| Apr 24, 2007 @ 2:38 PM |
Where is this 'Tomb' of Jesus Christ situated?
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12knots
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The Tomb is in the Kan Yar District of Shrinagar, Kashmir, India. There is evidence to support the thesis put forward upon this site that Jesus Christ journeyed here after surviving the Crucifixion. There are historical records talking of his presence in India under the name of "Yus Asaph".
[Edited on 4/24/2007 2:48 PM]
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| Apr 24, 2007 @ 3:04 PM |
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raykl
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It would be nice to support this with links or where this theory is proved.
A statement is hard to defend or disagree with without some sort of reference.
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| Apr 24, 2007 @ 3:10 PM |
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12knots
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The Tomb of Jesus
This should start.
Sorry, I was thinking people would just throw in with their thoughts, comments, links.
Personally i keep an open mind to it.
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| Apr 24, 2007 @ 3:36 PM |
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Angel54214
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"12", Jesus told in the N.T. scriptures that many would come in His name, and some were during His time as He stated.
There was a man named Thomas that did go out into the world and he used Jesus' name. He traveled to India. (There are ancient codexes that state this). The people even built churches for worshiping him. Thomas was martyred. There is no body in the tomb nor was there any evidence of DNA linking a human body in that tomb.
In that location of India also have been many many reports of a "Neandathal" , even up to just recently. The footprints on that site are not of a human.
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| Apr 24, 2007 @ 7:12 PM |
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uab_5
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12Knot,
you're using the mistaken assumption many people make that it's possible to scientically justify believes.
That's why we cal them believes not facts.
Example of a belief:
The Titanic is unsinkable and many people sailed on her.
Dispelled by the fact:
The Titanic sank and many people died. 
Fact:
A man named Jesus lived in the 1st century AD Palestine and preached.
Which is also the Anglo equivalent of saying in 17th century England a man named John Smith preached.
Belief:
Jesus was born to die for our sins yada yada yada yada....
My point: it's impossible and highly illogical to apply reason to a beliefe system.
Beliefs just are
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| Apr 24, 2007 @ 7:14 PM |
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medisynergi
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I wasnt aware that jesus died.
Really.
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| Apr 24, 2007 @ 7:16 PM |
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12knots
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Sorry, does anyone wish to say anything about the title of the thread?
I find it fascinating.
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| Apr 24, 2007 @ 8:03 PM |
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stormbay
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I've had a look at the link, it appears to me pretty close to what I saw when over there. I find it hard to dispute proven verifiable recorded history, particularly when it fits with other recorded history and not just hearsay and altered documents. What struck me most of all, was the agreement between Hindu, Buddhist and Islamic scholars on the area, regarding the tomb and what it contained. When you see the carved feet and hands, that represent where spikes would really be put in a crucifixion, compared with the absurd biblical one, you can see what is fact and what is fiction.
Considering there is glaring evidence to support the tomb and yet not one bit of evidence to support the mythical biblical version. If mentally stable, you can only come to one conclusion. This tomb can be verified to exist and what it contains, is verified to be at least 1800 years old. When you take into account the number of written ancient documents supporting it, both religious and civil, its really hard to refute. Three different religions of the area actually agree on this and all accept the tombs status. The bibles, have nothing like that to support them, just the opposite.
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| Apr 24, 2007 @ 8:08 PM |
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stormbay
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By the way, there is another tomb not far away, which holds the remains of his two wife's and 2 of his 3 children. The third one, set of to travel and those that went with him, became the gypsy tribes of the world. So the story goes. 
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| Apr 24, 2007 @ 8:36 PM |
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Angel54214
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** The Japanese Legend **
According to the “historic document” below found in Ibaraki Prefecture, Japan, it is said that the LORD JESUS CHRIST died at age 106 in northern Honshu, Japan. The story states that the document contains Jesus’ last will & testament (???) that his brother be buried next to him (???).
Consider this quote from one (non-Christian) source, describing this blasphemous heresy:
“According to Japanese legend, Jesus escaped His fate at Golgotha, fled across Siberia and eventually settled down in Shingo, Japan, a small garlic-farming community in Aomori Prefecture. To this day, the locals worship at a spot believed to mark his grave.”
False Tomb of Christ in Shingo Japan
Here is the link to the CNN website article describing what a tourist attraction this FALSE tomb of Jesus in Japan has become
http://www.cnn.com/TRAVEL/NEWS/9907/08/japan.grave/.
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| Apr 24, 2007 @ 9:00 PM |
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Angel54214
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Jesus in the Ninth book of the Hindu; Puranas, the Bhavishya Maha Purana
It records an encounter of King Shalivahana with Jesus Christ near Srinagar long after
the crucifixion. In contrast to the Gospels. It was compiled by Sutta in the
year 3191 of the Kaukikia Era. That corresponds to the year 115 AD. (Jesus
Christ is believed to have died at age 120, so this account was compiled five
years before his death). Alongside the oral tradition of The Followers of Jesus
in Afghanistan, this written account is perhaps the most important of any of the
documents recording the presence of Jesus long after the crucifixion, because it
was written while Jesus, according to the theory, would still have been alive:
Shalivahan, who was a grandson of Bikrama Jit, took over the government. He
vanquished the attacking hordes of Chinese, Parthians, Scythians and Bactrians.
He drew a border between the Arians and the Mleacha (= non-Hindus), and ordered
the latter to withdraw to the other side of India. One day, Shalivahan, the
chief ot the Sakyas, went into the Himalayas. There, in the Land of the Hun (=
Ladakh, a part of the Kushan empire), the powerful king saw a man sitting on a
mountain, who seemed to promise auspiciousness. His skin was fair and he wore
white garments.
The king asked the holy man who he was. The other replied: 'I am called a son
of God, born of a virgin, minister of the non-believers, relentless in search
of the truth.' The king then asked him: 'What is your religion?' The other
replied, 'O great king, I come from a foreign country, where there is no longer
truth and where evil knows no bounds. In the land of the non-believers, I
appeared as the Messiah. But the demon Ihamasi of the barbarians (dasyu)
manifested herself in a terrible form; I was delivered unto her in the manner
of the non-believers and ended in Ihamasi's realm.
O' king, lend your ear to the religion that I brought unto the non-believers:
after the purification of the essence and the impure body and after seeking
refuge in the prayers of the Naigama, man will pray to the Eternal. Through
justice, truth, meditation and unity of spirit, man will find his way to Isa in
the center of light. God, as firm as the sun, will finally unite the spirit of
all wandering beings in himself. Thus, O king, Ihamasi will be destroyed; and
the blissful image if Isa, the giver of happiness, will remain forever in the
heart; and I was called Isa-Masih. After the king heard these words, he took
the teacher of the non-believers and sent him to their pitiless land.
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| Apr 24, 2007 @ 9:10 PM |
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Angel54214
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Mention of Jesus in the Rauzat-us-Safa
Jesus was mentioned in a Persian historical work known as the Rauzat-us-Safa,
written by Mir Muhammad Bin Khawand.in 1417 A.D.
The complete title of the writing is, Rauza-tus-Safa fi Sirat-ul-Ambia wal Muluk wal Khulafa, which means; (Gardens of Purity concerning the biography of the Prophets and Kings and Caliphs). It was published later in the year 1852 AD, in Bombay. In this book, he mentions a tradition regarding a visit by Jesus and Mary to Nasibain:
Jesus (on whom be peace) was named the “Messiah” because he was a great
traveler. He wore a woolen scarf on his head and a woolen cloak on his body. He
had a stick in his hand; he used to wander from country to country and from city
to city. At nightfall he would stay where he was. He ate jungle vegetables,
drank jungle water, and went on his travels on foot. His companions, in one of
his travels, once bought a horse for him; he rode the horse one day, but as he
could not make any provision for the feeding of the horse, he returned it.
Journeying from his country, he arrived at Nasibain. With him were a few of his
disciples whom he sent into the city to preach. In the city, however, there were
current wrong and unfounded rumors about Jesus (on whom be peace) and his
mother. The governor of the city, therefore, arrested the disciples and then
summoned Jesus. Jesus miraculously healed some persons and exhibited other
miracles. The king of the territory of Nasibain, therefore, with all his armies
and his people, became a follower of his. The legend of the ‘coming down of
food’ contained in the Holy Quran belongs to the days of his travels.
I have lots more! Pick your Legend folks! 
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| Apr 24, 2007 @ 9:15 PM |
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Angel54214
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Jesus in Ikmal-ud-Din
The author of Ikmal-ud-Din, (the original title is, Kamal-ud Din wa Tmam-un Nimat
fi Asbat-ul-Ghaibat wa Kashf-ul-Hairet), is Al-Shaikh Al-Said-us-Sadiq.Abi
Jaffar Muhammad Ibn-i-Ali Ibn-i-Hussain Ibn-i-Musa Ibn-i-Baibuyah al-Qummi, who
died in Khorasan in 962 AD.
Say that 3x fast! 
He was a scholar who had traveled to many countries
in order to research material for his book. He mentions the travels of Jesus
Christ (Yuz Asaf) to Kashmir:
Then Yuz Asaf, after roaming about in many cities, reached that country which
is called Kashmir. He traveled in it far and wide and stayed there and spent
his (remaining) life there, until death overtook him, and he left the earthly
body and was elevated towards the Light. But before his death, he sent for a
disciple of his, Ba’bad, by name, who used to serve him and was well versed in
all matters. He expressed his last will to him and said: ‘My time for departing
from this world has come. Carry on your duties properly and turn not back from
truth, and say your prayers regularly.’ He then directed Ba’bad to prepare a
tomb over him (at the very place he died). He then stretched his legs towards
the West and head towards the East and died. May God bless him.
Yuz Asaf taught in parables in the same manner as the Bible records that Jesus
taught. Here is a sample of a parable of Yuz Asaf’s that parallels the famous
sower-of-seeds parable mentioned by the Gospels:
When a sower goes to sow and sows, some seeds fall by the wayside, and the
birds pick up the seed. Some fall upon stray land, and when they reach the
stony foundation they wither away. Some fall among thorns and grow not: but the
seed that falls on the good land, grows and brings forth fruit. By the sower is
meant the wise, by the seed is meant his words of wisdom. The seeds picked up
by birds mean those people who understand not. The seeds on the stony ground
are like the words of wisdom that go in one ear and out of the other. The seed
that fell among the thorns are like unto those who hear and understand but act
not accordingly. Other seeds which fall on good grounds are like those who hear
the words of wisdom and obey.
Also, it is far from likely that Shaikh Sadiq would have inserted this story,
deceitfully citing it as a Kashmiri tradition. It is very unlikely because of
the fact that the scripture of Shaikh Sadiq was the Quran, not the Bible. The
parable of the sower of the seeds does not exist in the Quran, so why would
Shaikh Sadiq have taken a Biblical parable that has no connection whatsoever to
his own religious tradition and inserted it into his account of Kashmiri
tradition?
Again, he certainly wasn’t trying to destroy Christian belief by
suggesting that Jesus was in Kashmir long after the Crucifixion, because to do
so, as we stated above, would have meant the destruction of his own religious
beliefs as well, since both orthodox Muslims and orthodox Christians believe in
the Ascension of Jesus Christ.
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| Apr 24, 2007 @ 9:55 PM |
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sail_dancer
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Angel,
From your posts, I can only conclude that Jesus must have lead a long life and traveled much after his cricifiction.
It is your personal belief that the bible is the truth and other writings are false. I give all writings the benefit of the doubt.
I makes me feel good that Jesus lived long and had many travels.
Peace
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| Apr 24, 2007 @ 9:59 PM |
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12knots
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I found this info only today about this "Tomb".
Then doing a little research I am shocked by the amount of information available about a life Jesus had after the crucification.
Personally, I dont know what could be true or not. As for plausibility, a definite  Especially, when "authentic records" are available. Pieces of a jigsaw seems to fit.
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| Apr 24, 2007 @ 10:05 PM |
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Angel54214
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It is your personal belief that the bible is the truth and other writings are false. I give all writings the benefit of the doubt.
I NEVER EVER said this...quote a post of mine that I did! and I will quote a post of yours that you called Clement's writings hearsay and then use this man's writing in another post for your own benefit of believing a goddess created the world.
In fact, I remember telling about my historical library I own and have learned much from these historians. You attacked me and accused me of christian dogma! Remember?? You are like night and day sail.
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| Apr 24, 2007 @ 10:08 PM |
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12knots
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"ANGEL" 
 You sounded like Bev!
This thread is about the Tomb of Jesus. No arguing in here! BOTH OF YOU!
Be  This is a Holy place with respect and reverence.
No joke!
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| Apr 24, 2007 @ 10:08 PM |
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jamminjerry
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such a location matters only to the simians. it would be a symbolic victory should they all agreed on a single site. as i mentioned earlier, those red letters mean life and death to me. where some cup or shroud is located here is irrelavant to me. we be jammin
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| Apr 24, 2007 @ 10:14 PM |
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sail_dancer
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Angel,
It wasn't an attack, it was a conclusion based on how you presented your information. You obviously were using these posts to discredit the theme subject.
I would never attack you, you are one of the few christian posters that try to limit the conflicts in these threads.
That doesn't mean that I agree with all of your posts.
My post was not to be malicious but to explain my take on your posts.
Peace
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| Apr 24, 2007 @ 10:16 PM |
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Angel54214
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I understand "12", but when I am being accused or misjudged, I am going to push right back, I tired of it! I tired of the false Jesus followers; those Pharisees and hypercrites taking the beauty out of a warm heart and the Holy Sacred scriptures just cause they enjoy laughing at those that understand the word of God. And Jesus did die just where He said He would. He was buried where He said He would be; In Joseph's tomb in Jeruselem! Many ancient manuscripts tell us from the origin source, eye witnesses and from God Himself.
Now pick that all about like a chicken leg sail and storm! Hypercrites! Pharisees!
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