| May 19, 2007 @ 10:25 AM |
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kjac

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Why is it that not only in televangelists, but in common everyday people that the ones who preach the loudest about who needs "God" in their life are the ones who abandon their own religion?
These people are often spiteful to any who disagree with them, push their religion on people who they know do not believe in their mythologies, and are the biggest transgressors of the sins they so happily call others on.
I'm not talking about the everyday Christians who mind their own business. I'm talking about the ones I see in life and on here whose lives consist of constant boasting, the lack of respect for other beliefs, and the constant belittling of people.
They cite instances of radicals to tell everyone that all Muslims are evil, yet feel insulted when someone does the same to Christians. They preach about how abortion is wrong because it's murder, yet support the death penalty and call for Holy War. They blame school violence on atheism, while never once asking if the shooters believed in God.
Could someone out there please explain?
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| May 19, 2007 @ 10:57 AM |
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yashaenka


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People of that ilk are filled with fear and desperately need to cling to something and also fill a void [emptiness] in their lives and existence. I am speaking of the radicals within every system that put forth blind speak of any dogma and just are not rational because they cannot accept any other concept as then they would be totally destroyed.
One can not single Holy rollers out alone, for others do it by different methods such as witnessing by knocking on your door, or holding signs that say the end is near, the end of what? Others do it by traveling tent revivals where they use Mesmerisms technique of self auto hypnosis that is viewed as a variation of collective hysteria. When you work people up to a frenzy and mop rule results where people follow blindly to bring vigilantly justice the politicos label it mass hysteria but in religion it is accepted.
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| May 19, 2007 @ 11:42 AM |
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jamminjerry

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logic implies that when they sin and repent it will be loud enuff in both cases that the sheep will write a bigger check.
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| May 19, 2007 @ 12:09 PM |
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Angel54214

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When the weak heart of man refuses to strengthen, then the mind casts its remnant of a fool. ~ Angel ~
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| May 19, 2007 @ 12:42 PM |
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hammertime

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Kind of gives a better understanding of what "Fool for Christ" really means.
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| May 19, 2007 @ 1:02 PM |
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kjac

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Is it possible that the reason they are so loud and abrasive about their belief is that they are unsure themselves? That they are not trying to convince the masses, but convince themselves? I wonder this every time they commit the sins they speak against.
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| May 19, 2007 @ 1:07 PM |
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12knots

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I think they get a high on the feel good factor or rapture. There is no doubt they begin to feel good about themselves as they get into the brainwashing scripts. Then it grabs them!!!!!
They get high. In so doing they have to feed their habit. Habit built on ignorance and delusion. Only a firm grounding in truth can, with a little help and kick up the backside will they get down and back to a straight path.
Something like that...
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| May 19, 2007 @ 1:55 PM |
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yashaenka


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Group speak and group think or Collective wisdom that provides Lemmings to the sea.
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| May 19, 2007 @ 4:35 PM |
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stormbay

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It's called egocentric psychopathy, a malignant mental disease dormant within us all, just like cancer.
The triggers are an inability to perceive truth, fear of failure and a desperation to be noticed no matter what. It also arises in those who have a preponderance to victim mentality, (mental cannon fodder).
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| May 19, 2007 @ 4:52 PM |
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hammertime

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victim mentality I've always imagined if anyone never heard of the Christ story such as some alien visiting earth and saw a cross in a church or anywhere would be initially horrified. I often did as a child. Perhaps I'm not from this planet either but it seems to me that this would appeal psychologically to oppressed peoples. Since all people suffer, some far more than others, this seems like an escape from reality that one man-god takes on the suffering of the world. Yet no one's personal suffering is eased in the slightest but only made worse from resulting barbaric wars and forced dogma.
The world suffers and continues to suffer. See Darfur.
Mother Theresa promoted suffering of those she supposedly cared for to relate to the Christ like figure. She just might wind up being made a Saint.
Symeon the Stylite lived for 37 years on a small platform on top of a pillar in Syria all the while his body rotted and decayed. He was made a Saint.
This is sick theology.
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| May 19, 2007 @ 5:04 PM |
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jamminjerry

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hammer, your last statement created "food for thought". you touched on the beleif of the pseudos that Jesus died for their sins, therefore if he actually died for my sins i will be judged only for my "good works"? and, in being judged for good works logic implies that it will decide my position in the supposed hiearchy? because i do recall that Peter is watching the gate, and of course from the outside because if Jesus does not know him, how will you "enter" the gates of heaven. LOL
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| May 19, 2007 @ 6:00 PM |
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Angel54214

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Mother Theresa promoted suffering of those she supposedly cared for to relate to the Christ like figure. She just might wind up being made a Saint. Hammer, you really should know the accomplishments of Mother Theresa for she aided to the suffering not promoted to it...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Theresa
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| May 19, 2007 @ 6:07 PM |
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12knots

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Mother Theresa
If God exists then surely Mother Theresa deserves to be beside him. If not, the Buddha will grab her quick
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| May 19, 2007 @ 8:06 PM |
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Angel54214

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"12"
I admired her for giving up that awarded $6K to the poor and sick children and when she rescued those 37 children trapped in the war.
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| May 19, 2007 @ 8:21 PM |
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stormbay

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I admired her for giving up that awarded $6K to the poor and sick children and when she rescued those 37 children trapped in the war.
Angel, don't go to overboard with Mother Theresa. She wasn't what they made her out to be. Like all those who have been deified, there are very dark clouds standing behind her.
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| May 19, 2007 @ 8:52 PM |
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kattsmeow

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The criticism that Mother Teresa faced, especially in non-Christian countries, was that the ultimate goal of her work was to proselytize. The Hindu priests at a Kali temple were unhappy when Mother and the Sisters began their work at Nirmal Hriday in Kalighat close to the temple. Then something happened that brought about a complete change of heart. Mother heard that one of the priests of the temple was dying of an infectious disease and nobody would touch him. She collected his emaciated body in her arms and brought him to her home. The local people asked her to stay. A Hindu priest of the temple said to her with folded hands, "for thirty years I have worshipped the goddess Kali in stone, but today the goddess Mother stands before me alive. ” —Joly, Chaliah eds. “ Spread love everywhere you go: first of all in your own house. Give love to your children, to your wife or husband, to a next door neighbor... Let no one ever come to you without leaving better and happier. Be the living expression of God's kindness; kindness in your face, kindness in your eyes, kindness in your smile, kindness in your warm greeting.
Mother Teresa
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| May 19, 2007 @ 8:57 PM |
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sealacamp

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Amen Katt. Great info on a great person that represented Jesus Christ to the world.
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| May 19, 2007 @ 9:15 PM |
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stormbay

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I think you should read about the real Teresa from those that worked with her and lived in the immediate area. She was a propaganda machine and most of the things attribute to her, she wasn't even involved with. This can be proved quite categorically. Post what you believe she did and I'm happy to show you the truth from actual witnesses, even nuns who worked for and with here.
She was a false propaganda machine without substance, just like all of monotheistic assertions.
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| May 19, 2007 @ 9:34 PM |
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kjac

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So Storm, are you saying Mother Teresa was a Holy Roller Hypocrite?
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| May 19, 2007 @ 9:39 PM |
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Angel54214

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I know about Keating's Lincoln Savings and Loans scandal that Mother Theresa accepted high amount of money from him as a donation to the poor. She wrote a letter to the Judge at the time since it was in trial. Nothing else came of her on this though.
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