| Aug 31, 2007 @ 6:31 PM |
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jamminjerry

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the holy roller rooms have literally died. have the threats of the MODs skeered everybody off? or have the complaints of the zealots irritated the MODs into making threats? perhaps the MODs might reconsider the proverbial "free speech" aspect of our constitution and might (i said might) consider allowing an open forum. when i use the term monkey it is not referring to the color of ones skin, it is referring to Darwins theory of evolution. when i say holy roller of course it is referring to someone who literally rolls their eyes, rolls their poop, and rolls everyone else into a single group who is wrong! being a Jesus "freak" i could fall into the holy roller catagory. whoa!! so, why is there weeping and gnashing of teeth each time i surplant some blasphemy of John or Paul with the words of Jesus! LOL i implore the MOD gods to allow a bit more freedom of speech here. perhaps the MOD gods will allow a democratic approach to settling differences. i want to cast my vote. for or against. the MODs can fabricate some anal reason for deleting a thread! LOL but our votes should count. irrerguardless what the "religious and spirituality" subject might be, it should be allowed to die from lack of support. ex: "the end times according to Jesus". the revelations of St John the divine apparently carry far more weight than my Teacher's words! LOL ok, lets see if the MODs are going to be leinent? we be jammin
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| Aug 31, 2007 @ 6:49 PM |
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Gallows_Humor

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Jammin..you certainly have a style ...but what in this ^^ thread^^ is relevant to this forum??
If you look around and find that everyone else has left... then it is you...
there are several threads here where great debate is happening..clear logical understandable debate.. void of attacks.. funny terms..and innuendo
The Mods have a hard enough job as it is..why add to their problem?
Might I suggest that you say exactly what you mean ..without ambiguous stylized terms..and let this forum proceed in a civil way?? for the good of everyone here..
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| Aug 31, 2007 @ 6:56 PM |
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sealacamp

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Might I suggest that you say exactly what you mean ..without ambiguous stylized terms..and let this forum proceed in a civil way?? I agree with that. In addition Judas was a zealot. Be careful with your terms you never know who they apply to.
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| Aug 31, 2007 @ 7:17 PM |
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SunBabe

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What the heck have the "MODS" ever done but ask people to tone it down and not attack each other personally?
And since when has this site ever been a constitutional democracy?
Frankly, I think the mods have been MORE than leinient -- they apparently let everyone kill off each other which is what kills off threads.
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| Aug 31, 2007 @ 7:36 PM |
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BandTMom

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Sunny!
And there has been very little conflict lately.
[Edited on 8/31/2007 9:20 PM]
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| Aug 31, 2007 @ 7:38 PM |
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Martin666

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"...and the crowd watched in horror as the thread careened off the road and rocketed into the bottomless gorge."
:)
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| Aug 31, 2007 @ 7:41 PM |
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BandTMom

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| Aug 31, 2007 @ 8:22 PM |
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hammertime

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I'm guessing they all got raptured away but that's happened before. Eventually they return and wait for the next rapture.

[Edited on 8/31/2007 8:40 PM]
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| Aug 31, 2007 @ 9:21 PM |
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BandTMom

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do you think that's what caused the wreck??
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| Aug 31, 2007 @ 10:06 PM |
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ForumMod

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i don't recall any 'complaints of the zealots' having any effect on any decisions made by this mod. or complaints by anybody else, either.
getting po'd at peoples behavior, no matter what their beliefs or thoughts, is what ticks this mod off. sometimes a thread will be closed, other times rude, inappropriate or off-topic posts will be deleted, sometimes a 'warning' or 'reminder' will be posted and sometimes someone will get a personal note.
we couldn't care less what you believe (meaning anybody), only how you act toward one another on our public pages (which is owned by a company, btw, and not subject to first amendment rights. think of it as a dictatorship which offers you the priviledge of posting your thoughts, until they cross the 'civil' line )
the bottom line is that this will not be turned into an unmoderated website or forum.
the funny thing is that you're bringing this up now, accusing us of not allowing an 'open forum' and that's why the threads are dead or dying? well how about you think about the fact that none of the mods hardly ever come into this forum any more? (it can be too stressful or annoying and nobody listens for long, anyhow. ) so you've pretty much had your 'open forum' all along, for several months, lol.
why not start your own threads, jamminjerry? but please (only a suggestion) try to make them understandable, not 'cryptic'. people would be more apt to (quite willing, i'm sure) discuss things with you if they only knew what you were saying.
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| Aug 31, 2007 @ 10:09 PM |
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BandTMom

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Mod!
I was wondering what prompted this thread as most of us have been really good.
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| Sep 1, 2007 @ 12:11 AM |
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kattsmeow

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| Sep 1, 2007 @ 1:23 AM |
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Angel54214

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the revelations of St John the divine apparently carry far more weight than my Teacher's words! Well Jerry, Angel 1 seems to demise you missed many of Jesus' words that you rebuttle with a two edge sword. Quietly listen....and you will hear him:
REVELATIONS 1:1-2 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. 
St. John was the very vehicle Jesus used to transport his word from heaven to earth. And that was a valuable weight of Grace.
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| Sep 1, 2007 @ 9:18 AM |
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sail_dancer

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Angel,
St. John was the very vehicle Jesus used to transport his word from heaven to earth. And that was a valuable weight of Grace. And since a delusional old man, isolated on an island, wrote this, you believe him. I'm missing something here. Why is it that christians take John's word for truth? Is it because it is what you want to beleive is the truth?
If John prophetized this today, he would be considered delusional and probably institutionalized. How can you substantiate his words? Where is there supporting scripture that supports that Jesus chose John to be the person to "...bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw."
Again you are relying on a man's ramblings.
Peace
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| Sep 1, 2007 @ 11:28 AM |
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ServantOfChrist2

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Angel, Please correct me if I'm mistaken, but I believe that you believe that John's writings were the inspired Word of God. (And not merely the ramblings of an old man. As some would suggest.) Further to this, I believe your faith in the reality of such delusional ideas, is the cornerstone of your relationship with God--through Jesus Christ. But please, do correct me if I'm wrong.
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| Sep 1, 2007 @ 11:58 AM |
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Angel54214

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"Servant" ...and my Revelation has many words in red too!
btw, I ignore old men's ramblings that have no wisdom or understanding
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| Sep 1, 2007 @ 12:35 PM |
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| Sep 1, 2007 @ 12:49 PM |
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sail_dancer

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SOC,
You ramble but still fail to explain why you base your life on the dreams of an old cloistered man that was probably delerious at the time.
Who determined that Revelation was the word of God? Did God put the bible together and hand it to man? or Did men write scriptures and then another body of men decide which scriptures were really God's words? Who decided which men were inspired by God to choose which scriptures to include or exclude from the bible?
As far as I know, based on history, a non-christian (Constantine) determined the men God inspired to compile the bible. Are you saying that the contents of the bible were not determined during the Council of Nicaea?
Wake up and smell the roses!
Until you can answer these questions, you cannot support your statements.
Peace
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| Sep 1, 2007 @ 1:33 PM |
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ServantOfChrist2

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Why do you continually say Peace? While it is an admirable philosophy, in practice, it often seems to elude you.
The foundation of my life is based on the words of several people, (both from the O.T. and the new); because my faith tells me that these writings are God's Word. I believe He wanted the human race to know that certain things originated with Him. I believe He has a plan for the human race. And I further believe that this plan contains an outline for every person's life. Even you. I believe that He inspired the writing of the Holy Bible...even to the point of inspiring those who decided which writings were to be included in what was to become known as The Word Of God.
Evidently you do not share this faith. Consequently I have misgivings about sharing the Peace you so casually offer.
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| Sep 1, 2007 @ 1:37 PM |
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sealacamp

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And until you can explain the power of the Holy Spirit leads into all truth, or Jesus is Gods son yet when you see Him you see the father as well, or that when you surrender you live, give up and life will be yours, or how anything the bible states could be, or not be. Then your assertions are illegitimate and empty.
S
BTW the paradoxical issues that are stated as real in the bible are a very long list and go from one end to the other. Just another attempt to undermine the work of the spirit. Something you just can't refrain from since you have chosen the opposite side.
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