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| Jun 20 @ 4:05 PM |
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Always_Striving

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When I used to go clubbing in the 90's I would see a couple of groups of women or maybe 2-3 women that were sitting at the tables in bars or at the dance clubs hanging out and drinking and laughing.
It seemed that a few times (but not all times) when I would approach the cuties they would want me to meet or dance with the undesirable-unattractive looking wowan. The one that was kinda ugly (double bagger) , too fat, or had a reclusive-fussy personality. I would always decline, of course, and decided that it is much better just to have a Jack Daniels and Coke and forget that I ever approached that table, maybe just enjoy the band instead.
I have heard that women sometimes drag along a coyote ugly sidekick just to make themselves appear more attractive (relatively). Maybe this tactic is used only for attention or something else. Sympathy gesture for her friend?
Anyway I would like to find out why a woman would choose to drag along her ugly friend when she goes out instead of a friend which she might consider to be equally attractive as her.
Another thing...... when the ugly friend isn't getting attention and the good looking one is, it seems as though the ugly one always wants to go home and force her good looking friend to leave the scene as well.
What can you all tell me?
(edited for grammar mistakes) 
[Edited on 6/20/2008 4:18 PM]
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| Jun 20 @ 4:07 PM |
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LipGlossQueen9

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God, this hurts.
I was the ugly friend. I recently stopped talking to the girl.
Girls who do this to other girls should fall chest first onto a rusty spike.
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| Jun 20 @ 4:11 PM |
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Always_Striving

Posts: 7,332
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LGQ, I don't consider you to be unattractive.
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| Jun 20 @ 4:12 PM |
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LipGlossQueen9

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I used to be.
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| Jun 20 @ 4:59 PM |
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Loreli

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I couldn't imagine you the ugly friend, LGQ....but I was also.
Only difference is-we spent our time with friends, not users....and that was the luck of the draw
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| Jun 20 @ 6:46 PM |
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Gallows_Humor

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I have never found this to be true.. In my experiences with women. it was more like who the "pretty girl" was friends with IRT and looks had nothing to do with it.. (as shown by the fact that both LGQ and Loreli both thought they were the "ugly one")
Always...imho it had more to do with the "clubbing personalities" of everyone involved.. both LGQ and Loreli are more sensible and down to earth types who do not fit into the "party girl image" that you are describing here
YMMV...
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| Jun 20 @ 6:55 PM |
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SyndilLucian

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I am also one of the ugly ones. I didn't have that many friends to go out with, but the mentality behind it would be the same, I would suspect.
If you know a male friend who never seems to go out, is shy and not on the 100 hottest guys list, don't you sometimes feel compelled to try to get him to go with you to the local watering hole? Just to get him out in the real world, and maybe meet someeone?
Or maybe this is just a girl thing, not sure. As for the 'ugly' one wanting to go home and taking the cute one with her.. how would you feel if there was a room full of women, and you a male friend or two were out for the night, and the other guys were getting all the attention while you sat there downing your Jack and coke all night?
Personally, that would not appeal to me at all, just make me more unhappy with myself as I am. The saddest part is, men are missing out on really great ladies because they are looking at the outside and not exploring the inside of the women they meet. I think both LGQ and Lori are fantastic looking ladies, and they have always been, even if they can not see it themselves...
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| Jun 20 @ 7:46 PM |
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Aeromuse

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I tend to choose my friends on the merits of their personality and character, as opposed to how "god" or"bad" they make me "look."
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| Jun 20 @ 9:54 PM |
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signme

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Apparently I was better looking in my younger days as I never really had that problem. I would go out with a group of friends of varying ages and we all had certain types of guys we each would attract. Sometimes I felt like the "fifth wheel", esp. when I was with 2 friends that hooked up with 2 guys who were together. But I could never leave early as we had all driven together! LOL Now of course, I steer pretty clear of bars. But that could be because all the friends I used to go out with are now married and don't go out like that anymore.
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| Jun 20 @ 10:37 PM |
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emptypages

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Lori, you could NEVER be the ugly friend.
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| Jun 20 @ 10:45 PM |
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Loreli

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GH and Empty- you are very sweet!
It seemed that a few times (but not all times) when I would approach the cuties they would want me to meet or dance with the undesirable-unattractive looking wowan. The one that was kinda ugly (double bagger) , too fat, or had a reclusive-fussy personality Maybe they just wanted to help a friend that never got asked.
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| Jun 20 @ 10:46 PM |
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LipGlossQueen9

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Thanks guys.
I was the ugly friend though. 180-200 lbs, kinky curly hair, acne...yeah.
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| Jun 21 @ 1:36 AM |
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pamdemonium

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and the first one now, they will later be last..... Things change.
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| Jun 21 @ 2:03 PM |
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1stsignofspring

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I was the ugly duckling growing up...and the shy, bashful one...so i was the one always getting fixed up on a blind date so I can understand what it feels like. My friends never intentionally brought me along.....they just always wanted to fix me up so I could get some experience. I guess I evolved over time.... It is never right to do this....but what goes around comes around or you reap what you sow. Some of those so called popular cute girls didn't age too well from what I've seen..
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| Jul 12 @ 5:09 PM |
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SKIDELZ

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Im not sure if anyone really does these things like on purpose ..
Its a known fact that we women travel in packs ....
even to the bathroom ... where mysterious girl things happen between drunken friends lol
but ... I was the ugly one ... till I wasnt ... then I was ....
To each his own right??
none of you girls are ugly ...
none of you ... but ,,, there are dog ugly women out there ,.. and if your going to a club to pick up a " mate " unattractive , mostly attitude wise women , with you .. will only hold you back .. they are not out to have fun but rather wallow in insecurity , and bring the whole grounp down nagging and complaining wanting to leave rather than just have fun ... your more likely to get picked up if you look like fun , rather than a drag .... its harder for anyone to have a good time , so why try to make your self look better??
isnt that just a sign of a pretty persons insecurities too?? why the hell would you need to bring along someone with the thought " its gonna make me look good " what the hell kind of sence does that really make ??? your only detouring people form approaching you ... and making someone else feel bad .. and making yourself and everyone around you misserable
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| Jul 12 @ 5:24 PM |
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Loreli

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I danced with ALMOST everyone that asked me....some were just scary!
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| Jul 12 @ 5:27 PM |
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SKIDELZ

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I always do ... and yeah the scary one .. not fun but fun all at the same time .. i like to laugh .. I have by no control of my own had to walk off the dancefloor .. saying im so sorry .. im too drunk omg ..laughing histerically .. and not able to breath .. but still .. the fun of it is what matters ... just the grouping man gets to be alittle much for me .,...
I have also had to be carried out of the club by bouncers .. on more than one occasion and im not violent ... but girls get catty omg
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| Jul 12 @ 6:50 PM |
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BandTMom

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I can't say I've ever experienced this..
Unless I was the ugly one!
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| Jul 13 @ 8:09 AM |
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LaughTillYaPuke

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In my old group of friends we DID have a friend who was heavier and came across as anit-social. But when we girls were alone, she was an absolute riot!
Why did we drag her along? Because, she NEEDED to get out and meet men. She just didn't seem to know how. We did it so that she would be surrounded by a few of the women that she knew how to laugh and have fun with (thus taking some pressure off her)
It wasn't so much to "hook her up", but to give her the confidance to finally just "be herself!" This fun witty woman that we all knew so well. But she would always feel so left out and sad when we as couples got together. We wanted HER to have a SO as well!
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| Jul 13 @ 9:42 AM |
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custis

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"I would approach the cuties they would want me to meet or dance with the undesirable-unattractive looking wowan."
I do not do nightclubs anymore, but yes, I ran into this a lot and it pissed me off. Like if I wanted to dance with the gal I would have asked her instead of one of her friends. My bud T.J. used to do that crap to me. He is 6-2 with carribean blue eyes and a face that is a combination of George Clooney, Nick Cage and Elvis all wrapped up into one. The girls would line up in front of him and I did not even exist. When he would say "Why don't you dance with my friend Custis instead," I would shrink and want to crawl under the table. I finally pulled him aside one night and told him not to do that anymore.
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