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16knots
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SOC,
firstly, you have yet to substantiate any claim to the truth of what you say.
Even though there maybe doubt in what Hammer says, he has a darn good basis for the truth and in some respect he is talking the truth from scientific grounding.
Please stop trying to teach kindergarten maths to university professors.
Disregarding hammer's perpetual insults, He is willing to invite Hammertime into His presence even yet.
Geeezus..... you ARE delusional!
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| Jun 3 @ 1:43 PM |
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sail_dancer
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Jesus went to the cross for you + for me Sail, and through His sacrificial death, the gates of heaven have been opened for us.
Again you dodge the question. If god is the "boss man", why couldn't he find a better way than having his son beaten and killed? Seems he has a penchant for blood, gore and death.
And you have the gall to call it love.
Peace
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| Jun 3 @ 1:49 PM |
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Jankia
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Everything has its weaknesses but at least you cant include Christains as having the weakness seen by a few of the non-Christains just on this site.
We dont have the problem of associating people unlike ourselves as being delusional,ignorant,uneducated or mentally challenged and having hallucintions.
Names used by those that think they are superior to embarrass people and make themselves look better.
Thats a weakness usually found in school children to make up for there own feelings of inferiority among there classmates or to impress those classmates into thinking they are actually a learned person.
Another weakness Christianity doesnt have that are obvious on here are those dealing with truth.Seems that a few that are non-Christain have the obvious habit of changing the truthfull opinion of a Christain into something they can use to discredit that person,either by quoting them on one topic in another with a different meaning or changing what they say to mean what they want other people to believe.
Sure Christains have the weakness of not being perfect,at least on here we dont put up an act of thinking that we are by constantly repeating the same questions because we dont like the answers given.
Again,thats a weakness that most grow out of after grade school which also includes not answering serious questions themselves because they know the answer if given truthfully will expose the front they put up meant to give false impressions of themselves.
SOC being a humble Christain doesnt have the weakness seen so often on here... being conceited.
Sail-If god is the "boss man", why couldn't he find a better way than having his son beaten and killed? Seems to me you would have to ask the person that put man on this earth to get your answer.He gave us a life and our own choice in living it.Would it be better if he hadnt let us be who we are...humans,or pre-programmed robots under him?
[Edited on 6/3/2008 1:57 PM]
[Edited on 6/3/2008 1:57 PM]
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| Jun 3 @ 2:01 PM |
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hammertime
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Disregarding hammer's perpetual insults, He is willing to invite Hammertime into His presence even yet.
How is that a bad thing? He told you this himself? When was this?
But he can tell me himself. I wouldn't mind a visit during the day to break up the monotony. Even in the middle of the night is fine. I could talk to him while I take a midnight piss. Let him show his face, if he's got one. I don't care what time it is. I'd even tell him a few things he needs to know like I don't think much of his attitude. I'd ask him what kind of stupid bastard creator lets his people suffer and die in agony while he sits back and watches for his own entertainment. I'd also tell him too many of his followers are mentally ill and therefore make a perfect image of him. And what about the talking ass? Is that an image of him too? After all he sucked the life out of his own son. He must be a real ass of a father. And the last thing I would tell him is that he can "know" himself in the biblical sense. I'm sure he would appreciate that. I just don't want to be around when he does it.
[Edited on 6/3/2008 2:09 PM]
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| Jun 3 @ 2:02 PM |
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LanceVarden7
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Malachi 1
2. "I have loved you," says the LORD. "But you ask, `How have you loved us?' "Was not Esau Jacob's brother?" the LORD says. "Yet I have loved Jacob,
3. but Esau I have hated, and I have turned his mountains into a wasteland and left his inheritance to the desert jackals."
If God didn't hate Esua, then did Malachi get it wrong?
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| Jun 3 @ 2:12 PM |
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hammertime
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Jankia
Have you been watching PeeWee Herman's play house again? 
But isn't it sad the legacy your blind faith embraces? No facts. No evidence. No veracity. Just fable, dogma and myth along with all the excuses why its so.
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| Jun 3 @ 2:18 PM |
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ServantOfChrist2
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Sorry Lance. I'm not able to answer that.
Good question. 
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| Jun 3 @ 2:20 PM |
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16knots
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Jankia:
Opening statement....
Everything has its weaknesses but at least you cant include Christains as having the weakness seen by a few of the non-Christains just on this site.
...we shall ignore the rest.
Hammer answers it best but I will emphasize...
But isn't it sad the legacy your blind faith embraces? No facts. No evidence. No veracity. Just fable, dogma and myth along with all the excuses why its so.
It is about time you seeked truth instead of relying on caveman mentality. Stop relying on others for your excuse of life and seek what life is providing in truth.
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| Jun 3 @ 2:29 PM |
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ServantOfChrist2
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Sail_Dancer, I'm not able to answer the questions you posed in such a friendly fashion either.
Humility...I acknowledge that His ways are far above my ways. And I have the humility that allows me to accept this.
There are many, many things about our Father that I do not understand. (I hope to be learning all my days.  )
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| Jun 3 @ 2:43 PM |
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hammertime
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It is about time you seeked truth instead of relying on caveman mentality. Oh man Knots. Now you're getting me mad... 
See this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVvBXBZEhkw
You can't expect Jankia to compete with a classy caveman....
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| Jun 3 @ 2:45 PM |
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16knots
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Oh geezus.... Hammer.... I am so sorry! I publicly apologize to Cavemen and you!
 I spoke in ignorance! 
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| Jun 3 @ 2:46 PM |
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hammertime
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SOC
Don't worry. One day you'll hear the voice and do the deed.
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| Jun 3 @ 2:49 PM |
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16knots
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Hammer, it is scary because... how many people have murdered and said God made them do it or the Lord spoke to them?
Scary huh?
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| Jun 3 @ 3:04 PM |
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sail_dancer
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Lance,
Deuteronomy 12:31
Thou shalt not do so unto the LORD thy God: for every abomination to the LORD, which he hateth, have they done unto their gods; for even their sons and their daughters they have burnt in the fire to their gods.
Deuteronomy 16:22
Neither shalt thou set thee up any image; which the LORD thy God hateth.
Psalm 5
4For thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness: neither shall evil dwell with thee.
5The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
6Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing: the LORD will abhor the bloody and deceitful man.
Proverbs 6:16
These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
Amos 6:8
The Lord GOD hath sworn by himself, saith the LORD the God of hosts, I abhor the excellency of Jacob, and hate his palaces: therefore will I deliver up the city with all that is therein.
Zechariah 8:17
And let none of you imagine evil in your hearts against his neighbour; and love no false oath: for all these are things that I hate, saith the LORD.
Seems that there was much hate in the OT god's heart.
Did translators improperly translate the Hebrew to English, or is the OT god more human than we think?
Peace
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| Jun 3 @ 3:09 PM |
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hammertime
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Hammer, it is scary because... how many people have murdered and said God made them do it or the Lord spoke to them?
Scary huh?
go to
Nov 13, 2007 @ 1:28 PM
click ---->> Blind Faith Ignorance
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| Jun 3 @ 3:19 PM |
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16knots
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| Jun 3 @ 3:41 PM |
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Angel54214
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Did God hate Esua?
God loving Jacob and hating Esau had nothing to do with the human emotions of love and hate. It had everything to do with God choosing one man and his descendants and rejecting another man and his descendants. Easu became the Edomites which went against the brother Jacob (Israel). The younger was to serve the elder brother (nation).
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| Jun 3 @ 3:48 PM |
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joe_kerr
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Speaking of love, this pastor is just full of it. I'll let you determine what it is.
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| Jun 3 @ 3:58 PM |
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16knots
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joe.... loved the part he said 'God Loves" then his actions. Hypocrite!
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| Jun 3 @ 4:10 PM |
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joe_kerr
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Do you suppose he's never read 1 Corinthians 13:4-7?
4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.
5 It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.
6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.
7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
Or maybe it just doesn't apply to him. 
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