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Loreli
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I feel that, while well-based", it does have some errors.
If we take the GOOD teachings out of it, and treat others well...then I believe that is the intent.
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| Jun 9 @ 2:56 PM |
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16knots
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If a person becomes "at peace with themselves" reading the Bible, but doesn't FORCE that "contentment" on others...will you agree that it's all the same then?
No. It is good to be good but is it the truth of your true nature? The ordinary ego-self mind will do absolutely anything to demonstrate its existence. Try to sit still with a watch timer and see how long it will take you to clear your mind of any thought. What is the time period between one thought and another? maybe a few seconds? A minute if you are lucky?
People are easily deceived in thinking they have found peace of mind. They may become contented but what happens as soon as something pushes them in one direction or another... chaos again.
To find "true" peace of mind one must go way beyond the few seconds or the minute to rest the mind for it to open up. To cut through the ordinary minds grasping either at peace or chaos.
Similar to pushing a large rock... it needs that extra effort to start.
Anyone who talks about love and peace in their mind are generally kidding themselves. Just a feel good factor until a loved one dies, have an accident, or some sort of negative happening in their lives.
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| Jun 9 @ 2:58 PM |
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LanceVarden7
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I feel that, while well-based", it does have some errors.
If we take the GOOD teachings out of it, and treat others well...then I believe that is the intent.
I agree with you 100%
Judas either hung hinmself, or his guts blew out. Both can't be true.
He either bought a field, or gave the money back.
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| Jun 9 @ 2:58 PM |
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BandTMom
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Knotty, I could read words like that all day.
Thank you!
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| Jun 9 @ 2:59 PM |
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Loreli
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Anyone who talks about love and peace in their mind are generally kidding themselves.
Sooo...what's in your mind, Knotty?
(as large as it is?) 
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| Jun 9 @ 3:01 PM |
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16knots
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mom you are welcome
Judas either hung hinmself, or his guts blew out. Both can't be true.
Or he simply did not exist. But what about the new documentary on his alleged life? He was a Judas after all.
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| Jun 9 @ 3:02 PM |
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16knots
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Loreli, what did you understand of what I said? Is it clear to you?
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| Jun 9 @ 4:15 PM |
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sealacamp
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People are easily deceived in thinking they have found peace of mind. They may become contented but what happens as soon as something pushes them in one direction or another... chaos again.
So peace of mind only exists as long as it meets your criteria. That is really narrow of you and seems a bit arrogant something you constantly accuse others of. What I see you saying is that you can't accept that the bible brings peace of mind to anyone and your refusal to accept such forces you to continue to irritate those that have found peace through said book.
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| Jun 9 @ 4:50 PM |
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16knots
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Sea:
So peace of mind only exists as long as it meets your criteria.
It isnt my criteria. It is what it is. Tell me that your mind doesnt follow these characteristics and why please......?
That is really narrow of you and seems a bit arrogant something you constantly accuse others of.
"Narrow minded" about what???? Understanding the characteristics of your mind? Please answer the questions....
What I see you saying is that you can't accept that the bible brings peace of mind to anyone and your refusal to accept such forces you to continue to irritate those that have found peace through said book.
Thats what YOU are saying and not what I am saying. It is obvious your own ordinary mind in respect to ordinary and higher mind is clouded in view. You adhere to grasping at a belief system no matter how good it might be or not. It still doesnt matter. We are talking here about characteristic of your mind not of your religion or anyone elses.
Please take time to answer the questions so confusion is clarified.
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| Jun 9 @ 5:08 PM |
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Jankia
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knots- Anyone who talks about love and peace in their mind are generally kidding themselves. Just a feel good factor until a loved one dies, have an accident, or some sort of negative happening in their lives.
Anyone? If you might have said "Some who" instead,it wouldnt be nonsense to those of us that actually live with love and peace in our minds every day.
Yes,we do feel good because we understand the negatives in life are part of life.
For example,when my father died we were sorry to lose him but at his funeral,happy to have known him.
After my accident that very nearly took my life,it was the love and peace that was shown that was the feel good factor that helped to heal me and comfort my children.
I was amazed at the people that I never knew were religious that came up to me afterward and told me I was in there prayers.
Thats the feel good factor during that sort of negative happening.
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| Jun 9 @ 5:39 PM |
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hammertime
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Judas either hung hinmself, or his guts blew out. Both can't be true. Unless you read the Judas Gospel which makes Judas to be the real hero. Yes, he still gives up Jesus to the Romans but that is what Jesus wants since he is the sacrificial lamb. We do see foundation for this among the Bathed in Blood of Jesus Blood Lust Christian crowd so for them Jesus was a good kill yet hypocritically condemning Judas.
What I see you saying is that you can't accept that the bible brings peace of mind to anyone and your refusal to accept such forces you to continue to irritate those that have found peace through said book. They psychopath will find peace in a book full of damnation, suffering, a dead guy and brutal mistreatment of those around them.
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| Jun 9 @ 5:51 PM |
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16knots
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jankia, i do understand where you are coming from and it does seem happiness can be found that way.
Anyone? If you might have said "Some who" instead,it wouldnt be nonsense to those of us that actually live with love and peace in our minds every day.
Yes, we can live with peace and love every day and this is truly great and absolutely nothing wrong with this behaviour. However.... it always comes doesnt it?.... The ordinary aspect of the mind accepts this happiness and this love and distinguishes it between good and bad, love and war and so many other things. Being at peace with oneself and feeling love for others is good. It is responsible and right but one must get above this view.
Yes,we do feel good because we understand the negatives in life are part of life.
For example,when my father died we were sorry to lose him but at his funeral,happy to have known him.
For many people this type of experience shakes our foundation in why these things happen. How we experience them, etcetera. What you say is a very positive thing to do. Sorry to loose him yet happy to have known him. But with respect this still does not reach our true nature. Tell you why in a moment.
After my accident that very nearly took my life,it was the love and peace that was shown that was the feel good factor that helped to heal me and comfort my children.
I was amazed at the people that I never knew were religious that came up to me afterward and told me I was in there prayers.
Thats the feel good factor during that sort of negative happening.
This is all very good and positive and all religions teach this love and goodness.
Now, even though this is good and positive, is it reaching our true nature of mind? In respect it is part of our nature to do good and to show love yet it is part of the pretense of the ordinary, ego-self mind. We cling to this ordinary mind nature. We want to do good. We distinguish between right and wrong, good and bad, love and hate.
The higher mind is beyond this self-ego mind. It does not distinguish between right and wrong, good and bad, etcetera. Its very nature IS love, compassion and wisdom. people often talk about the "white light" and feelings of utter bliss. meditators talk of feeling raptured sometimes and feeling awesome in this love through their practice.
This is getting nearer to our true nature.
You did say:
"to those of us that actually live with love and peace in our minds every day."
This is partly why I know people havent reached their higher mind knowing their true nature. It should become that they radiate love, compassion and wisdom without "knowing it" parse but totally aware of it.
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| Jun 9 @ 5:54 PM |
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sealacamp
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It isnt my criteria.
Yes it is. Denial is a terrible thing. This is your criteria, you believe it, you preach it, you embrace it, you deny there is anything other than that, it is your religion. It is your criteria. You contradict yourself every other post and then expect someone to listen? Those that are listening, cheering you on are deluded and covered with a dark cloud of deception just as you are.
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| Jun 9 @ 6:01 PM |
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16knots
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seal,
what do you understand:
2 + 2 = 4
or
2 + 2 = 7
???
Just because I state 2 + 2 = 4 doesnt make it my criteria It is universal mathematical algebraic law.
If you dont have the decency to debate, then simply dont TROLL!!!!! 
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| Jun 9 @ 6:03 PM |
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Loreli
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Sorry Knotty, had to go swimming!
I really can just not have thoughts, floating in my pool with soft music playing.
Ir depends on a person's life and lifestyle. Some have kids and/or jobs, homes or other financial obligations, so it is HARD to fully clear your mind.
At least everyday.
When I do/did yoga (not as much anymore), nobody was here, and I could do that.
My mind is eager to learn.
Now, about the Bible...
I have one, I look things up. Or I look things up on the Net...I don't "cram" myself with the thought that I have to follow ANY one thing.
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| Jun 9 @ 6:28 PM |
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16knots
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loreli:
I really can just not have thoughts, floating in my pool with soft music playing.
so... you are listening to music and "feeling" relaxed..... This is another reason why you will not reach your higher mind, true nature. Your ordinary mind, ego-self mind is still busy
Ir depends on a person's life and lifestyle. Some have kids and/or jobs, homes or other financial obligations, so it is HARD to fully clear your mind.
It is very difficult and one of the main reasons for monks and nuns.
My mind is eager to learn.
Its good
Now, about the Bible...
I have one, I look things up. Or I look things up on the Net...I don't "cram" myself with the thought that I have to follow ANY one thing.
Its good
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| Jun 9 @ 6:33 PM |
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BandTMom
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Seal doesn't understand that's it's not a belief or a religion or preaching or anything else.
It is simply the way it is.
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| Jun 9 @ 6:41 PM |
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Loreli
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This is another reason why you will not reach your higher mind, true nature. Your ordinary mind, ego-self mind is still busy So, honestly. there will always be stimulus....birds chirping, neighbors mowing, dogs barking in the distance....
I would rather relax with soothing music, than believe I could achieve total silence.
The ocean, babbling brooks soothe. I can't live in a padded cell, so I cannot remove outer influence on my mind. Nor do I want to....that's, at, how I learn.
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| Jun 9 @ 6:45 PM |
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16knots
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Actually Loreli these are good aids in meditation. There is no silence. It is funny because in the old days of the British Buddhist Society they used to say "the roaring silence."
far from being silent. A whole new world opens up as you become aware of a great deal more than what the ordinary mind gives you.
It isnt about removing anything but being totally aware of everything.
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| Jun 9 @ 6:55 PM |
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hunt4luv
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So the answer to the bible Question to you guys is to pick it apart and choose the pieces that you find Good and throw it away?
That is why their are so many different denominations today and why their is so much weekness in the church. So few want to obey and except Gods word in its entirety. Most just want to take the parts that make them feel Good.
The passover lamb was meant to be eaten in its entirety. nothing left over by morning. Jesus is the lamb of God he is also The Word. You would pick and choose through the Gospal of Christ and eat the sweet meats and leave all else
to rot. when it comes time for the angel of death to pass over, will the right ingredients be in place that we will be passed over?
something to think about.
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