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16knots
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Angel:
Well that's a poor excuse if I ever heard one, (believe me I have done my part). Christians have been helping all around the world for centuries; It's called organization.
Yes, and we see the results. Look at nearly all the third world countries and what has retarded their progress. Christianity. Children dying on the streets because of stupid Christian beliefs on contraceptives and abortions. Governments brainwashed by poor Christian ideologies.... these places are a mess.
Where are all the Buddha organizations that flea to serve others countries? There are none that's why because it's all about "self" and not about helping others in need.
 Dunno what "flea to serve other countries" is about. Anyhow Buddhists do not advertise what they do but we did post the other day on many awards that Buddhists have quietly received.  And it isnt all about Humans but ALL sentient beings.
Angel, you can check the net yourself for Buddhist charities as you well know.
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| Jun 6 @ 10:51 PM |
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Angel54214
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Yes, and we see the results. Look at nearly all the third world countries and what has retarded their progress. Christianity. Children dying on the streets because of stupid Christian beliefs on contraceptives and abortions. Governments brainwashed by poor Christian ideologies.... these places are a mess.
Countries are by their own laws, not by Christians  This is a predjudism opinion.
Children die in the streets because their parents let it happen and their government allows it to happen. Meanwhile the Buddha monks hide into themselves and in their "missionaries" hoping they don't get made to go and "help".
Contraceptives and abortions are universal problems, not "Christian" problems.... again, another unreal predjudism against christianity.
These problems are due to lack of good parenting and education. Third world countries are very poor because they want it that way; they want to be served instead of being taught how to serve their own. Ignorance!
Governments are not "brainwashed" by christians. They do allow zealots and activists in the whitehouse to hold the mike! Millions of Christians will have no part in these extremist activists.
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| Jun 6 @ 11:05 PM |
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16knots
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Angel:
Countries are by their own laws, not by Christians This is a predjudism opinion.
They are Christians right and follow commandments with most third world Countries catholic so have direction from the Vatican This country although not a third world country has a toxic religiosity disease where crazy religious nuts get elected to Presidency 
Children die in the streets because their parents let it happen and their government allows it to happen.
Have you ever been outside of your town? Have you been to third world countries? Lived in any? Children die in the streets because their parents are forced not to take contraception and have abortions so millions die a year. Look at Mexico alone..... 
Meanwhile the Buddha monks hide into themselves and in their "missionaries" hoping they don't get made to go and "help". Dragging up lies now Angel
The Theravada Monks are a blessing and a wonderful example of practice what you preach. Eat one meal a day, wear a robe and one bowl. Not allowed to touch money or hold wealth Mot pissed on power and saying its God's will.
Have you stood in the centre of the Vatican? Or... hey what about your local Church or even TV.... Billions of dollars.... sick religiosity!!!!
Contraceptives and abortions are universal problems, not "Christian" problems.... again, another unreal predjudism against christianity.
Naw, it isnt! Take Mother Teresa for example.... she rather see pregnant women and the kids dumped in the street! So she can send them to God instead of spending the millions donated to her to look after and educate the poor. See the Video "Mother from Hell" (YouTube)
These problems are due to lack of good parenting and education. Third world countries are very poor because they want it that way; they want to be served instead of being taught how to serve their own. Ignorance!
WOW!!! What ignorance!!!!! You are saying these poor hungry kids want to be that way and their parents too who are destitute and dying want it that way!!!! Guess thats all we can expect from a religion based on an evil God that likes to see peoples killed in his glory
Governments are not "brainwashed" by christians. They do allow zealots and activists in the whitehouse to hold the mike! Millions of Christians will have no part in these extremist activists.
 Yeah.... right!
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| Jun 6 @ 11:22 PM |
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Angel54214
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The Theravada Monks are a blessing and a wonderful example of practice what you preach. Eat one meal a day, wear a robe and one bowl.
knotty you know as well as I do the monks can eat 2 meals a day! They go out very early in the morning with their bowl and walk with their heads down until donators have filled it. They are beggers!
The rest of their day is chanting, praying, meditation and devotionals. They do nothing for the outside world...nothing!
Big deal they wear a robe! I can too if I want to...my house robe...
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| Jun 6 @ 11:23 PM |
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Angel54214
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and excuse me! Yes I have helped save thousands of born babies from third world countries, Mexico and and in USA. Which my "personal" experiences and education has nothing to do with this topic! And I never went out and begged for food! I earned it!
[Edited on 6/6/2008 11:24 PM]
[Edited on 6/6/2008 11:25 PM]
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| Jun 6 @ 11:24 PM |
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BandTMom
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Angel said:
Children die in the streets because their parents let it happen
Children die in third world countries because their parents let them Hogwash! They die because there are too many of them and they have nothing to eat.
And children die in the U.S. because their parents are praying to a god instead of getting them the medical attention they need.
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| Jun 6 @ 11:26 PM |
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Angel54214
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Children die in third world countries because their parents let them Hogwash! They die because there are too many of them and they have nothing to eat.
That's not an answer...Why do they have "nothing" to eat??
a baby can live on milk for over a year; Mother's milk, cow milk and goats milk.
parents let them die!
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| Jun 6 @ 11:28 PM |
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hammertime
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Parents are starving too... Mother's milk could even be infected.
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| Jun 6 @ 11:29 PM |
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BandTMom
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They die because there are too many of them and they have nothing to eat.
Care to clue me in why it is the parents fault?
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| Jun 6 @ 11:31 PM |
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Angel54214
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Dragging up lies now Angel
Knotty, this is not an answer, even from you. Tell us what is a lie that I said. You yourself know where monks spend all their time. Certainly not in hospitals as doctors, or in public schools as teachers...or even in grocery stores stocking shelves. They rather hide in their huge gold idol temples chanting and sitting all day after they sweep out the cobwebs. What a human contribution!
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| Jun 6 @ 11:35 PM |
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16knots
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Angel:
knotty you know as well as I do the monks can eat 2 meals a day! They go out very early in the morning with their bowl and walk with their heads down until donators have filled it. They are beggers!
The rest of their day is chanting, praying, meditation and devotionals. They do nothing for the outside world...nothing!
Yes, they practice what they preach to own nothing. far from doing nothing, they are pillars of the communities. They teach, nurse, doctor, take care of not only peoples but animals too. They do a great deal!!!
Big deal they wear a robe! I can too if I want to...my house robe...
Guess you own a house, a car, many clothes, makeup, jewlry, TV, books, etcetera etcetra... "worldly and materialistic"
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| Jun 6 @ 11:41 PM |
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BandTMom
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Sometimes those who have no answers have to belittle another's answers to uplift themselves.
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| Jun 6 @ 11:42 PM |
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16knots
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Angel:
Knotty, this is not an answer, even from you. Tell us what is a lie that I said. I have known you a long time and read your posts. YOU as well as I know you are dragging up hogwash on Buddhists.
You yourself know where monks spend all their time.
Yes, I do.... cultivating wisdom and compassion for all living beings. They do work as doctors, nurses, teachers, work in various fields. Some Buddhist countries have programmes where any one can take time out from work to be ordained as a monk for awhile and return to work.
Monks work in the arts, welfare, animal care and in so many areas of life. Best of all they teach what they preach what they practice.... Love, compassion, wisdom, joy and equanimity.
Certainly not in hospitals as doctors, or in public schools as teachers...or even in grocery stores stocking shelves.
They rather hide in their huge gold idol temples chanting and sitting all day after they sweep out the cobwebs. What a human contribution!
Spite!
YOU know there is no idol worship! Give me a thousand Buddhist monks then a thousand Christian soldiers!!!!
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| Jun 6 @ 11:46 PM |
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Angel54214
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Sometimes those who have no answers have to belittle another's answers to uplift themselves. Yes! You really shouldn't do it! It's not the buddha way!
And just where did I state I was "uplifting" myself? I never said such a thing and never portrayed myself in such atmosphere. I never will! That was not how I was raised nor is it any part of my nature.
Personal attack is not a buddha teaching.....or is it?? 
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| Jun 6 @ 11:46 PM |
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BandTMom
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I'm just wondering why she is so angry.
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Angel54214
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YOU know there is no idol worship! Give me a thousand Buddhist monks then a thousand Christian soldiers!!!!
Knotty, you know I only razing YOU...let's say, I just giving you some of your own medicine in return that you have dished out in the past few weeks!
If you notice, I never did the to any of your predjudist Christian threads and lashings. It's not very mature you know!
and you know those gold and jewel shrines are idols for worshiping. That's one of the first things they do when whey wake up! The go bow down to the huge buddha statue! That is idol worshiping at it's best.
Where in any christian church are their man-made material soldiers pray tell!! Your really expanding your imagination knotty.
I wonder what the buddha monks would do if all those idols suddenly disappeared. What would they bow down to? What would they chant to?
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| Jun 6 @ 11:54 PM |
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BandTMom
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 Am I supposed to be bowing down to my Buddha statue??
I'm doing it wrong.
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| Jun 7 @ 12:02 AM |
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Angel54214
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You need to study "Puja" and the acts there of mom. 
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| Jun 7 @ 12:07 AM |
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16knots
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Angel:
Knotty, you know I only razing YOU...let's say, I just giving you some of your own medicine in return that you have dished out in the past few weeks!
Angel, you know me, I thrive on confrontation. Look how teachings of Buddhism can shine forth
If you notice, I never did the to any of your predjudist Christian threads and lashings. It's not very mature you know!
Well you could have tried but you know..... truth be told...
and you know those gold and jewel shrines are idols for worshiping. That's one of the first things they do when whey wake up! The go bow down to the huge buddha statue! That is idol worshiping at it's best.
This isnt true at all. In fact you will often see Buddhists bow to a Statue three times or prostrate themselves three times.
Nearly all Buddhists practice the first thing...
The Three Jewels... Taking refuge in the Buddha, Taking Refuge in the Dharma and Taking Refuge in the Sangha.
Then they may take the Five Precepts... or more depending how far they are on their path.
Where in any christian church are their man-made material soldiers pray tell!! Your really expanding your imagination knotty.
I wonder what the buddha monks would do if all those idols suddenly disappeared. What would they bow down to? What would they chant to?
Buddhism doesnt require anything except yourself own salvation. Statues and anything else are just tools to help on the path. In the end even the path is given up for what it is, simply a Way to buddhahood.
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Angel - Puja is Hindu, not Buddhist, and I've attended them without ever bowing to an idol...
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