| Feb 15, 2008 @ 2:49 PM |
Christianity has no choice but to fade out
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12knots
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When we see so many proclaim Christianity then we know that its existence is dying out because its recognition by the intelligent and aware world begin to see it for what it is, an ideology based on historical fact and fiction.
Proclamations of truth, God, Holy Spirits and such like all based on having a "faith" in its validity is weakest at best for the average Joe, for the weak minded a basis of order from self induced fear.
How can anyone find any "real" truth with such shaky grounds?
Buddhism on the other hand as just one better ideolgy in its first teachings make some pretty remarkable statements. "Truths" without faith. "The Four Noble Truths".
These truths, undeniable, under no pretense and under no illusion begin to guide us to absolute truths of all existence. Not even the ignorant can deny such truths. No false promises, no false Gods, no false teachings.
Even the very nature of ideologies such as Christianity and Buddhism will die in truth. It is the very foundation to seeking absolute truth. No question!
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| Feb 15, 2008 @ 4:11 PM |
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hunt4luv
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When the ark of the covenant was taken by the phillistines and placed in the place the philistines housed ther statues they called gods. The following morning the phillistines statues were found on their face before the alter.
Budaism promotes self and that which is earthly over god our Creator.
The nature of fallen mans original sin.
the same thing lucifer did that caused his downfall. pride is at the root of it.
Budda statues are just as week and empty against the God of all creation.
Like bael and elisha. cry to your god a little louder perhaps he is asleep.
Then after many barrels of water elisha called the fire down from heaven.
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| Feb 15, 2008 @ 4:27 PM |
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uncrazy
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The meaning of Baal in Hebrew and Egyptian translates to "master" and " the Lord". The danger of labeling other Gods false can undermine what I mean when I speak of my God. We each begin by having a God we call "the Lord", thentake our Gods to war on our flags to determine which God in greater, the vanquished is labeled evil and the cause of all troubles....winner temporarily takes it all.
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| Feb 15, 2008 @ 5:12 PM |
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sail_dancer
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Hunt,
Like bael and elisha. cry to your god a little louder perhaps he is asleep.
Then after many barrels of water elisha called the fire down from heaven. Can you reference anything that doesn't make your god out to be a warmonger?
As they say:Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war,
With the cross of Jesus going on before.
Christ, the royal Master, leads against the foe;
Forward into battle see His banners go!
Refrain
Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war,
With the cross of Jesus going on before.
At the sign of triumph Satan’s host doth flee;
On then, Christian soldiers, on to victory!
Hell’s foundations quiver at the shout of praise;
Brothers lift your voices, loud your anthems raise.
Refrain
What a wonderful peaceful group of people you are. Always ready to go to war and kill for your god. You even sing songs like this in the church of god!
Christian soldiers? Where did Jesus ever ask for an army to be built in his name? You make Jesus' ministry into a joke. Jesus' teaching of love and peace mean nothing to you. Your ego has gone wild and you think that violence is condoned because a book written by man tells you that your god is jealous and evil. Your god rewards people that kill and rape in his name.
Better reread the NT and Jesus' teachings. You are way off base thinking that Jesus condoned violence.
Peace
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| Feb 15, 2008 @ 5:20 PM |
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jimbo242
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We each begin by having a God we call "the Lord",
Not all of us......
Christianity will fade into oblivion before Islam and not because it is more valid. But because it has not been exposed to logic and science as long as christianity. Christianity is in the early stages of disappearing from the pressures of logic and science. It has resisted those areas for centuries. They can no longer demonize their progressive foe thus it will return to where it came....Small cults of crazy, superstitious, true believers
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| Feb 15, 2008 @ 5:31 PM |
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sealacamp
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Christianity is in the early stages of disappearing from the pressures of logic and science.
The roots of these concepts arose from God almighty, and His Son Jesus Christ. It has been said for two millennia that Christianity would disappear yet it is still here and far more resilient than you realize.
As for going to battle against satan and his hordes, which is what that song is about, there is nothing shameful about it. The shame is in allowing evil to flourish. All that is needed for evil to flourish is for good people to do nothing. As in most things in life there are two clear choices with unmistakable outcomes. Choose well!
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| Feb 15, 2008 @ 5:37 PM |
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jimbo242
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The shame is in allowing evil to flourish.
A serious question...what is evil? When answering please consider the past of the christian church....the wars for God. the witch hunts, etc. Was that evil?
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| Feb 15, 2008 @ 6:51 PM |
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jamminjerry
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it will not, only the pseudos jumping ship. LOL
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| Feb 15, 2008 @ 7:16 PM |
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12knots
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When the ark of the covenant was taken by the phillistines and placed in the place the philistines housed ther statues they called gods. The following morning the phillistines statues were found on their face before the alter.
Is this a fable? Story? or a fear induced nuance in nonsense.
Budaism promotes self and that which is earthly over god our Creator.
The nature of fallen mans original sin.
Not true at all. Either it is ignorance or a lie?
the same thing lucifer did that caused his downfall. pride is at the root of it.
Ut oh..... fear me.... fear me......
Budda statues are just as week and empty against the God of all creation.
Again, ignorance. No understanding and worse still no understanding of ones own Christian faith. Isn't that sentence above so contradictory.......? Just look at it... "God of all creation" so what about.... "Budda statues are just as week and empty" (cant even spell Buddha correctly..... *sigh) Who created Buddha staues?
Like bael and elisha. cry to your god a little louder perhaps he is asleep.
Then after many barrels of water elisha called the fire down from heaven.
...and your point?
Again, instead of trying to defend a lost course, seek truth and wisdom and with a little bit of compassion too!!!!
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| Feb 15, 2008 @ 7:20 PM |
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12knots
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The roots of these concepts arose from God almighty, and His Son Jesus Christ. It has been said for two millennia that Christianity would disappear yet it is still here and far more resilient than you realize.
Has been surviving and only just at times through fear and evil. Even at this time it survives mainly through ignorance, the worst kind of evil.
Look at all the third world countries today and how they came about. Mainly through Christian based whoring and war-ing. As the years go by the numbers are more and more coming from third world countries other than modernised man.
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| Feb 15, 2008 @ 7:21 PM |
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Jankia
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You could hope it fades out but sorry the truth is Christianity's world growth rate is 19 million per year.
The church has grown more in the 20th century than in all the previous 19 centuries since the time of Christ combined, with almost 2 billion adherents worldwide. It isnt strange why so many that dislike Christianity always point to the wars and the hate of yesterday but dont ever consider the help and the love Christains give to this world today because of what we see right here...we know that its existence is dying out We? or You?
If Buddhism is all about the truth why isnt the truth seen instead of whats untrue to suit yourself? Isnt that denial?
Not even the ignorant can deny such truths
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| Feb 15, 2008 @ 7:22 PM |
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BandTMom
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Mainline Christianity is based in fear and ignorance. Fear of facing eternal damnation and ignorance of the fact that Jesus did not teach this.
Jesus taught compassion, kindness, love, and seeking wisdom. Too bad his teachings have be lost in the dogma of denominations.
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| Feb 15, 2008 @ 7:30 PM |
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jimbo242
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Jesus taught compassion, kindness, love, and seeking wisdom. Too bad his teachings have be lost in the dogma of denominations.
Assuming Jesus was for real and not a myth...do any christians think he would like what has been done in his name?
No one answered my evil question.......
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| Feb 15, 2008 @ 7:33 PM |
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BandTMom
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I would, Jim, but I think you know what my answer would be. 
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| Feb 15, 2008 @ 7:33 PM |
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Jankia
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Too bad his teachings have be lost in the dogma of denominations.  If that is true,I'd be interested in knowing where the teachings of Jesus are lost in the Methodist denomination.
Please tell me,how so? I know it isnt based on fear and ignorance unless you can tell me why you say that it is.
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| Feb 15, 2008 @ 7:35 PM |
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BandTMom
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Because of the simple fact that you have to have a "Methodist denomination".
If their weren't dogma, there would be no denominations.
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| Feb 15, 2008 @ 7:49 PM |
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uncrazy
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Jimbo,
I shall answer...both are labeled evil...both done in God's name. I will not serve an unloving God...I only had to put down the idea that the holy books are inerrant to let go of any need to defend the bad behavior it documents. The kingdom of God is within...I search for him there. The eastern disciplines may ultimately be found useful in the search, since the western mind has no real skills to look within. As a christian I was taught to never look within...it was the place of the devil. Odd, the teachings the holy men gave me
I have a deep gnawing that the great fear of all the monotheist religions is the discovery that man is and always has been innocent. For those declaring that the reason for the sacrifice was to wash away sin...let it be true. Discontinue adding the "except for" and "ya buts"...let the truth if it is the truth stand without your qualifications that re-declare your God unloving.
Perhaps Thomas Jefferson's bible, comprising about 57 pages holds most of Jammin's red words.
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| Feb 15, 2008 @ 7:58 PM |
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sail_dancer
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Jankia,
You could hope it fades out but sorry the truth is Christianity's world growth rate is 19 million per year.
I don't know how accurate your figure is but based on this chart (link) christianity's precentage based on world population is decreasing.
Religions of the World
Peace
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| Feb 15, 2008 @ 8:00 PM |
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12knots
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You could hope it fades out but sorry the truth is Christianity's world growth rate is 19 million per year.
The church has grown more in the 20th century than in all the previous 19 centuries since the time of Christ combined, with almost 2 billion adherents worldwide.
The Christian share of the world's population has stood at around 33 per cent for the last hundred years. This masks a major shift in the demographics of Christianity; large increases in the developing world have been accompanied by substantial declines in the developed world, mainly in Europe and North America.[163] On current projections, by 2050 only about one-fifth of the world's Christians will be non-Hispanic whites.[164] It is still the predominant religion in Europe, the Americas, the Philippines, and Southern Africa.[165] However it is declining in some areas including Oceania (Australia and New Zealand), Northern Europe (including France, Germany, Great Britain,[166], Scandinavia and other places) the Western and Northern portions of the United States, and parts of Asia (especially the Middle East[167][168][169], Taiwan[170] and Macau[171]).
In most countries in the developed world, church attendance among people who continue to identify themselves as Christians has been falling over the last few decades.[172] Some sources view this simply as part of a drift away from traditional membership institutions,[173] while others link it to signs of a decline in belief in the importance of religion in general.[17
Like I said....... intelligent man or developed man is fading it away.
It isnt strange why so many that dislike Christianity always point to the wars and the hate of yesterday but dont ever consider the help and the love Christains give to this world today because of what we see right here...
Cant deny truth. Few Christians do and most dont.
we know that its existence is dying out
We? or You?
Glad you recognise it.
If Buddhism is all about the truth why isnt the truth seen instead of whats untrue to suit yourself? Isnt that denial?
Not even the ignorant can deny such truths
 What....? Sorry?
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| Feb 15, 2008 @ 8:00 PM |
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BandTMom
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Good link, Sail.
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