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ServantOfChrist2
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Funk & Wagnalls Standard Desk Dictionary. Obedient--"1. Complying with or conforming to a command, restraint, etc.; dutiful". John 14:23--"If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. My Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. 24--He who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me.
14:30--"I will not speak with you much longer, for the prince of this world is coming. He has no hold on me, 31--but the world must learn that I love the Father and that I do exactly what the Father has commanded me.
Come now; let us leave."
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| Mar 19, 2007 @ 12:53 PM |
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ServantOfChrist2
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Personally I try very, very hard to be obedient to the will of the Father.
Though often obedience to the Father's will is difficult.
(His will--as expressed through various commands listed in the Bible, and as demonstrated + discussed by Jesus Christ.)
Strict obedience can sometimes not be our natural tendency.
Most of the time in fact.
I believe this is clearly stated. Matthew 16:24--"Then Jesus said to His disciples, 'If anyone would come after me, he must denty himself and take up the cross and follow me. 25--For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for me will find it. 26--What good will it be for a man if he gains the whole world, yet forfeits his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul?"
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| Mar 19, 2007 @ 4:01 PM |
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kattsmeow
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When God decides or wishes for me to do something, I never have a choice. I do it!!!!
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| Mar 19, 2007 @ 6:00 PM |
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ServantOfChrist2
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Katt, I admire you for that. 
While I certainly try to be obedient to the modes of behaviour given to us in the Bible. It is becoming a little easier for me. (Through the development of what Sail refers to as The Christ Mind. (I believe.) The daily practice of Christ-like behaviour is making such behaviour almost habitual.
But still I'm too weak.
But I take a bit of comfort in the words of Paul.
Romans 7:15--"I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. 16--And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. 17--As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. 18--I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. 19--For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do--this I keep on doing. 20--Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it."
These words don't enable to go on a sinning-spree whenever I want though. (My love for Jesus Christ would never tolerate such behaviour from myself. He has given me so much. He even gave His life for me.)
But the awareness that Satan is very active within me, keeps me on my toes--actively pursuing, or searching for, the route of obedience
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| Mar 19, 2007 @ 6:15 PM |
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hammertime
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I certainly hope obedience doesn't include stoning any girls who lost their virginity. 
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| Mar 19, 2007 @ 6:26 PM |
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kjac
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No Hammer, not anymore. But it might include sacrificing your son or drinking the funny kool-aid.
Yes, you do have a choice katts. We all do. It's called free will.
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| Mar 19, 2007 @ 8:40 PM |
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ServantOfChrist2
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kjac, I believe what Katt is suggesting is that her love for Him is so overwhelmingly complete, that anything less than complete obedience to the Father, would leave her feeling incomplete.
I am guessing that she feels that if she were not to obey Him completely, she'd feel incomplete.
I've known Katt + her husband for a little while now, and I think it's safe to say that they're both totally sold-out to the Lord.
Katt once said that she is crazy for Jesus.
By her limited free will, she tries to be obedient to Jesus Christ at every opportunity she is given.
We only fool ourselves by claiming we have complete free will.
Those who have given their lives to Jesus, have asked Him to take responsibility for their guidance + protection.
And since He is the Creatior of the universe and the Master of All Things, being in the watchful care of a loving Father like Him is a pretty good place to be.
Whether we like to believe it or not, we are all servants.
At least our Master-in-heaven is completely open about His involvement in our lives. (Unlike the Deceiver.)
Hi Katt. 
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| Mar 19, 2007 @ 9:33 PM |
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sealacamp
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I certainly hope obedience doesn't include stoning any girls who lost their virginity.
I feel very sorry for you hammer. Very.
You too kjac.
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| Mar 19, 2007 @ 9:55 PM |
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Angel54214
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Savior, teach me day by day
Love’s sweet lesson to obey,
Sweeter lesson cannot be,
Loving Him Who first loved me.
With a child’s glad heart of love
At Thy bidding may I move,
Prompt to serve and follow Thee,
Loving Him Who first loved me.
Teach me thus Thy steps to trace,
Strong to follow in Thy grace,
Learning how to love from Thee,
Loving Him Who first loved me.
Love in loving finds employ,
In obedience all her joy;
Ever new that joy will be,
Loving Him Who first loved me.
Thus may I rejoice to show
That I feel the love I owe;
Singing, till Thy face I see,
Of His love Who first loved me.
Jane Eliza Leeson (1842)
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| Mar 19, 2007 @ 10:48 PM |
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Pete73052
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I feel it is God's will for me to exercise MY free will. I don't think God's will is necessarily faithfully reproduced in the Bible. I feel His will.
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| Mar 19, 2007 @ 11:32 PM |
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kattsmeow
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If God wishes for me to do something, it is done. I give myself over to Him, as an open book, to write what He wants. His will be done, on earth as it is in Heaven.
Thank you Servant, you know as well as I do that when God decides He wants you to do something, you do it, no questions asked!
What most people don't understand is, they think they are doing things of their own free will. How do they know if they are or not??  It might be Gods plan all along 
I for one, know when I am doing something for God. If I try to go my own way, it can get ugly.
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| Mar 19, 2007 @ 11:38 PM |
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hammertime
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Fox News Hannity & Colmes interview
Thank God for Dead Soldiers
Click->This is REAL Christian obedience at its best.
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| Mar 19, 2007 @ 11:53 PM |
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kjac
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What kind of sick SOB does that shit? That is exactly what I mean when I speak out for RETROACTIVE abortion. Sick demented lunatics like this belong in a mental asylum. Wrath of god my ass! If that were one of my friends or family I'd have killed every one of those stupid heartless bastards. Yes, I realize that makes me just as bad or worse than them. I don't have a problem with that either! They don't deserve to live! A fine example of the use of religion to justify prejudice and hate!
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| Mar 20, 2007 @ 12:17 AM |
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tomccc
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Yes Katt. The Bible tells us to lean not on our own understanding.
I do try to be obedient to the wishes of God.
I do understand what you mean though Servant.
It is wonderful to meet some true Christians on here.
God bless you as you seek the Lord.
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| Mar 20, 2007 @ 12:46 AM |
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kjac
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If I try to go my own way, it can get ugly.
That sounds like someone who knows they have free will, and chooses not to use it out of fear.
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| Mar 20, 2007 @ 8:56 AM |
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ServantOfChrist2
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Hi Tomccc.
Welcome. 
I pray you find your experiences here to be.....insightful + rewarding. Most certainly I pray that your experience here contributes something positive to your relationship with Jesus Christ.
Regular attendance here will challenge your faith. But I believe that through your own resolve, your faith will be strengthened.
Although a hatred of God will expose itself to you here, you should also be encouraged by the openness of some, as their love for the Lord is revealed.
I would advise that you try not to get too caught-up in the silliness of bickering. (Though I myself have sunk to those levels here in the past.)
I pray He blesses you + guides you as you seek to serve Him.
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| Mar 20, 2007 @ 11:39 AM |
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kattsmeow
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Katt:
If I try to go my own way, it can get ugly.
KJAC:
That sounds like someone who knows they have free will, and chooses not to use it out of fear.
I do not fear God. I love Him.
I just know for a fact to wait for answers to my prayers instead of going off on my own, and making a mess of it.
This is something you do not understand though. I am God's child, I listen to my Father when He tells me something.
Fear?? No, respect and love.
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| Mar 20, 2007 @ 1:25 PM |
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kjac
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I just know for a fact to wait for answers to my prayers instead of going off on my own, and making a mess of it.
I believe I am clouded on the subject. Are you saying you personally, or everyone in general should do this?
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| Mar 21, 2007 @ 12:07 AM |
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kattsmeow
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If you pray to God/Jesus and you don't wait for an answer, think that you can handle it because God/Jesus aren't fast enough, it isn't going to work the way you want or thought.
Something happened just yesterday and prayed for a loved one. Today, I got the answer. God is listening, He did it his way, not the way I would have did it either.
Oh and when I figuired it out, I sat down and thanked Him, and to tell Him, I love Him.
But, hey, I believe, that is the difference between us huh? No one, no matter what they say in here will ever change my mind about my belief. I love my God.
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| Mar 21, 2007 @ 12:11 AM |
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kjac
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I was wrong katts. I wasn't clouded on the subject, your answer was. Do you or do you not believe that you have the power to control your own decisions? It really is as simple as yes or no.
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