege" Stonewalls US House Fast & Furious Investigation    
alivenwell351


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This from an article I just read on this.....

from Yahoo...

The White House, in an email to reporters announcing the move, noted that Obama's Republican predecessor President George W. Bush had invoked executive privilege six times, and former President Bill Clinton relied on the doctrine 14 times. Republicans hit back by sending reporters a snippet from a March 2007 interview in which Obama condemned the Bush Administration's use of executive privilege "every time there's something a little shaky that's taking place" and urged that administration to "come clean."

Hell, Reagan didn't invoke executive privilege during Iran/Contra until someone from his administration was on trial and if I remember right, it was only about things they wanted from Reagan's personal diary. And even then, Reagan submitted to questioning.

I think the over/under for Bamasiah throwing Holder under the bus is about a week!!

I don't know. So much for the "openest administration in history" campaign promise. Seems the Bamasiah is trying his best to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory!!
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Jun 20, 2012 @ 1:26 PM Obama's "Executive Privilege" Stonewalls US House Fast & Furious Investigation    
techead


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The White House, in an email to reporters announcing the move, noted that Obama's Republican predecessor President George W. Bush had invoked executive privilege six times, and former President Bill Clinton relied on the doctrine 14 times. Republicans hit back by sending reporters a snippet from a March 2007 interview in which Obama condemned the Bush Administration's use of executive privilege "every time there's something a little shaky that's taking place" and urged that administration to "come clean."

Isn't it funny how the Democratic Party claims Republicans are flip flopper's and now finding out that Obama is acting just like Nixon, and there is more evidence that he is following Nixon's feet steps now with the Dems asking, back in February, that the IRS to look into Tea Party organizations giving and receiving donations that it might be abusing the Tax codes, and the Repubs asked the IRS how they can do this LEGALLY.

Anyone see a pattern of deciding what is LEAGAL, and ILLEGAL by this current occupier of the White House as though he feels he is ABOVE THE LAW or he thinks he is the LAW of the Land? And let's not forget that this current occupier has totally disregarded the Constitution for his own personal gains.

[Edited on 6/20/2012 1:27 PM]
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Jun 20, 2012 @ 1:26 PM Obama's "Executive Privilege" Stonewalls US House Fast & Furious Investigation    
Suthn_Man


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Fast & Furious/Contempt of Congress Hearing in Recess.
Will re-convene in 10 minutes when a vote will take place.


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Jun 20, 2012 @ 1:33 PM Obama's "Executive Privilege" Stonewalls US House Fast & Furious Investigation    
techead


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I see a forced resignation in the future.

C_V_R _P Can I buy a vowel please Pat
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Jun 20, 2012 @ 2:04 PM Obama's "Executive Privilege" Stonewalls US House Fast & Furious Investigation    
PeacefulGuy


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The thing is with Obama's executive Privilege use it's to cover-up deaths.. The others that have used it weren't... Obama makes water-gate look like kiddie play...
Just another reason why this idiot needs to go...

Can you just see the number of people this sock puppet will pardon.... OMG
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Jun 20, 2012 @ 2:06 PM Obama's "Executive Privilege" Stonewalls US House Fast & Furious Investigation    
Gallows_Humor


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http://mediamatters.org/blog/201111080023

Fox Tries To Defend Bush-Era Gun Walking Operation
November 08, 2011 4:49 pm ET by Chris Brown

On October 4 it was revealed that during the Bush Administration an ATF operation named Wide Receiver included the controversial "gun walking" tactic that was used during the more recent Fast and Furious investigation. The failed Fast and Furious operation resulted in many guns falling into the hands of Mexican cartels and has been at the heart of the National Rifle Association's ongoing calls for Attorney General Eric Holder's resignation as well as a chorus of conspiratorial accusations against the Obama administration.

Right-wing bloggers responded to the news that something similar might have happened during the Bush years with an immediate and sustained scramble to deny that Wide Receiver was anything like Fast and Furious. Using a more creative dodge Fox News correspondent William La Jeunesse dealt with the possible embarrassment of Bush-era gun walking by just suggesting operation Wide Receiver happened at "about the same time" as Fast and Furious in Fox News segment last week.

Today La Jeunesse continued the knee-jerk defense of Wide Receiver by omitting key facts about the case in a segment that aired on Happening Now.

Discussing today's Senate Judiciary hearing where Holder testified about gunwalking allegations and other issues, La Jeunesse pushed defensive talking points about Wide Receiver:

LA JEUNESSE: Democrats went back to 2007 to blame gun walking on President Bush first and they failed to say however that Operation Wide Receiver was similar but different then Fast and Furious in that we told Mexico it was happening and agents tried but often failed to surveil the weapons and then they stopped the operation. John as know in Fast and Furious there was no attempt to stop it. Only with the death of Brian Terry did they and we did not tell Mexico.
The defense of Wide Receiver comes even though internal Department of Justice e-mails confirmed Wide Receiver involved the controversial tactic of letting guns "walk."

La Jeunesse is simply wrong that "there was no attempt to stop" Fast and Furious. In January indictments were issued for 20 Fast and Furious suspects. La Jeunesse suggests this just this was only in reaction to the murder of border agent Brian Terry, which were brought considerable attention to Fast and Furious after it was revealed that 2 guns associated with the operation where found at the murder scene. But recently disclosed e-mails show that before Terry was murdered, prosecutors had already planned to issue indictments within weeks.
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Jun 20, 2012 @ 2:19 PM Obama's "Executive Privilege" Stonewalls US House Fast & Furious Investigation    
Loreli


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ex·ec·u·tive priv·i·lege1.government right to secrecy of documents: the right of the president and other government officials in the executive branch to refuse to reveal confidential material if this would interfere with the administration's ability to govern
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Perhaps if certain groups didn't bitch and whine about EVERYTHING, this wouldn't be necessary...
Let's see em do it when THEIR guy is in office.

What is, is.
And it shouldn't matter who is in charge.
Wrong is wrong.
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Jun 20, 2012 @ 2:30 PM Obama's "Executive Privilege" Stonewalls US House Fast & Furious Investigation    
techead


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Talk about
Media Matters is a LEFT WING puppet...Just like you GH....Sock puppets come in pairs .
That report can't hold any water It is a LEFT WING political move to keep the current occupier in his job. This will end the occupiers term, he has killed 2 American Citizens and not be held accountable. He will now for sure

Try to stay current Mr. Sock Puppet.....and the slight of hand shit the LEFT tries, is being seen as it really is... A FAILURE just like the occupier and his cronies

But you already know that... Ship is sinking... Rats are scurrying..... Get behind your boi... he's gonna need all hands on deck when he falls this Novemeber to help him wipe away the tears of being a total LOSER

Perhaps if certain groups didn't bitch and whine about EVERYTHING, this wouldn't be necessary...
Let's see em do it when THEIR guy is in office.
Our guys in office already have invoked Executive Privilege before, only thing is none of the privileges invoked had to do with anyone being killed like YOUR guy is doing.
Maybe you should drink a few more cups of coffee before you start posting, that way your foot won't be in the way of your mouth.
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Jun 20, 2012 @ 2:39 PM Obama's "Executive Privilege" Stonewalls US House Fast & Furious Investigation    
Gallows_Humor


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cough cough..... drama queen...


he has killed 2 American Citizens


BS.... you are so off base here....
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Jun 20, 2012 @ 2:40 PM Obama's "Executive Privilege" Stonewalls US House Fast & Furious Investigation    
sealacamp


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If this was a family member of any of you here, that was killed by a botched gun control sting, wouldn't you want the Whole Truth about exactly what happened and why it got that far?

Certainly! What erks me the most about the whole thing is the US government violated every gun law on the books, yet many leftist dingnuts in government employ are clamoring for more gun laws, as if that would fix something like this. Obviously those what work in the government arena believe they are above the law so that now someone needs to go to jail for being so overt in their disregard for the law and our safety, or maybe they need to call in Stephen Segal


BS.... you are so off base here....

Lie boys will lie, so tell us another one.
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Jun 20, 2012 @ 2:47 PM Obama's "Executive Privilege" Stonewalls US House Fast & Furious Investigation    
Gallows_Humor


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The scandal began as an operation to free seven American hostages being held by a group with Iranian ties connected to the Army of the Guardians of the Islamic Revolution. It was planned that Israel would ship weapons to Iran, and then the U.S. would resupply Israel and receive the Israeli payment. The Iranian recipients promised to do everything in their power to achieve the release of the U.S. hostages. The plan deteriorated into an arms-for-hostages scheme, in which members of the executive branch sold weapons to Iran in exchange for the release of the American hostages.[2][3] Large modifications to the plan were devised by Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North of the National Security Council in late 1985, in which a portion of the proceeds from the weapon sales was diverted to fund anti-Sandinista and anti-communist rebels, or Contras, in Nicaragua.[4][5]
While President Ronald Reagan was a supporter of the Contra cause,[6] no conclusive evidence has been found showing that he authorized the diversion of the money raised by the Iranian arms sales to the Contras.[2][3][7] To this day, it is unclear exactly what Reagan knew and when, and whether the arms sales were motivated by his desire to save the U.S. hostages.[8] After the weapon sales were revealed in November 1986, Reagan appeared on national television and stated that the weapons transfers had indeed occurred, but that the United States did not trade arms for hostages.[9] The investigation was impeded when large volumes of documents relating to the scandal were destroyed or withheld from investigators by Reagan administration officials.[10] On March 4, 1987, Reagan returned to the airwaves in a nationally televised address, taking full responsibility for any actions that he was unaware of, and admitting that "what began as a strategic opening to Iran deteriorated, in its implementation, into trading arms for hostages."[11]
Several investigations ensued, including those by the United States Congress and the three-man, Reagan-appointed Tower Commission. Neither found any evidence that President Reagan himself knew of the extent of the multiple programs.[2][3][7] In the end, fourteen administration officials were indicted, including then-Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger. Eleven convictions resulted, some of which were vacated on appeal.[12] The rest of those indicted or convicted were all pardoned in the final days of the presidency of George H. W. Bush, who had been vice-president at the time of the affair.[13]

The following arms were supplied to Iran:[31] [32]
August 20, 1985. 96 TOW anti-tank missiles
September 14, 1985. 408 more TOWs
November 24, 1985. 18 Hawk anti-aircraft missiles
February 17, 1986. 500 TOWs
February 27, 1986. 500 TOWs
May 24, 1986. 508 TOWs, 240 Hawk spare parts
August 4, 1986. More Hawk spares
October 28, 1986. 500 TOWs


so..in perspective.... this stuff today is a mole hill....
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Jun 20, 2012 @ 3:19 PM Obama's "Executive Privilege" Stonewalls US House Fast & Furious Investigation    
techead


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so..in perspective.... this stuff today is a mole hill....

WRONG

The comparison you are using didn't involve the KILLING OF A BORDER AGENT. So the mole hill is your C&P.

The mountain is where your enlightened one is hiding behind Executive Privilege and hoping he can get away till he loses in November and try and make a clean get away in January 2013.

His next political move will be to increase the impact of the negative he is receiving and try the heart strings of Americans to win in November.
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Jun 20, 2012 @ 3:52 PM Obama's "Executive Privilege" Stonewalls US House Fast & Furious Investigation    
Gallows_Humor


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come on Tech.... you are really pushing the envelope here...

you're stating that IF this operation had not taken place.. the Border patrol officer would still be alive...

which means.... You are saying there would have been no other way for the murderer to obtain a weapon...

Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was shot and killed near Rio Rico, Arizona, while attempting to apprehend a group of armed subjects. The suspects had been preying on illegal immigrants with the intent to rob them.

Agent Terry and several other agents were attempting to arrest the group when shots were exchanged between the suspects and agents. Agent Terry was struck in the pelvis by a round fired by a suspect armed with an AK-47.

The wounded agent was flown to a hospital where he succumbed early the following morning.

Four members of the group were taken into custody and at least one suspect remains at large.

Agent Terry was a U.S. Marine Corps veteran and had served with the United States Border Patrol for 3.5 years. He had previously served as a police officer with the Lincoln Park, Michigan, Police Department. He is survived by his parents, brother, two sisters, five nieces, and one nephew and is buried in Michigan Memorial Park, Flat Rock, Wayne County, Michigan.

Read more: http://www.odmp.org/officer/20596-border-patrol-agent-brian-a-terry#ixzz1yMgMPTLE

common sense says...

you are the weakest link.... you are fired... as you do not know shit from shinola....


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Jun 20, 2012 @ 4:02 PM Obama's "Executive Privilege" Stonewalls US House Fast & Furious Investigation    
NotBetty


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Wow that Clinton sure enjoyed asserting his executive privilege.
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Jun 20, 2012 @ 4:28 PM Obama's "Executive Privilege" Stonewalls US House Fast & Furious Investigation    
Loreli


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invoked had to do with anyone being killed like YOUR guy is doing.
Maybe you should drink a few more cups of coffee before you start posting, that way your foot won't be in the way of your mouth.

funny thing is...he isn't my guy.

So why don't YOU take your head out of your ass.

I don't drink coffee
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Jun 20, 2012 @ 4:34 PM Obama's "Executive Privilege" Stonewalls US House Fast & Furious Investigation    
techead


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you're stating that IF this operation had not taken place.. the Border patrol officer would could still be alive...
Now you're finely understanding and reading English as your second language

So why don't YOU take your head out of your ass.
You're so smert
You know it's physically impossible for anyone to put their own head up their ass, yet it takes little effort(yes I mean you) for a person to put their FOOT in their own mouths... Hope their your flavored shoes you are wearing.
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