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Karmafury
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Asatru....means 'belief in the gods' in Old Norse. .
As an organized system it is much older than Christianity, about 40,000 years.
Norse Rede of Honor
From the book "The Rites of Odin" by Ed Fitch
1. In all that you do, consider its benefit or harm upon yourself, your children and your people.
2. All that which you do will return to you, sooner or later, for good or for ill. Thus strive always to do good to others, or at least strive always to be just.
3. Be honest with yourself, and with others. "This above all; to thine own self be true."
4. Humankind, and especially your own family and folk, has the spark of divinity within it. Protect and nurture that spark.
5. Give your word sparingly, and adhere to it like iron.
6. In the world, your first trust and responsibility should be to your own people. Yet, be kind and proper to others whenever possible.
7. What you have, HOLD!
8. Pass on to others only those words which you have personally verified.
9. Be honest with others, and let them know that you expect honesty in return, always.
10. The fury of the moment plays folly with the truth; to keep one's head is a virtue.
11. Know which battles should be fought, and which battles should be avoided. Also, know when to break off a conflict. There are times when the minions of chaos are simply too strong or when fate is absolutely unavoidable.
12. When you gain power, use it carefully and use it well.
13. Courage and honor endure forever. Their echoes remain when the mountains have crumbled to dust.
14. Pledge friendship and your services to those who are worthy. Strengthen others of your people and they will strengthen you.
15. Love and care for your family always, and have the fierceness of a wolf in their protection.
16. Honor yourself, have pride in yourself, do your best and forgive yourself when you must.
17. Try always to be above reproach in the eyes of the world.
18. Those of our people should always endure to settle any differences among themselves quietly and peaceably.
19. The laws of the land should be obeyed whenever possible and reason, for in the main they have been chosen with wisdom.
20. Have pride in yourself, your family and your folk. They are your promise for the future.
21. Do not neglect your mate and children.
22. Every one of our people should work according to the best that s/he can do, no matter how small or how great. We are all in this world together, thus we must always help each other along.
23. One advances individually and collectively only by living in harmony with the natural order of the world.
24. The seeking of wisdom is a high virtue. Love of truth, honor, courage and loyalty are the hallmarks of the noble soul.
25. Be prepared for whatever the future brings.
26. Life with all its joys, struggles and
ambiguities is to be embraced and lived to the fullest!
[Edited on 6/12/2008 1:08 AM]
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| Jun 12, 2008 @ 1:23 AM |
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SunBabe
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Isn't it amazing how similar that is to "social contracts" throughout every successful culture in history.  
I could accept that "Rede of Honor" in a heartbeat. 
 Or maybe I have, and just didn't have a name for it. 
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| Jun 12, 2008 @ 1:41 AM |
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uncrazy
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Karmafury,
The 40,000 year date would make it contemporary with an arrival date I found for Adam and Eve in Eden. If I remember right, eden was a sumerian word for grassy plain.
Odin was known as a ring lord... who held a ring that held 8 others together. I will relish looking for the links from Anu to the Norse king lines.
Edited to correct ring count.
[Edited on 6/12/2008 2:01 AM]
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| Jun 12, 2008 @ 1:47 AM |
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LipGlossQueen9
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| Jun 12, 2008 @ 2:30 AM |
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uncrazy
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Karmafury,
It is time for me to re-read the Norse mythology of the Volsunga Saga.
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| Jun 12, 2008 @ 7:39 AM |
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sail_dancer
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Karma,
Great post! Hope you continue to provide more information about Asatru and how it has affected your life.
Reading the Rede of Honor was a joy. Written in a positive tone while gently warning about the negative. When people start to realize that all religions are based on the same basic rules for living a good and healthy life, we may someday acheive a peaceful world based on the idea of:1. In all that you do, consider its benefit or harm upon yourself, your children and your people.
2. All that which you do will return to you, sooner or later, for good or for ill. Thus strive always to do good to others, or at least strive always to be just.
All religions are based on the law of karma whether they want to admit it or not. Many religions fail to stress the positive and use negative forces that are harmful to spiritual growth.
Eagerly awaiting additional info.
Peace
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| Jun 12, 2008 @ 10:01 AM |
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LanceVarden7
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| Jun 12, 2008 @ 10:07 AM |
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loisday
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WOW!
What sound statements. Thank you for sharing. Each a nugget of gold.
I really liked this:
4. Humankind, and especially your own family and folk, has the spark of divinity within it. Protect and nurture that spark.
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| Jun 12, 2008 @ 10:25 AM |
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16knots
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Being a Brit I could never see much in the Norse religions. It boiled down... plunder, rape and pillage! 
Second thoughts.......  sounds pretty darn good! 
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| Jun 12, 2008 @ 10:26 AM |
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sail_dancer
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I really liked this: 4. Humankind, and especially your own family and folk, has the spark of divinity within it. Protect and nurture that spark.
Yes Lois!
That is the spark I have mentioned many times in my posts.
Isn't it enlightening that ancient religions reflect the better doctrines contained in our current religious dogma. When you take away the hell, damnation, and the darker side of current day dogma, and a beautiful message, contained in all religions, is revealed.
Peace
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| Jun 12, 2008 @ 10:35 AM |
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16knots
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| Jun 12, 2008 @ 10:40 AM |
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loisday
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plunder, rape and pillage
Knotty............Set Sail...{pun intended}....... 
Cross the pond......through the St. Lawerence...into the Great Lakes............around to Lake Michigan...........
Rape and pillage available..................
Sail...I liked them all.....but anything about that "spark" gets my attention.........
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| Jun 12, 2008 @ 10:47 AM |
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16knots
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Lois... Hell No! I can take a flight from here in Texas and be there in an hour!
I really liked the OP. Very wise words indeed.
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| Jun 12, 2008 @ 11:04 AM |
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hunt4luv
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CHOOSE YOU THIS DAY
choose wisely things are not allways as they apear to be.
the rewards and consequences go with every choice.
again I say Choose wisely.
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| Jun 12, 2008 @ 11:06 AM |
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16knots
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*sigh!
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| Jun 12, 2008 @ 11:42 AM |
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sail_dancer
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Hunt is like Midas. But in his case every thread he enters gets dark and sinister.
Actually if you know how well Hunt spells, you won't be surprised that he intended his handle to be "HAUNT"!
Peace
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| Jun 12, 2008 @ 12:05 PM |
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hunt4luv
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Asatru is frequently regarded as one of the Neopagan family of religions. That family includes Wicca, Celtic Druidism, and re-creations of Egyptian, Greek, Roman, and other ancient Pagan religions. However, many Asatruers prefer the term "Heathen" to "Neopagan" and look upon their tradition as "not just a branch on the Neopagan tree" but as a separate tree. Unlike Wicca, which has gradually evolved into many different traditions, the reconstruction of Asatru has been based on the surviving historical record. Its followers have maintained it as closely as possible to the original religion of the Norse people.
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| Jun 12, 2008 @ 12:07 PM |
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hunt4luv
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Asatru Beliefs:
Asatru is a polytheistic religion. There are three races of Deities in the Norse pantheon. They are all regarded as living entities who are involved in human life: The Aesir: These are the Gods of the tribe or clan, representing Kingship, order, craft, etc.
The Vanir: These represent the fertility of the earth and forces of nature. They are associated with the clan but are not part of it.
The Jotnar: These are giants who are in a constant state of war with the Aesir. They represent chaos and destruction. At the battle of Ragnarok, many of the Gods will die, the world will come to an end and be reborn.
Specific Gods: Some of the more important are: Thor is the Thunderer, who wields Mjolnir, the divine Hammer. His chariot racing across the sky generates thunder. Thursday (Thor's Day) was named after him.
Odin is the one-eyed God; he gave up one of his eyes in order to drink from the Fountain of Knowledge (some sources say Fountain of Wisdom). He is a magician. He learned the secrets of the runes (Northern European alphabet) by hanging himself on the tree Yggdrasil for nine nights.
Frey (a.k.a. Freyr) is the God of fertility, the weather and farming. He was born on the Winter Solstice, typically December 21. His father was Njord.
Specific Goddesses: Some important ones are: Freya (aka Freyja) is the Goddess of love, beauty and sexuality, and perhaps a dozen other attributes. She leads the Valkyries who take the souls of slain soldiers to Valhall (Odin's great hall).
Frigg is Odin's wife. Her name has been secularized to a slang term which refers to sexual intercourse. She is the patroness of the household and of married women.
Skadi is the Goddess of independence, death, hunting and skiing. Scandinavia may have been named after her.
Ostara, is a Goddess of fertility who is celebrated at the time of the Spring equinox. She was known by the Saxons as Eostre, the Goddess of Spring, from whom we have derived the word Easter. Ostara's symbols are the hare and the egg.
Other Entities Other Deities are Aegir, Balder, Bragi, Forseti, Heimdall, Hel, Loki, Njord, Ran, Tyr, Ull and Vithar. Followers of Asatru also honor the Landvaettir (land spirits) of the forest, earth and streams.
Life Values: Asatruars in North America have created a list of Nine Noble Virtues: Courage, Truth, Honor, Fidelity, Discipline, Hospitality, Industriousness, Self-Reliance and Perseverance. The family is greatly valued and honored. They reject any form of discrimination based on ethnicity, gender, language, nationality, race, sexual orientation, or "other divisive criteria".
Origins: Humanity is literally descended from the Gods. Three brothers, Odin, Vili, and Ve created people from two trees and gave them the names Ask and Embla. One deity, Rig visited the earth and established the social classes.
Od: This is the gift of ecstasy provided to humans by the Gods. It is what separates humanity from other animals, and is our eternal link with the Gods.
Creation Story: A poem Voluspa (Prophecy of the Seeress) contains an Asatru story of the creation of the universe. Between Muspelheim (The Land of Fire) and Niflheim the Land of Ice was an empty space called Ginnungigap. The fire and ice moved towards each other; when they collided, the universe came into being. Odin, Vili and Ve later created the world from the body of a giant that they had slain.
After death: Those who die in battle will be carried to Valhall by the Valkyries. There they will eat Saehrimnir (a pig that is daily slaughtered and resurrected) with the Gods. The Goddess Hel (who's name has been borrowed by Christians) rules over dishonorable people (oath breakers) and those who die ingloriously of old age. Niflhel is the the abode for all others.
The end of the world: Ragnarök (a.k.a. Ragnarøkkr, Ragnarøk, Ragnarok; literally the fate of the Gods) is the anticipated apocalypse. It involves a great battle between the Gods and the Jötnar -- a race of giants with superhuman strength. Unlike Revelation in the Christian Scriptures, prophecies of Ragnarök are very specific: the events leading up to the battle, the timing of the battle, who will kill whom, etc. are all known. Wolves will eat the sun and moon. The stars will stop shining. Mountains will fall; trees will be uprooted; "Fumes will reek and flames will burst, scorching the sky with fire. The earth will sink into the sea." Most of the Gods will die. Only one woman and one man, Lifthrasir and Lif, will survive. Their offspring will eventually repopulate the world and live in peace. 13
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| Jun 12, 2008 @ 12:10 PM |
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hammertime
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Specific Goddesses: Some important ones are: Freya (aka Freyja) is the Goddess of love, beauty and sexuality, and perhaps a dozen other attributes. She leads the Valkyries who take the souls of slain soldiers to Valhall (Odin's great hall).
Frigg is Odin's wife. Her name has been secularized to a slang term which refers to sexual intercourse.
That makes me Friggen Freya Happy..
Hunt,
Now you got to find the goddess of breath holding and  for a whole hour.
[Edited on 6/12/2008 12:11 PM]
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| Jun 12, 2008 @ 12:10 PM |
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hunt4luv
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Those of you who claim Christianity and applaud this may wish to think again.
their is much information at your fingertips about this belief just a click away . I suggest you read it. You will see that It is in direct disagreement with Christianity and Jud-ism
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