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| Aug 24, 2007 @ 6:04 PM |
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Bamadreamer
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I have been reading the forums and seen some mixed comments on different posts from you men. One was talking about how cheap etc a woman is if she goes down on a guy the first date.  The other was about how long to wait to have sex. In that one not a one of you men said they think a woman is cheap or trashy if you have sex on the first date...  Now, what is the difference? Usually if oral sex is involved does the deed not follow right behind?
Not a man basher, come on I'm trying to figure you dudes out!
Pamela
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| Aug 24, 2007 @ 6:56 PM |
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spongebob777
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That's a question for that dude to answer. 
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| Aug 24, 2007 @ 10:51 PM |
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ToucherinSparks
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Just my opinion, but I don't think sucking cock or screwing on the first date is cheap. If you are attracted to each other, why not?
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| Aug 25, 2007 @ 3:53 AM |
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Say_Yes
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I have been reading the forums and seen some mixed comments on different posts from you men. One was talking about how cheap etc a woman is if she goes down on a guy the first date. The other was about how long to wait to have sex. In that one not a one of you men said they think a woman is cheap or trashy if you have sex on the first date... Now, what is the difference? Usually if oral sex is involved does the deed not follow right behind?
Not a man basher, come on I'm trying to figure you dudes out!
Pamela
Well, Pamela you could start to figure us out, by not lumping us all into a single category. It's not like we have some male union card that tells us what to think. Some guys will think that a woman is cheap, if she goes down on him on the first date. Some guys will think that it is a waste of time to date a woman that does not go down on him on the first date.
Just as not all women view sex the same way, guess what, neither do men. Stop trying to fit us all into a single, neat little category. If you treat us as individuals and realize that we are all unique individuals then you can try to figure out the individual and not the group. After all, we don't have a collective consciousness.
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| Aug 25, 2007 @ 8:11 AM |
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TheEnglishman357
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Its simple Mrs..really simple.
You see some guys say what women want to hear.
If they publicly state.....YEAH..great go for it..
Then they think other women will be put off by their words.
So to placate the women they want,,they spout all the girly stuff they have learned from reading ladies magazines.
These numpties have got them selfs confused with the first rules of sex and dating.
If no one is hurt and its consenting...then go for it.
Remeber,,there are two kinds of men.
Those with balls and can use them
Those with balls but don't know what they are for...(politicians for an example)
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| Aug 26, 2007 @ 1:29 AM |
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ToucherinSparks
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Yeah, there are quite a few girly men on here, some of them sound like they are quoting stuff right out of Cosmo or Oprah Speaks.
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| Aug 26, 2007 @ 12:15 PM |
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Gallows_Humor
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psst..you forgot to add.."or so I have been told..."  do you actually read that stuff???
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| Aug 26, 2007 @ 12:19 PM |
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Loreli
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Sex doesn't always follow oral
Some guys will mean it when they say it, others won't.
Just as some females may say they are waiting until there's a ring on their finger, but don't.
It isn't one gender, it isn't every person of one gender and it isn't always instigated by the male!
If one is true to the standards they set for themselves, that's all that matters.
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| Aug 26, 2007 @ 3:37 PM |
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littlewriter
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firstly i'll say that not all guys share the same views....its unfair (to the nice ones!) to paint them all with the same brush.
me personally, don't normally have sex on the first date. just because i am crap at telling the guys who are after one thing to the guys who are genuine and don't just want an easy shag. it sounds quite sad, but i have a six week (ish!) rule....where i'll wait that length of time before i'll sleep with the guy.
saying that though.....i didn't wait 6 weeks of dating with my current partner! but.... i had known him longer than that (met online) and we are still together so PHEW!!!
i do think some guys just say they will respect a girl more if they don't sleep with them on the first date, blah de blah blah blah....cos it is what the girl wants to hear. i also think these guys still do their damndest to get the girl to sleep with them.
though there are other guys who really don't mind waiting a bit. like i said, its unfair to paint them all with the same brush...its different with each guy...you just gotta judge their character on their own merit and not just think the worst cos of their gender
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| Aug 26, 2007 @ 4:25 PM |
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ColdinWisconsin
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Sex on the first date? Hmmm, guess some do. Perhaps not many of them have a second date...who knows.
As for oral leading to sex....one can always hope right? Kind of nice to get the first round down and work on the next round. 
And really, sometimes oral is just more convienent. (public places) that the whole shebang.
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| Aug 26, 2007 @ 5:29 PM |
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littlewriter
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more convienient for public places?! 
thats another way of thinking of it!
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| Aug 26, 2007 @ 6:41 PM |
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ToucherinSparks
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do you actually read that stuff???
No, but I've had it read to me. Great for when you can't sleep, puts you right out.
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| Aug 26, 2007 @ 8:28 PM |
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lynnielou
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Puts me to sleep too!
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| Aug 26, 2007 @ 8:40 PM |
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Gallows_Humor
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No, but I've had it read to me. Great for when you can't sleep, puts you right out.
thinking that you should let her know that it doesn't work...
http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a2_324.html
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| Aug 27, 2007 @ 1:58 PM |
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ColdinWisconsin
Posts: 8,637
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more convienient for public places?!
thats another way of thinking of it!
Well, you know what I mean! Restraunts, grocery stores, dark alley ways...
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| Aug 27, 2007 @ 2:13 PM |
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Silvertongue62
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I have been reading the forums and seen some mixed comments on different posts from you men.
Same goes for the women. There is no patent held by either gender on any issue when dealing with life.
The reality is most people in here when posting on a thread of some sort of substance they LIE. They lie to make up for their incompetence where truth is concerned. In the minds of some it is better to be politically correct in order for other to perceive them in a favorable light than to stand by the truth that he or she would sleep with their date on the first date or whatever the quandy is. The first thread you were speaking about dealt with whether or not a man minds if he has to wait for sex. Most guys that are straight? Dont want to wait for sex. But if we have to we will. Now whether we deny ourselves the basic and most fundamental desires or even having those desires given to us all at birth is another story.
But getting back to your question there is less than truth spewing from both sides of the isle.
JMO
[Edited on 8/27/2007 2:21 PM]
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| Aug 27, 2007 @ 3:27 PM |
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vicryder
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Any woman who has any kind of sex with me on the first date is simply exhibiting impeccable good taste.
And a healthy lack of false restraint.
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| Aug 27, 2007 @ 3:41 PM |
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Silvertongue62
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ROFLMAO..........
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| Sep 2, 2007 @ 12:59 PM |
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Bamadreamer
Posts: 172
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LOL Vic...I reread my post and see that it looks like I was putting all men in one category which was not my intention. It is true every person has their own view points and that is what I was looking for.
Some of us are new to the forums. Plz overlook our unintentional misleading words oh great one of MD..lol
Pammie
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| Sep 7, 2007 @ 1:53 PM |
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drs297
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CW.. now there is my kind of woman
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