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Jul 28, 2007 @ 5:07 PM Are there any Catholics in the house?    
kjac


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Do Catholics believe Jesus was/is god?
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Jul 28, 2007 @ 5:21 PM Are there any Catholics in the house?    
vinny_53


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So catholics still have a saint with the head of a dog. Sounds more like an egyrtian god than a saint.

Peace
sail......you are so off base here....you are taking things out of context again....




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Christopher

Saint Christopher (Greek: ????? ???st?f????) was a saint venerated by Roman Catholics and Orthodox Christians, listed as a martyr killed in the reign of the 3rd century Roman emperor Decius (reigned 249 - 251). He was the patron saint of travelers. St Christopher's feast day was removed from the universal calendar of Saints by the Vatican in 1969 due to lack of historical evidence that that saint existed and lived a life of holiness.[1] The feast remains on local calendars (such as diocesan or national calendars) on July 25........
He is still considered to be a saint in the Catholic Church.

Roman Catholic view
One legend states that Christopher was a very tall and physical Roman man, originally named Reprobus, who was referred to as a giant by those who knew him, and vowed to serve Jesus and became a Christian. Other sources say his name was Offero, and that he was born in Canaan.[2] He sought out a Christian hermit to inquire as to how he could better serve Jesus. The hermit directed him to a path with a dangerous crossing point at a swift river, and suggested that the man's great size and strength made him a good candidate to assist people in crossing the river. Reprobus began ferrying people across the river on his back.

One day, a small child approached the river and asked to be carried across. Reprobus began to comply, only to discover that the small boy was far heavier than any other passenger he had taken. The child revealed that he was in fact Jesus Christ, and that his unusual weight was due to the fact that he bore the sins of the world. The boy (Jesus) then baptized Reprobus in the river, and he acquired his new name, Christopher, which is Greek for "Christ-carrier" (from Christos, "Christ", and pherein, meaning "to bear").[2]

The child then told Christopher to plant his staff in the ground. The staff miraculously bloomed into a fruit-bearing tree. This miracle converted many. Enraged at these conversions, a local king (or by some accounts, the emperor Decius) had Christopher imprisoned, where, after cruel tortures, he was beheaded as a martyr......

Eastern Orthodox view

Saint Christopher is sometimes represented with the head of a dog.During the reign of the Emperor Decius, a man named Reprebus (or Reprobus) was captured in combat against tribes to the west of Egypt and was assigned to the numerus Marmaritarum or "Unit of the Marmaritae", which suggests an otherwise-unidentified "Marmaritae" Berber tribe of Cyrenaica. He was of enormous size and terrifying demeanor, being a cannibal with cynocephaly (the head of a dog instead of a man), like all the Marmaritae.........................

......The first hurdle to consider is the idea that he was a dog-headed cannibal. This can be understood in the light that the surviving accounts of St. Christopher are contemporaneous. The practice of the time was to describe all people outside the "civilized" (Greco-Roman-Persian) world as cannibals, dog-headed, or even more bizarre things, albeit often metaphorically. A later generation could then mistake a metaphor or hyperbole for a literal statement.

However, the man in question is also said to have been assigned to a military unit made up of Marmaritae. The Marmaritae were the independent tribes of Marmarica (now in modern Libya), who would have been pushed to the frontier region after Roman settlement. Since he was from a frontier tribe, describing him as being from the land of dog-headed people would have been a literary convention of the day.
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Jul 28, 2007 @ 5:21 PM Are there any Catholics in the house?    
Heaveninawildflower


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C&P from a catechism web site:

Church thus confesses that Jesus is inseparably true God and true man. He is truly the Son of God who, without ceasing to be God and Lord, became a man

Catechism of the Catholic Church

And Vinny - thanks, I should have given more detail.
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Jul 28, 2007 @ 5:37 PM Are there any Catholics in the house?    
vinny_53


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no problem Heaven..I knew where you were coming from ... Sail took it and ran with it...
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Jul 28, 2007 @ 6:52 PM Are there any Catholics in the house?    
kjac


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So is that a yes or no to my question heaven? The quote you gave implies both.
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Jul 28, 2007 @ 6:54 PM Are there any Catholics in the house?    
sail_dancer


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Vinny,

So catholics still have a saint with the head of a dog. Sounds more like an egyrtian god than a saint.

Peace
sail......you are so off base here....you are taking things out of context again....

All I did was comment on Heaven's post. I thought that Saint Christopher was no longer a saint. I never heard the story of his being dog headed and thought it strange that catholics would, being that he had the head of a dog, still consider him as a saint.

Where was I way off base?

By the way, thanks for the cut and paste on the topic.

Peace
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Jul 28, 2007 @ 6:59 PM Are there any Catholics in the house?    
Heaveninawildflower


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So is that a yes or no to my question heaven? The quote you gave implies both.

That would be a yes - as Saint Patrick taught using the shamrock, the trinity consists of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost - three parts of the single entity.

(eek, I still remember all this stuff...)
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Jul 28, 2007 @ 7:18 PM Are there any Catholics in the house?    
kjac


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Thanks for clearing that up. I won't pretend to understand the reasoning behind the answer, but thanks for giving it.

Do Catholics hold St. Patricks day in any special regard?
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Jul 28, 2007 @ 7:56 PM Are there any Catholics in the house?    
eastham


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Not that any saint is unimportant, but different countries celebrate different saint's feasts. It's usually tied to the ethnicity or even regional birthplace/area of the saint in question. A few saints are very big transnationally -- Patrick, Jude, St. Francis of Assisi, St. Anthony, etc.
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Jul 29, 2007 @ 10:38 AM Are there any Catholics in the house?    
kjac


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I heard that Mel Gibson was Catholic. Is that true?
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Jul 29, 2007 @ 11:45 AM Are there any Catholics in the house?    
BandTMom


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Yes he is, K.
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Mar 23 @ 6:02 PM Are there any Catholics in the house?    
misschoos


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Would the church accept a Catholic marrying an atheist?

The Catholic Church will not marry a Catholic who is marrying a non Catholic within a Catholic church.

Why do you ask?





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Mar 23 @ 6:05 PM Are there any Catholics in the house?    
Heaveninawildflower


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Miss...my mom was a Catholic and married my Lutheran dad in a Catholic church...he had to promise to raise any offspring as Catholics first, but that's the only special requirement I'm aware of.
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Mar 23 @ 6:08 PM Are there any Catholics in the house?    
kjac


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Why do you ask?

It doesn't matter now. This thread no longer has bearing. But if I ever start dating a good little Catholic girl again, I'll be sure to revive this thread with more questions.
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Mar 23 @ 6:11 PM Are there any Catholics in the house?    
SweetNapaGuy


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Am I the only person who finds it ironic that this thread got resurrected on Easter Sunday?
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Mar 23 @ 6:12 PM Are there any Catholics in the house?    
Heaveninawildflower


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I had to laugh cuz I just posted the Nicene Creed in another thread, it could just as well have been posted here and been a lot clearer than my answer was. Next time I'll remember!
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Mar 23 @ 6:13 PM Are there any Catholics in the house?    
misschoos


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Miss...my mom was a Catholic and married my Lutheran dad in a Catholic church...he had to promise to raise any offspring as Catholics first, but that's the only special requirement I'm aware of.

Interesting.

Before I added my reply here, I questioned this with a friend of mine a Catholic in Ireland.

I also had seen your earlier statement about raising offspring in the Catholic faith.

She reassured me that the Catholic Church will not marry a Catholic and a non Catholic in a Catholic church.

I married a Catholic and we were not allowed to be married in a Catholic church.




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Mar 23 @ 6:16 PM Are there any Catholics in the house?    
kjac


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Could it be that the question you two are discussing is a local church matter?
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Mar 23 @ 6:16 PM Are there any Catholics in the house?    
Heaveninawildflower


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Maybe the rules have changed, or may vary in different dioceses. Actually, I think the diocese theory is ringinjg a bell...someone who moved in order to accomplish what they wanted is buzzing around my brain, but no specifics...that may have related to annulment but if one is true, the other may be as well.



Just saw K's post - yep, I think that may be it indeed...not that I think that's any way to run an airline, but I left the religion decades ago anyway.
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Mar 23 @ 6:18 PM Are there any Catholics in the house?    
misschoos


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It doesn't matter now. This thread no longer has bearing. But if I ever start dating a good little Catholic girl again, I'll be sure to revive this thread with more questions.

Oh, so you were considering dating a Catholic?

Your thread has no information about dating Catholic women.

You should have added that to your thread title.


This thread has bearing for me with regard to the original questions and title.

It's still here, and remember, we shouldn't create any unnecessary threads.
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