| Jan 14 @ 10:08 PM |
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uncrazy
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Taking only a few ideas from the bible, I'll pick four. 1)My body is a temple of the living God, 2)Jesus's death cleared the sins of the world, 3)the kingdom of God is within, 4)Don't you know that you are Gods.
Holding these beliefs as true within me, my life will be pleasant...if I talk about this many will come to save me. Some will say I misunderstood, some will call me dillusional, others will say I am possessed. Many churches might tell me I'd be welcome their, but I suspect they would be more comfortable if I remained quiet and they knew the baby christians were safe from me. They could pray for me, see that I get mental health services, or schedule exorcism. It might be safer not to be know and keep me and my beliefs in the closet.And really, how much harm can a closet Christian cause other people in the world.
I offer this thread not so more verse can be posted, but so we can speak of the practicing of our beliefs in the world we create around us. I offer it in light-heartedness, for I've learned that gathering knowledge is easy, living with it in my daily life is the art.
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| Jan 14 @ 10:53 PM |
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madamegeek
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In reading your post, I thought of the definition for "lighthearted:Not being burdened by trouble, worry, or care; happy and carefree".
I thought of how it ought to also apply to the reflecting of light back on others from a generous heart - as you suggest.
I couldn't possibly manage four guidelines, so I choose one tenet: I will do unto others....as I would have done unto me (as light-laden as possible, of course)
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| Jan 14 @ 11:37 PM |
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kattsmeow
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This is a good thread. I know the white coats watch me very closely,, 
It is almost time for my brain to shut down, it has worked very hard today to find the right words to post in here. I think this is going to be a good one and I thank you!
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| Jan 15 @ 5:21 AM |
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bevrice
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Now, un, I don't go to any church who would think you were crazy, or be afraid to have you around their baby Christians. What you just said is all most babies know, too. Any good church would love you to come, and would just leave the rest of your salvation up to God, the Holy Spirit, Jesus.
Now, if you really believe that, lol, you have one foot in the door already.
Now, if I went to church and said I believed in reincarnation, channeling, buddha, and meditation.......................then they might think I needed deliverance, and want me to be quiet, but then, they would prob let me talk because everyone, even the babies know better than that.
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| Jan 15 @ 12:05 PM |
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kattsmeow
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Uncrazy, just so I understand, what are you asking here, or wanting from us.
offer this thread not so more verse can be posted, but so we can speak of the practicing of our beliefs in the world we create around us
From the above quote, are you asking what we do every day?
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| Jan 15 @ 12:14 PM |
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yashaenka
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Uncrazy, I have been involved with many real time in person forums where Philosophy and Theology are discussed by all clergy, learned members of the cloth where there are Catholics, Protestant, Buddhist, Taoist, and Islam members present. These learned members never argue or debate instead they try to understand the others viewpoints.
It is when you get down to the lay pretenders that arguments are created caused by their own ignorance of interpreting their own faith. Learned people are secure in their system of belief and treat others opinions as a intellectual exchange something that a lay person is not secure in doing.
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| Jan 16 @ 12:40 AM |
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carpediem48
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Yash I would agree,,,,,'almost'
How about if we define the term 'learned' a bit more closely?
The most important 'knowledge' is ones own knowledge of oneself
For example,,,the knowledge that ,,,when,,,,we point just ONE finger
at someone else
there are three fingers in our hand
pointing,,,back,,,at 'ourselves'
Uncrazy,,,I 'sense' something refreshing about your original post
even tho I couldn't connect to all four statements equally
My simple response is,,,,I simply want to practice 'love'
without compromising my
belief journey
Just really do 'feel' like walking the 'love'walk,,,,,,,,
that's all,  ,,just
11th commandment stuff,,,(1st Corinthians 13)
and everything else just 'flows' naturally
I am grateful that this site gives me plenty of opportunity to 'practice' 
[Edited on 1/16/2008 12:56 AM]
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| Jan 20 @ 2:09 AM |
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uncrazy
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NapaGuys' earlier post on the "Misrepresented" thread about "by our actions others will know us" got me thinking. Our words don't say who we are, but our actions do in how we treat one another. And so we don't allow drifting into exclusions, I suspect this doesn't mean just christians acting to each other to show they are christians. I see this in how I treat all others that pass me, and in the general thinking well of all others. Someone quoted a verse that said what goes in me does not defile man, only what come out of my mouth. Living according to the loving principles in any of the holy books is more difficult than memorizing text.
Giving thought to MisterMatt's question of we being charged to forgive 70 times 7 hints to me that this is a very important behavior or habit we are to work on implementing into our daily lives. This is 490 times I am to forgive. If I look at the world around me I must say that the universe has not devoted enough attention to me to send 490 folks over to violate me mentally, emotionally, or physically. If it has I would have to label myself a near perfect victim. It is only a small leap for me to consider that I am the likely one creating a need for so much forgiving and most of it comes out of my own mind. When I link the idea to the saying that I shouldn't judge(and discerment is not mentioned as a condition to allow it) , it begins to make a bit of sense. The moment I judge you, I declare you wrong. I may be the only one to see your wrong so I am the one who needs to forgive you. I might hold back, decide your behavior is unforgivable even to God for a number of reasons...I can say I'm much better than you. I can think that I am in God's favor and you are not, or I can damage you by telling all my neighbors about it as a rumor because telling rumors make me look powerful and righteous to them. Forgiving you safeguards me against bad behavior.
I'm not proposing in this that I'm to remain silent to law enforcement of violation of laws that physically harm others. Much harm has come from the secrets we keep safe in our families that remain secrets. Yet even after acting responsibly in my community, I can forgive and not pass judgement with my rumors.
Living to express the law of love in all things to all around me is the hard part...something I will not likely be perfect in even with long practice, but I can make progress.
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| Jan 22 @ 11:38 AM |
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yashaenka
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Carp, learned id, one who is knowledgeable about all belief systems as they are presented and a scholar even a religious one seeks where differing beliefs are similar looking beyond the differences.
The less one knows about other belief systems or the less that they have looked for proof themselves in what is postulated from within their own faith, the more resistant they are and less tolerant of other religions that is due to their own ignorance.
Theologians like the Jesuits for example are religious scholars who are learned and open.
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| Jan 22 @ 11:44 AM |
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yashaenka
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Uncrazy replace the word love, with Acceptance by others. Acceptance of oneself and others to be what you are and to be what they are.
One can love another for many differing reasons without totally Accepting them in all they think, say or do. But if you Accept another for their right to think and be as they are that is all encompassing.
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