| Mar 31, 2008 @ 8:55 AM |
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hunt4luv
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This Thing we have been Given called life Comes with Responsibilities.
Every choice we make in Life has its Effects on our future And The lives of others.
The biggest responsibility we have is to make Good choices.
The choices we make in raising our children have effects on them as well.
Do we know how to say no? Do we know how to stay out of their business
and let them face their responsibilities. Are we still trying to make their choices for them once they are grown. Do we interfere with their raising of their Children.
Do we so soon forget our imperfections in raising our own children.
By to much interference in children's lives we keep them from facing their responsibilities for choices made. As a result They never Grow up and remain dependent upon their parents and never learn the value of being responsible for their decisions.
If we raise our children with the understanding that each action has its rewards and consequences and stick to our guns we can teach them Discipline.
Discipline is a nasty word these days. we live in a society that says Rules
aren't for me I will do whatever makes me feel good regardless of the effects on those around me, the environment, or my future. Then when the prices for bad decisions confront us We want to Look for someone else to bail us out. The result is a Generation that in many ways has not learned to be responsible for their actions. Selfishness has dictated that ones mistakes be paid for by others. Or be blamed on others. When will we face the reality we are responsible for our Actions.
When will we realize no matter how big our hearts are we are not responsible for everybody else's bad choices. We can burden our lives with the effects of others bad choices until we cannot breath the The life we are Given.
Or we can teach them responsibility in their decisions and let them face the realities. A Child who is bailed out time and time again learns to have no care for their actions. In the end they become bad adults.
We Are meant to love our brother and yes sisters too. Sometimes the best love is allowing them to face the reality of bad decisions so that they will learn to make careful choices.
We will meet people all through our lives Who have been irresponsible are we
required to give them the blessings of our good choices to the detriment of our well being. I think we can create a dependent society all around us if we do so and we will find ourselves broken down by their bad choices and our bad choices to bail them out till we need help out of our foolishness.
the choices we make today have wide ranging effects.
1) What we eat can effect our health, wealth and happiness
2) Rather we spend wisely can determine our future financial stability.
3) Do we spend today and pay tomorrow? Choices can steal our freedom
They all bear responsibilities.
We Can Go through life saying I will wait till I'm sure before making a decision because I have paid such high prices in the past for decisions made and Indecision can cripple us from Going forward.
In essence we can give Our life away to others who are irresponsible
and never live Our dreams while taking responsibility for the effects of their
choices.
We can refuse to live a disciplined lifestyle and see the value of rules to live by
and throw away our tomorrows while resenting those who do things right or join them in making Good decisions and change our Lives for the better.
Our decisions are our own The effects effect all around us. So sometimes You are your brothers keeper. If we never share understanding ignorance will continue to rule. And will inevitably effect our lives and environment and economy.
Choices have their Prices and rewards in everyday life.
Choices have their prices and rewards in Our spiritual lives as well.
Our Choices Today Effect our tomorrows
Choose you this Day whom you will serve
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| Mar 31, 2008 @ 10:26 AM |
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12knots
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Excellent Hunt....
Great topic for karma.
Looking forward to an interest debate here.
So are you saying for every action there is a consequence?
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| Mar 31, 2008 @ 10:34 AM |
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sail_dancer
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Hunt,
It was a good post until your closing statement:Choices have their prices and rewards in Our spiritual lives as well.
Our Choices Today Effect our tomorrows
Choose you this Day whom you will serve Your explanation of how to improve our lives here on earth and that of our children can only benefit people that follow it.
The problem is you miss a very important point in spiritual development. Your statement about over protective parents:The choices we make in raising our children have effects on them as well.
Do we know how to say no? Do we know how to stay out of their business
and let them face their responsibilities. Are we still trying to make their choices for them once they are grown. Do we interfere with their raising of their Children.
Do we so soon forget our imperfections in raising our own children.
By to much interference in children's lives we keep them from facing their responsibilities for choices made. As a result They never Grow up and remain dependent upon their parents and never learn the value of being responsible for their decisions.
If we raise our children with the understanding that each action has its rewards and consequences and stick to our guns we can teach them Discipline. Also applies to an overprotective god that can interfere with our spiritual growth. Just as there are causes and effects in our physical lives, there are also causes and effects in our spiritual lives.
You worship a god that would never follow the insight that posted, yet you still insist that weChoose you this Day whom you will serve Why are you constantly preaching that we SERVE and act like spiritual slaves to our spiritual Father?
Just as children tend to rebel against overprotective and domineering parents so that they can grow and mature in spite of them, so to must we rebel against a manmade god whose only purpose is to dominate and smother us in our spiritual growth. The christian god was invented by man to control and dominate people in the Roman Empire.
Funny that your views of what is good for our physical lives do not conform to your views on our spiritual lives.
Peace
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| Mar 31, 2008 @ 12:07 PM |
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kattsmeow
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So are you saying for every action there is a consequence?
I'm going to say yes. What you put out comes back to you in some form.
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| Mar 31, 2008 @ 2:28 PM |
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hunt4luv
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You are absolutely right katts!
Sail Gods will has not been chosen by man and because of it the world is the sick place that it is. The Christian God created man Sail He wasn't made up by men.
If you don't choose to pass the test he created us for and go on to A Beautiful eternity that's up to you. God gave you a choice. Your not forced. If you wish to pass the test of Growing in Christ Into Sons of God it requires obedience, Love , respect, honer and Humility. Along with many other things we will learn upon the way. You are forced into nothing you have a choice. Just don't expect To be rewarded for wrong decisions.
Knotty I believe everything we do makes ripples on our future and in most instances effects others as well. To many people want to blame the mess of this world on God because he wants Children who will serve him with their whole heart by their own choice.
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| Mar 31, 2008 @ 2:42 PM |
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12knots
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Knotty I believe everything we do makes ripples on our future and in most instances effects others as well. To many people want to blame the mess of this world on God because he wants Children who will serve him with their whole heart by their own choice.
What do you kill?
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| Mar 31, 2008 @ 3:37 PM |
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kattsmeow
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^^Knott, what does that have to do with what Hunt said? I don't see it.
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| Mar 31, 2008 @ 3:46 PM |
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12knots
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Have to wait for Hunts reply and further dialogue.
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| Mar 31, 2008 @ 3:53 PM |
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Angel54214
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You worship a god that would never follow the insight that posted, yet you still insist that we
Choose you this Day whom you will serve
Why are you constantly preaching that we SERVE and act like spiritual slaves to our spiritual Father?
That is Hunt's "seal" and he walks his talk
Like your's Sail is PEACE  where do you walk your talk? 
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| Mar 31, 2008 @ 4:17 PM |
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sail_dancer
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Angel,
That is Hunt's "seal" and he walks his talk Hunt does not use this to close all his posts, so what are you talking about?
where do you walk your talk? Wherever my path takes me.
All my posts are about love and peace. Even posts about christianity's dogma and it's anti-peace/anti-love themes, are posted with the hope of instilling love and peace to all mankind.
My posts do not support violence, rape, egotism or bigotry, the christians are the ones whose posts contain those things. I think christians should wakeup to what their dogma teaches.
Peace
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| Mar 31, 2008 @ 7:44 PM |
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Jankia
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hunt- If we raise our children with the understanding that each action has its rewards and consequences and stick to our guns we can teach them Discipline.
That comment couldnt be said more truthfull hunt4.  After raising five the cause and effect of its action has been even more enjoyable...the reward, then the fine result in it...the consequence.
All my posts are about love and peace. Even posts about christianity's dogma and it's anti-peace/anti-love themes, are posted with the hope of instilling love and peace to all mankind.
My posts do not support violence, rape, egotism or bigotry, the christians are the ones whose posts contain those things. I think christians should wakeup to what their dogma teaches.
I think Christains are well awake to the untruth I quoted in bold. 
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| Mar 31, 2008 @ 7:57 PM |
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12knots
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Are people saying they know the consequences of their actions?
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| Mar 31, 2008 @ 8:01 PM |
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Jankia
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I was only saying the consequences were a good outcome of the discipline taught in my case. 
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| Mar 31, 2008 @ 8:45 PM |
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Angel54214
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Hunt does not use this to close all his posts, so what are you talking about?
He has his own style, as you do your Peace style, except your don't post Peace, you just end it to give us Peace.  Wake Up! Just Kidding!
Are people saying they know the consequences of their actions?
To me, only God knows. 
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| Mar 31, 2008 @ 8:48 PM |
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sail_dancer
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I think Christains are well awake to the untruth I quoted in bold Good example of a christian trying to cause trouble.
This from a man that posted a private email (I responded to him with) in the public forums.
This man only posts in these threads to cause trouble and personally attack those that have different beliefs than he does.
Peace
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| Mar 31, 2008 @ 10:47 PM |
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Jankia
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sail- This from a man that posted a private email (I responded to him with) in the public forums.This man only posts in these threads to cause trouble and personally attack those that have different beliefs than he does.
That said by the same person that also said this on the same page...All my posts are about love and peace.
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We often want to know why something happened or what happened as the result of something else happening. We try to understand the reason or cause for it. The word "because" often helps you understand why something happened. If the word "because" does not appear, then try to figure out why an event occurred I will provide proof of what I comment on whenever asked.That "private email" mentioned above that I posted was in answer to a question you asked of me to prove myself.I did,but that proof was side-stepped by your crying of my breaking the rules.
Those that are aware of me on this site know that I do demand proof quite often because I try to understand the reason or cause for it. Much like so many on here ask for the proof of God.
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Again sail-This man only posts in these threads to cause trouble and personally attack those that have different beliefs than he does Your turn.....prove what you say that Ive attacked anyone for having a different belief then my own.. 
Sorry folks to bother you with this rebuttal to saildancer but because the publicly accused have a right to a public reckoning I did just that.
see above...Cause and Effect
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| Mar 31, 2008 @ 10:52 PM |
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Angel54214
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Jankia, maybe there is much "truth" in what Knotty is asking...
Are people saying they know the consequences of their actions?
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| Mar 31, 2008 @ 11:03 PM |
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sail_dancer
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Sorry folks to bother you with this rebuttal to saildancer but because the publicly accused have a right to a public reckoning I did just that.
see above...Cause and Effect But in this case YOU were the cause.
You are just looking for trouble...........as usual!
Peace
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| Mar 31, 2008 @ 11:06 PM |
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hunt4luv
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Knotty we Can have a pretty good idea of the effects of many actions before they are ever taken before they are ever done. some we suffer the consequences afterwords but they are also evident. I dont kill anything knotty I do swat flies!
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| Mar 31, 2008 @ 11:06 PM |
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Jankia
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Angel-Of course theres truth in what knotty said.Why wouldnt there be?
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