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hunt4luv
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Sadly Their are many here in the r+s threads that Are not content to post on their religions and beliefs and show respect for the beliefs of others. They feel the need to taint the understanding of any who might come to read these threads in hopes of gaining some good from them.
I would say though there are those who would Do all they could to lead others to the Lord Jesus Christ. That there are also many who would twist the Truth to keep one from finding that true path to God that is meant to be followed.
This is truly an area that MD could remove the problem by using a little wisdom. I would say separate the R+S threads. This battle has been going on long enough and when complaints are made Christians are told this is not a Christian sight. Sadly The Sunny disposition of the police and their beliefs and willingness to participate in the bashing of Christians does little to remove the tensions. I would think R+S would mean we would all have the right to Have our Areas of discussion without being exposed to packs of hate filled Hyenas snapping at your heels every time you wish to have a legitimate discussion.
Does anyone else feel this way?
Anyone else want the badgering to stop and good discussions not to be attacked. I ask that you speak out. That is what is needed
here Sometimes things have to be fought for.
We are not as Christians to give in to the devils attacks he is to be fought and defeated.
I ASK YOU FELLOW CHRISTIANS ARE THEIR ANY OUT THEIR WHO WANT
A PLACE OF PEACE THAT WE AS CHRISTIANS CAN POST WITHOUT OTHERS TREATING US AS IF WE ARE POACHING PROSPECTS.
IS THIS PLACE WORTH TAKING A FOOTHOLD IN FOR TRUTH AND RIGHTEOUSNESS. OR IS IT TO BE CAST TO THE DOGS?
PLEASE ALL THOSE WHO REMAIN SILENT AND STAND IDLY BY YOUR RESPONSE IS REQUESTED HERE. MAY GOD BE WITH YOU ALL.
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| May 18 @ 2:19 PM |
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sealacamp
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Hunt this has been addressed before with no positive results to date. Yes it would be nice to be able to actually have a discussion without the constant intercession of meddlers and troublemakers. But then they say that about us. I think the best that we can do is stand for the truth when are where we are led to do so. If we get some peace in some place then so much the better. Besides the internal peace we have been blessed with supersedes any worldly type of peace that we may find.
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| May 18 @ 3:05 PM |
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hunt4luv
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I have to agree sealcamp that we have to find our peace where we stand. yet pulling together of Christians could have its effects. I agree it is a situation that we must ask will fairness be given in though. God bless you Brother.
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| May 18 @ 3:22 PM |
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12knots
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...onward Christians...
Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war,
with the cross of Jesus going on before.
Christ, the royal Master, leads against the foe;
forward into battle see his banners go!
Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war,
with the cross of Jesus going on before.
At the sign of triumph Satan's host doth flee;
on then, Christian soldiers, on to victory!
Hell's foundations quiver at the shout of praise;
brothers, lift your voices, loud your anthems raise.
Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war,
with the cross of Jesus going on before.
Like a mighty army moves the church of God;
brothers, we are treading where the saints have trod.
We are not divided, all one body we,
one in hope and doctrine, one in charity.
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There is an ongoing attempt by various religiously motivated people to replace 21st-century natural science with a kind of science that existed hundreds of years ago, before there was much separation between science, philosophy, and theology. Many Christian creationists would like to replace natural science as it has developed since the 17th century--with its focus on understanding the natural world in naturalistic, mechanistic terms--with something much broader that would include supernatural, teleological explanations. I call these folks “Christian soldiers” because they seem to be on a holy crusade to retake Jerusalem, where Jerusalem represents not just science but other important aspects of our heathen culture, in particular our heathen ethics.
While some crusaders are attacking what they take to be representative of all that is wrong with natural science, namely, natural selection, others who may have little or no interest in science have concurrently been very active in promoting such things as requiring prayer in public schools and posting The Ten Commandments in public buildings. Some crusaders, like those at the Discovery Institute’s Center for Science and Culture, attack both science and heathen ethics, but unlike the other crusaders, these folks do not wear their Bible or their Christianity on their sleeves. I’ll have more to say about them below.
During the last quarter of the 20th century, the creationists who sought to turn back the clock on the history of science did not produce scientific discoveries nor did they publish scientific papers or books that would shatter the foundations of natural science and force a paradigm retrofit. Instead they pushed something they called “creation science” and tried to get it admitted into the public school science classroom as a competitor to the theory of evolution. They attacked the theory of evolution in every way imaginable and they argued that “creation science” should be taught in the science classroom along with evolution as a matter of fairness, so that students could decide for themselves which theory best explains all the facts. Our courts recognized this for what it was--an attempt to introduce a particular group’s religious notions into the secular science classroom--and ruled that “creation science” was not science at all but religion.
But the courts did not put a stop to the movement. If anything, the movement is larger today than it was 25 years ago, partly because of the Internet. It is now international and Web sites attacking evolution and promoting the Bible as the true foundation for science and culture have proliferated. The current wave of crusaders who are trying to accomplish the same goals as the “creation scientists” have a new tactic. They have replaced “creation science” with “intelligent design” (ID). ID is not a religious theory, so it won’t be subject to the same criticisms that “creation science” was subject to. However, it is clear that even though the defenders of ID claim that it is a scientific theory and a serious alternative to natural selection or other naturalistic theories of evolution, it isn’t. ID is an attempt to bring philosophy into the science classroom. As such, it has the potential to do much more damage than “creation science” to the integrity of science education.
Christian war on science: Onward Christian Soldiers
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| May 18 @ 3:33 PM |
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Dixielady67
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Here comes the troll to bash Christians again....  ...I've noticed that they like to jump on the christian forums and cause crap and then talk about how peaceful the forums are for what THEY believe in because there's no bashing there ...I guess they don't like peace  .
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| May 18 @ 3:36 PM |
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ForumMod
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ONCE AGAIN!!!!
THERE ARE NO FORUMS EXCLUSIVE TO ANYONE OF ANY RELIGION OR BELIEFS.
IF YOU WANT A FORUM EXCLUSIVE TO CHRISTIANS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO GO TO CHRISTIAN-ONLY DATING SITES.
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| May 18 @ 3:49 PM |
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onoudn
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I thought it might help to see what the Nichiren Sects of Buddhism are doing to bring civility back into the R/S forums on other sites.
I posted this in the Discussion of Buddhism thread. But yall know how I like to repeat myself..... 
Reform the Nichiren Buddhist Debate
This web site is devoted to bringing civility to the discussion of Nichiren Buddhism on the internet. I and all of those supporting the positions in the essay hope to protect and purify the online perception of Nichiren Buddhism in its various forms by proposing the following:
1. The disputants in the various inter-Nichiren debates should immediately agree to cease their angry, hateful rhetoric online and in every other forum.
2. The forums of the individual schools should be left to those individual schools unless a member of another school invites an individual to participate.
3. Participants in forums for those of more than one school (ecumenical forums) or as an invited guest in the forum of a particular school should behave in a courteous manner, humbly, politely, and unabusively stating his or her opinions on subjects of contention.
3. Attacks on persons not in a particular forum, besides being contrary to the above principles, should also cease in respect of the fact that the individual is not able to respond to them.
3. These propositions should be applied with the spirit that each individual and each school has the right to practice as it sees fit without interference from other individuals and schools, regardless of one's personal beliefs as to that school's truth or efficacy.
We believe that doctrinal disagreements may, and should, continue, but only according to the guidelines set forth by Nichiren in The Teaching, Practice, and Proof, that is, with respect, politeness, humility, and freedom from abuse.
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| May 18 @ 3:52 PM |
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12knots
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Stop repeating yourself Ono.
Now, if we follow all these guide lines..... what about the Dogma Christians? They dont seem to be able to read postings correctly 
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| May 18 @ 3:54 PM |
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onoudn
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The Christian's I know can. We have civil discussions all the time. I think what's going on here is a lot of history.
The Christian's I know can. We have civil discussions all the time. I think what's going on here is a lot of history.
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| May 18 @ 4:03 PM |
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12knots
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I see.... you mean the real Christians. The ones that dont spout hatred, hell fire and damn us all for eternity.
Those real Christians aren't half as bad as the pulpit preacher types. Dont know what to do with them, they preach so much its screwing up our evolution.
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| May 18 @ 4:06 PM |
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onoudn
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History
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| May 18 @ 4:11 PM |
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hammertime
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Sadly Their are many here in the r+s threads that Are not content to post on their religions and beliefs and show respect for the beliefs of others. 
So you get what you give....Do unto others as you would have others do unto you. Why are you complaining????
Hunt says all other faiths worship demons
hammertime their is only One God The rest are demons. Jan 19 @ 4:30 PM
http://www.matchdoctor.com/thread_87_25552_19/Hypocricy.html
Hunt says Buddhists worship through holes
There is only One true God. all the rest are the foolishness of men and demons. man takes a tree cuts it down. makes a peice of furniture,cuts firewood and carves an idol from the same peice of wood. then bows down and prays to it. the buddist carve an entry hole into the back of some of there idols for the evil spirit to enter in to it as they pray to it. demonic spirits are real. I would venture to say you have pretty close association with them hammer. Jan 23 @ 10:51 PM
http://www.matchdoctor.com/thread_87_25707_7/Christianity_Misrepresented.html
So Hunt, since you follow the golden rule that would mean you want your religion to be mocked and criticized...So why are you complaining? Don't you think that kind of makes you look like a hypocrite?
 
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| May 18 @ 4:16 PM |
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onoudn
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I hear keys that jiggle jangle jangle...... 
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| May 18 @ 4:20 PM |
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onoudn
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Sorry for the double post but I think this could be an interesting thread.
Why is it that people can't discuss religion without someone getting offended ?
I know I get very offended, for instance, when I go to the VA and I have to hear doctors, nurses, receptionist, etc, telling me about how they are Christians. Then they get offended because I don't want to hear it. There has to be a civil way to discuss our respective faiths. So why is it we can't seem to do that here ?
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| May 18 @ 4:26 PM |
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SunBabe
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I know I get very offended, for instance, when I go to the VA and I have to hear doctors, nurses, receptionist, etc, telling me about how they are Christians. Then they get offended because I don't want to hear it.
Just tell them you're Jewish and they'll shut right up. Everyone has collective guilt when it comes to the Jews, yanno. 
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| May 18 @ 4:27 PM |
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Solitaire
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Sadly Their are many here in the r+s threads that Are not content to post on their religions and beliefs and show respect for the beliefs of others. They feel the need to taint the understanding of any who might come to read these threads in hopes of gaining some good from them.
They may think they are imparting a truth as strong and valid to them as yours is to you. That their Truth is different from your Truth becomes a problem when one side is adament that there is only one THRUTH. When that stance is taken, then the thread is not longer open for discussion but becomes a platform for attack.
This is truly an area that MD could remove the problem by using a little wisdom. I would say separate the R+S threads.
How do you want them separated Hunt? Should there be a Jewish Forum, an Islamic Forum, a Buddist Forum, Christian forum, a Real Christian Forum, A True Believer Forum, A Heathen and Infidels Forum, a godless minions of Satan Forum?
This battle has been going on long enough and when complaints are made Christians are told this is not a Christian sight. Sadly The Sunny disposition of the police and their beliefs and willingness to participate in the bashing of Christians does little to remove the tensions. I would think R+S would mean we would all have the right to Have our Areas of discussion without being exposed to packs of hate filled Hyenas snapping at your heels every time you wish to have a legitimate discussion.
If they would remain discussions and not harangues, it ould be different. I have been interested in reading threads that bring up points of clarification , but they almost always devolve into name calling, judgemental decrees, and apparent proselytism.
If what you want is a forum where you can talk about your religious belirfs with those that feel the same as you, without dissent, there are many sites out there. It is not MatchDoctors responsibility to agree or disagree with your point of view. If you don't like how they edit, find a different sandbox.
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| May 18 @ 4:28 PM |
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12knots
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Because some Christians are too self-righteous....
"holier-than-thou: excessively or hypocritically pious; "a sickening sanctimonious smile" "
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| May 18 @ 4:31 PM |
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onoudn
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I think maybe hunt wants what we all want. To be able to discuss our faith without fear of being subjected to public humilation. But this is a public dating forum and that's perhaps a litttle much to expect. Unfortunately, we have to put up with the bad as well as the good. It would be nice if we could all just get along though---even if it would be kind of boring as well.
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| May 18 @ 4:38 PM |
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12knots
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It isnt a problem ono when he posts without accusing or stating we are all going to be "hell-fired."
When he does posts and we ask questions he ignores us or damns us. Basically he only wants to hear himself and sound impressive amongst his clan followers.
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| May 18 @ 4:53 PM |
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Dixielady67
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Knot..... I just looked on page 1 of the forums and what do I see????....13 forums that YOU'VE started.... bashing Christians....perhaps you should get a LIFE ...It's obvious that YOU'RE the one TRYING to look impressive, but it's NOT working....Good try though  ....Have a great day!
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