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Mar 31, 2007 @ 12:42 PM How many christians believe this?    
kjac


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Is George HW Bush a singular psychotic christian, or are there more people as unamerican as him?

http://www.holysmoke.org/sdhok/aa011.htm
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Mar 31, 2007 @ 1:07 PM How many christians believe this?    
hammertime


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Prescott Bush, the patriarch, father of GHB and grandfather of GWB was a US Senator from Connecticut and a Wall Street executive banker with Brown Brothers Harriman.

Harriman Bank was the main Wall Street connection for German companies and the varied U.S. financial interests of Fritz Thyssen, who had been an early financial backer of the Nazi party until 1938, but who by 1939 had fled Germany and was bitterly denouncing Hitler. Business transactions for profit with Nazi Germany were not illegal when Hitler declared war on the US, but, six days after the attack on Pearl Harbor, President Roosevelt signed the Trading With the Enemy Act after it had been made public that U.S. companies were doing business with the declared enemy of the United States. On October 20, 1942, the U.S. government ordered the seizure of Nazi German banking operations in New York City.
Basically while there was a war with Germany money was to be made anyway. Maybe not technically illegal but certainly immoral and unethical. Do you see any parallels with this war time profiteering and The Shrubs dealings with the Carlyle Group, Halliburton and Saudi Arabia? Are you aware Halliburton moved its head quarters to Dubai where there in NO INCOME TAX??? War time profiteering is now taking an Arab twist where money can be laundered without detection.

The Patriot Act allows complete eavesdropping on a massive scale. If anyone was to detect any wrong doing the government would learn of any communications before it gets to press or congress.

The sick Christian rhetoric is only to support faith based mind controlling mind numbing efforts to keep large masses of people stupefied with religious dogma and ignorance. Since Bush is a self proclaimed Born Again Christian, he's equivalent to the same theocracy the Founding Fathers fled from.

[Edited on 3/31/2007 1:13 PM]
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Mar 31, 2007 @ 1:11 PM How many christians believe this?    
kjac


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It would seem theft, deception, and bigotry are true family trademarks. But I wonder how popular this belief is? He did in fact get elected into the highest office after all. That would lead me to believe there are a lot of bigoted ignorant christians who feel this way.
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Mar 31, 2007 @ 4:09 PM How many christians believe this?    
craterchains


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I am more concerned by the "impish" behaviour of humanoids amongst us humans.
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Mar 31, 2007 @ 5:03 PM How many christians believe this?    
kjac


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I am more concerned by the "impish" behaviour of humanoids amongst us humans.

Then stop acting impish.
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Mar 31, 2007 @ 6:30 PM How many christians believe this?    
craterchains


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flip flop, tick tock, , your time is fast running out fallen ones
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Mar 31, 2007 @ 11:26 PM How many christians believe this?    
hammertime


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humanoids amongst us humans.
Don't you mean hemorrhoids amongst us humans?

[Edited on 3/31/2007 11:34 PM]
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Mar 31, 2007 @ 11:53 PM How many christians believe this?    
kjac


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I think it's amazing that NOT ONE SANE CHRISTIAN has anything to say for or against these statements. In fact, none have even commented.
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Apr 1, 2007 @ 1:15 AM How many christians believe this?    
bryan2992


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well lets see, do I agree that atheists should not be considered citizens no I don't agree with that. Do I have a firm belief that those to renounce GOD will be condemned to hell, yes. but that is MY belief just as yours is not to believe. ahhhh the freedom of this country.
Also the citizens of this country have the right to dislike anyone that doesn't agree with them. As long as violence does not occur we are all within our rights to think anyway we want including the current or any past president of the united states.

Also think about this. while there are a large number of atheists out there, there are also a larger number of christians that vote and expect those they vote for to be of the same beliefs. So suck it up, christians are here for the long haul.
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Apr 1, 2007 @ 1:59 AM How many christians believe this?    
kjac


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And whether George and company like it or not, so are we. We're not going anywhere, but thanks for the opinion.
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Apr 1, 2007 @ 8:12 AM How many christians believe this?    
sealacamp


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NOT ONE SANE CHRISTIAN

You asked a baited question based on your opinion and not fact since nothing you purport can be proven. Is it any wonder no one answered? There is nothing to answer and no reason to answer it. And how is it possible for you to determine who is sane and who is not? Even Jesus was accused of being insane by his own family. You have no idea what you are talking about, none.

S
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Apr 1, 2007 @ 8:28 AM How many christians believe this?    
craterchains


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Sealacamp



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Apr 1, 2007 @ 8:50 AM How many christians believe this?    
hammertime


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There's been a lot of exposure and attention drawn to fanatical religious beliefs in the last several years especially in fundamental Christianity. There is also a growing concern and effort to expose it by those who used to ignore it. Many who are becoming more aware of its damaging effects. Even some Christians themselves are beginning to become self aware and examine themselves more carefully except, of course, the evangelicals and fundamentals.

One of the biggest weapons against ignorance and sick religiosity is the evolving internet. Multimedia and communication is becoming more advanced and easily accessible. Computers, telephone, and television are merging. We can access anything at anytime. You can even get an online degree from an accredited university. We've come that far.

There is less dependency on the 6 o'clock news or 20/20 reports because the news can be pulled at anytime. There will always be a lunatic fringe who will also use the internet to promote their demented thoughts but they will be easily monitored.
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Apr 1, 2007 @ 8:53 AM How many christians believe this?    
hammertime


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You asked a baited question based on your opinion and not fact since nothing you purport can be proven
Nothing bated. The news is the news. Only an idiot would ignore known facts in the public record.
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Apr 1, 2007 @ 9:00 AM How many christians believe this?    
craterchains


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ALL media is controled by the FAOE's.

ALL religion is controled and perpetrated by the FAOE's

ALL governments on this planet are controled and perpetrated by the FAOE's


I got out, and I advise ALL to get out of them while they now can.

Time is very short, , , , tick tock, tick tock, , ,

, , , or how else would some of us now know these things?


losers
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Apr 1, 2007 @ 1:32 PM How many christians believe this?    
kjac


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ALL media is controled by the FAOE's.

ALL religion is controled and perpetrated by the FAOE's

ALL governments on this planet are controled and perpetrated by the FAOE's

Seal, would you call that sane? I doubt even you would make that stretch. I have a very good idea what I'm talking about, but I doubt you do. I'm talking about an ignorant bigot saying all atheists are unamerican and shouldn't be citizens. No bait whatsoever there. I was asking if christians agree with him. Simple yes or no, no bait required or given.

But for the record, most actual christians I have spoken with do not agree with him. He is not a singular psychotic, but he is in the minority as far as I can tell.
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Apr 1, 2007 @ 1:41 PM How many christians believe this?    
sealacamp


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It is not my position to make a judgement like that about what the spirit may have shown someone. Neither is it yours although that won't stop you. Your discernment is not coming from the right place so it is impossible to know weather or not that is a sane statement. Even those that do have the discerning ability can not know what the spirit may have revealed to one person only. As I said before even Jesus's own family said He was insane. Judge as you will and bait all you like, I don't think you will find very many takers except for those of a kind.

S
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Apr 1, 2007 @ 1:46 PM How many christians believe this?    
kjac


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Actually, I've gotten a lot of answers from people both christian and non-christian. I must admit, it has been a positive response as well. MOST christians are not clouded by the bigotry this man displayed.
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Apr 2, 2007 @ 9:47 AM How many christians believe this?    
Thor1960303


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"Every good Christian ought to give [Jerry] Falwell a kick in the ass".

Sen.Barry Goldwater commenting on the Moral Majority in 1981.I think if he were alive today he would include the Bush family in his list of ass kick recipients.
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Apr 2, 2007 @ 8:55 PM How many christians believe this?    
kjac


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I'm not a christian Thor, so I don't try to speak for them. But it isn't just Falwell. Swaggart, Robertson, Graham, they're all the same. I believe Christians would be better off if they weren't allowed on television, because the ones on television make asses of themselves.
And as far as Bush goes, like I said, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
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