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Feb 9 @ 8:55 PM To thy own self be true!    
Thor1960303


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Yash, but I can't hear the words "To thine own self be true" without thinking of that episode of Gilligan's Island when the castaways made a musical of Hamlet.

Don't feel bad.I was just thinking of a Star Trek character,Zefram Cochrane,inventor of warp drive who's big quote was,"Don't worry about being a great man,just be a man and let history makes it's own judgement."
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Feb 9 @ 9:07 PM To thy own self be true!    
Angel54214


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I think Charles Manson said similar in his interview with Geraldo a few years ago.
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Feb 10 @ 1:09 AM To thy own self be true!    
hunt4luv


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sounds like you are Promoting the Origional Sin that constituted The fall of man.
This is pure Foolishness.
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Feb 10 @ 1:56 AM To thy own self be true!    
Skydognc


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^^^^^
This is pure Foolishness.

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Feb 10 @ 11:09 AM To thy own self be true!    
BandTMom


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How about a nice poem?

Invictus

OUT of the night that covers me,
Black as the Pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.

In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.

Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds, and shall find, me unafraid.

It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul.

---William Ernest Henley
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Feb 10 @ 12:50 PM To thy own self be true!    
Angel54214


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Thanks mom! I have one too that I wrote years ago:

~ Thousand Eyes ~

They all became a dagger

Forcing me to the cutting edge;

Those piercing thousand eyes

Searching eagerly & quickly;

Gentle vision came to rescue

Then I became a thousand two-

~ Angel ~

[Edited on 2/10/2008 1:01 PM]
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Feb 10 @ 12:52 PM To thy own self be true!    
BandTMom


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Feb 12 @ 9:50 AM To thy own self be true!    
yashaenka


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To Thine Own Self Be True

Yet here, Laertes! Aboard, aboard for shame!
The wind sits in the shoulder of your sail,
And you are stay'd for.
There ... my blessing with thee!
And these few precepts in thy memory
Look thou character. Give thy thoughts no tongue,
Nor any unproportion'd thought his act.
Be thou familiar, but by no means vulgar.
Those friends thou hast, and their adoption tried,
Grapple them to thy soul with hoops of steel;
But do not dull thy palm with entertainment
Of each new-hatch'd, unfledg’d comrade. Beware
Of entrance to a quarrel but, being in,
Bear't that th' opposed may beware of thee.
Give every man thy ear, but few thy voice;
Take each man's censure, but reserve thy judgement.
Costly thy habit as thy purse can buy,
But not express'd in fancy; rich, not gaudy;
For the apparel oft proclaims the man;
And they in France of the best rank and station
Are of a most select and generous chief in that.
Neither a borrower, nor a lender be;
For loan oft loses both itself and friend,
And borrowing dulls the edge of husbandry.
This above all: to thine own self be true,
And it must follow, as the night the day,
Thou canst not then be false to any man.
Farewell; my blessing season this in thee!

-- William Shakespeare

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Feb 12 @ 10:12 AM To thy own self be true!    
Heaveninawildflower


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This above all: to thine own self be true,
And it must follow, as the night the day,
Thou canst not then be false to any man.

From Hamlet...who in order to be true to himself, had to be false to every man...feigning madness to bring revenge on his father's murderer.
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Feb 12 @ 11:36 AM To thy own self be true!    
yashaenka


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feigning madness
Don't we all at times?
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Feb 12 @ 11:47 AM To thy own self be true!    
hammertime


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Some don't feign
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Feb 12 @ 1:03 PM To thy own self be true!    
madamegeek


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...unless they belong to the radical Sin(n) Fei(g)n
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Feb 12 @ 1:25 PM To thy own self be true!    
sealacamp


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Don't we all need to accept as the first premise: "If you do not get it from self, where ever will you find it?


No!

S
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Feb 12 @ 3:36 PM To thy own self be true!    
ServantOfChrist2


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Good to see you seal. God bless you.
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Feb 12 @ 5:57 PM To thy own self be true!    
hammertime


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There are unfortunate folks who have little or no insight into themselves and so they have a distorted self image. Thats similar to using a broken cracked mirror or the mirrors in a crazy house. They have no real way to see themselves other than to rely on some external source likely another individual who may also be damaged. Dysfunctional relationships are like this. Relationships between the hyper-religious are worse since their view on reality is very distorted.


[Edited on 2/12/2008 6:02 PM]
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Feb 12 @ 6:01 PM To thy own self be true!    
sealacamp


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There are unfortunate folks who have little or no insight into themselves and so they have a distorted self image.

You shouldn't talk about things that you don't understand. It makes you look foolish. And is what you say can have any authenticity then again you need a mirror and you will see exactly what you describe.

S
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Feb 12 @ 6:06 PM To thy own self be true!    
hammertime


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And thats a demonstration of such an individual who inspired me to write this:

There once was a troll who would post.
His mind was nothing but toast.

He came out of nowhere, went just to fart.
Only to break wind, and have us depart.




[Edited on 2/12/2008 6:07 PM]
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Feb 12 @ 6:07 PM To thy own self be true!    
sail_dancer


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Is Seal talking in tongues again?

Peace
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Feb 12 @ 6:11 PM To thy own self be true!    
ForumMod


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stop with the 'personal attacks'. discuss the topic, not each other!
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Feb 12 @ 6:20 PM To thy own self be true!    
hammertime


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Don't we all need to accept as the first premise: "If you do not get it from self, where ever will you find it?
Ultimately we get all from our internal selves. We use our senses and trained minds to judge, process and react to all sensory input. A mind is only a reflection of external reality and so it must be still and quiet like the reflection of the moon on a still pond. Any disturbance to the pond will distort the image just as a disturbed mind distorts reality.

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