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Thor1960303
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For too long now,science has had to be careful on how to present recent findings,for fear of offending the religious.It's created not only a bottleneck of debate in the educational arena,but such things that could propel mankind into a future free of superstition and antiprogressive beleifs have to wade through political debates based on moralities that have all the substance of a shadow.How long do we have to put up with this?How long do we have to endure myth being accepted as fact?Now while I have no problem with individuals believing whatever they wish,when it becomes embedded into politics,policies based on myth and superstition persist.Stem cell research has to be put on hold while religious and political leaders debate it's "morality".AIDS in Africa proliferates because the Catholic Church puts a nix on condoms and silly wars and conflicts rage in the middle east and other places over the interpretations of scripture and who is supposedly entitled to what.
These policies wouldn't be taken seriously if so many people didn't latch onto these toxic fantasies espoused in religion,particularly Christianity with it's cousin,Islam running a close second.No matter what happens,the faithful will run to their Bibles and pastors looking for ways to bend the facts around the fantasy instead of just dropping the fantasy and accepting common sense and logic.
I was watching the History Channel last night and it was a fascinating documentary about a volcano that erupted some 75 thousand years ago.It showed how this volcano influenced weather patterns even today and how it shaped our genetic destiny.Yet knowing how Fundy Christians think (or don't ),I could imagine how they would interpret the data,believing that the world is only 6000 years old.Every bit of evidence would have to be interpreted based on scripture to them,causing them to rewrite or ignore the laws of physics and the obvious nature of the evidence.
How long is it going to be before the scientific community says,"Enough is enough.?"
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| Jun 11 @ 9:49 AM |
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16knots
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Good thread Thor 
I think in time Christianity will have to reshape itself before its final demise.
It is a breeding ground for the "excusers" and "mental compartmentalizers."
Eventually common sense and wisdom will shine through.
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| Jun 11 @ 9:52 AM |
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hunt4luv
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You can allways find scientists who choose to be blind to the facts in the science they study and claim there is no God.
There are also many scientists that see things from a creation standpoint.
You choose to pick your material from the Athieist side of the coin. God is a reality and he isn't going away.
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| Jun 11 @ 9:56 AM |
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sail_dancer
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There are also many scientists that see things from a creation standpoint.
What a closed mind, dogma driven, delusional person you are!
Peace
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| Jun 11 @ 10:01 AM |
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Thor1960303
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There are also many scientists that see things from a creation standpoint.
None of whom are taken seriously by their peers.For one thing,as has been stated before on this and other forums,creationsim CANNOT be viewed as science because it presupposes a supernatural event and being.Science only deals with empirical evidence and things that are measureable and testable.A "scientist" who embraces creationsim is NOT in reality a scientist at all.
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| Jun 11 @ 10:24 AM |
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16knots
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Hunt:
You can allways find scientists who choose to be blind to the facts in the science they study and claim there is no God.
Why on earth do you constantly open yourself to ridicule? 
Simply science has never proven God exists or not.
There are also many scientists that see things from a creation standpoint.
They are very few indeed and they have a syndrome of compartmental thinking.
You choose to pick your material from the Atheist side of the coin. God is a reality and he isn't going away.
Neither theist or atheist have the answer. That is undeniable fact.
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| Jun 11 @ 10:30 AM |
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hunt4luv
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Without creation their would be nothing for scientists to study creation is the constant, Scientists of the athiest type don't respect Christian scientists yet logic slaps the Athiest in the face at every turn. The Darwinistic beliefs have become the Joke of science.
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| Jun 11 @ 10:30 AM |
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hunt4luv
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Without creation their would be nothing for scientists to study creation is the constant, Scientists of the athiest type don't respect Christian scientists yet logic slaps the Athiest in the face at every turn. The Darwinistic beliefs have become the Joke of science. Perhaps if you read it twice it will sink in.
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| Jun 11 @ 10:33 AM |
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Thor1960303
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The Darwinistic beliefs have become the Joke of science.
Since when?Can you pull a school science text book out and show me where this is what the scientific community accepts?
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| Jun 11 @ 10:37 AM |
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Jankia
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For too long now,science has had to be careful on how to present recent findings,for fear of offending the religious
Really? Since when has theoretical science cared who or what it offends?
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| Jun 11 @ 10:42 AM |
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16knots
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Hunt:
Without creation their would be nothing for scientists to study creation is the constant, Scientists of the athiest type don't respect Christian scientists yet logic slaps the Athiest in the face at every turn.
The world is created from what?
Logic certainly doesnt slap ANY scientist in the face except those who deny empirical data.
The Darwinistic beliefs have become the Joke of science.
It has become the foundation of science and without Dawinism we would not have biological sciences. The very foundations of our medicines and so much more is founded on principles of Dawinism.
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| Jun 11 @ 10:45 AM |
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16knots
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Jankia:
Really? Since when has theoretical science cared who or what it offends?
I find this amusing since I was a Theoretical Physicist
The very foundations of ALL our sciences are based on Theoretical Physics or you could say sciences.
From the early days of Pythagoras.... Galileo.... Newtonian Mechanics.... Relativity... Quantum Mechanics...
Everything about your life is on Theoretical principles in every sciences.
The sciences offend no one. The persons who use them may. Take Einstein and the bomb.... he was a pacifist yet was the leading instigator in its design. One mans medicine is another mans poison.
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| Jun 11 @ 1:23 PM |
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Thor1960303
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without Dawinism we would not have biological sciences
Such as the classification of living things into kingdom,phylum,class,order,family,genus and species.Yep,that's a joke allright.
Really? Since when has theoretical science cared who or what it offends?
Never heard of the Scopes monkey trial?
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| Jun 11 @ 1:32 PM |
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hammertime
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How long is it going to be before the scientific community says,"Enough is enough.?"
They have!!!! Only a few of us noticed....
Some of the most brilliant minds gathered the Salk Institute for three days.
http://thesciencenetwork.org/BeyondBelief/watch/
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| Jun 11 @ 1:46 PM |
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Angel54214
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There are also many scientists that see things from a creation standpoint.
What a closed mind, dogma driven, delusional person you are!
Personal opinion on another person does not justify as an answer to the first post here.
Read...
http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-scientists.html
Poor Darwin...he has bad case of mental illness too! 
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| Jun 11 @ 1:53 PM |
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hammertime
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Of the hundreds of thousands of scientists only 50 believe in creationism? Yup, that really means many scientists.
Errrh, technically thats wrong....Having a PhD doesn't mean you're a scientist simply by learning by rote. One needs to be published and in peer reviewed scientific journals and so far there have been ZERO scientific publications supporting Creationism.
[Edited on 6/11/2008 1:55 PM]
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| Jun 11 @ 1:55 PM |
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Thor1960303
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Interesting that Leonardo Da Vinci is named as a "creationist scientist" since Darwin would not be born for another few centuries after Da Vinci's death.
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| Jun 11 @ 1:57 PM |
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sail_dancer
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Poor Darwin...he has bad case of mental illness too!
Darwin was a christian in his eary years. Even people that break away from christianity retain a "bad case of mental illness". It takes may years to right the wrongs christian dogma does to a person's mental health.
Peace
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| Jun 11 @ 2:07 PM |
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16knots
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There is no evidence at all to suggest Darwin suffered any form of mental illness.
He had physical illnesses, yes.
More Christian clap trap!
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| Jun 11 @ 2:09 PM |
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hammertime
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This group of lunatics call themselves scientists in "creation science" and yet there has never been any published peer reviewed study by any of them. Why? Because they don't use the scientific method, they're not scientists, they use faith.
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