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Thor1960303
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We've discussed the Bible's connection to astrology, or perhaps more accurately astrotheology. Since no one here has commented on the Aquarian Gospel, I'll submit this link for discussion..Opinions??
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| Jun 30 @ 12:15 PM |
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sail_dancer
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I just started reading it and it will take a while to finish.
Chapter 8 was interesting:14. If you would ask me what to study I would say, yourselves; and when you will have studied them, and then would ask me what to study next, I would reply, yourselves.
15. He who knows well his lower self, knows the illusions of the world, knows of the things that pass away; and he who knows his higher self, know God; knows well the things that cannot pass away.
16. Thrice blessed is the man who has made purity and love his very own; he has been ransomed from the perils of the lower self and is himself his higher self.
17. Men seek salvation from an evil that they deem a living monster of the nether world; and they have gods that are but demons in disguise; all powerful, yet full of jealousy and hate and lust;
18. Whose favours must be bought with costly sacrifice of fruits, and of the lives of birds, and animals, and human kind.
19. And yet these gods possess no ears to hear, no eyes to see, no heart to sympathise, no power to save.
20. This evil is myth; these gods are made of air, clothed with shadows of a thought.
21. The only devil from which men must be redeemed is self, the lower self. If man would find his devil he must look within; his name is self.
22. If man would find his saviour he must look within; and when the demon self has been dethroned the saviour, Love, will be exulted to the throne of power.
23. The David of the light is Purity, who slays the strong Goliath of the dark, and seats the saviour, Love, upon the throne. Seems to have strong Eastern beliefs.
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| Jun 30 @ 4:14 PM |
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uncrazy
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Sail,
17. Men seek salvation from an evil that they deem a living monster of the nether world; and they have gods that are but demons in disguise; all powerful, yet full of jealousy and hate and lust;
18. Whose favours must be bought with costly sacrifice of fruits, and of the lives of birds, and animals, and human kind.
19. And yet these gods possess no ears to hear, no eyes to see, no heart to sympathise, no power to save.
20. This evil is myth; these gods are made of air, clothed with shadows of a thought.
21. The only devil from which men must be redeemed is self, the lower self. If man would find his devil he must look within; his name is self.
22. If man would find his saviour he must look within; and when the demon self has been dethroned the saviour, Love, will be exulted to the throne of power.
This book is an excellent read.
The devil is so necessary to man's current understanding of God. Even though Jesus said the kingdom of God is within, the churches will not have us look within in our present lives, but looking outside us to be found only at death.
All that is required...love God, and your neighbors as yourself.
Read an author recently talking of the American religion, where we have displaced God the Father with our worship of Jesus.
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| Jun 30 @ 4:25 PM |
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sealacamp
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We've discussed the Bible's connection to astrology
The only connection is Gods condemnation of those that adhere to this belief system.
we have displaced God the Father with our worship of Jesus.
They are one in the same therefore no displacement has occurred. What has happened is a completion of Gods revelation to mankind. And this revelation shows the separate and yet joined selfs of God the Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit. Three separate yet three in one, a paradox beyond the ability of the human mind to grasp.
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| Jun 30 @ 4:36 PM |
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uncrazy
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We've discussed the Bible's connection to astrology
We hear it condemned yet the same books talk of three magician/astrologers following an astral event to find Jesus. Words were likely misplaced saying that while they followed a star to Jesus, God was displeased.
The magic of Moses overcame the magic of pharoahs priests, magic and astrology remain proper if about or attributed to the correct god, and improper from the wrong god.
The science of the Ark would have been magic in the day seen. We can build a model of the box today and the science of the just the box would not be understood by most people without an understanding of basic science. Then add the umma and thummin...then we have magic...of course there will be no room in the ark until we get the tablets of the movie Moses out. Then there is that pesky book of Jasher, referenced in the bible but excluded from the canon.
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| Jun 30 @ 5:05 PM |
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eastham
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We hear it condemned yet the same books talk of three magician/astrologers following an astral event to find Jesus.
Very good point.
I, myself, have never heard of the Aquarian Gospel until reading this thread. This forum is always interesting. Thank you Thor for bringing this to my attention.
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| Jul 1 @ 8:45 AM |
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sail_dancer
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Thor,
Thank you for starting this thread. The Aquarian Gospel is a combination of many beliefs both East and West blended in such a way to unify mankind and not polarize mankind into opposing groups. It depicts Jesus as a master that was trained in different religious doctrines and the truths he found in each.
Here is an interesting exerpt from Chapter 22:25. Lamaas asked, Pray, what is faith?
26. And Jesus said, Faith is the surety of the omnipotence of God and man; the certainty that man will reach the deific life.
27. Salvation is a ladder reaching from the heart of man to heart of God.
28. It has three steps; Belief is first, and this is what man thinks, perhaps, is truth.
29. And faith is next, and this is what man knows is truth.
30. Fruition is the last, and this is man himself, the truth.
31. Belief is lost in faith; and in fruition is lost; and man is saved when he has reached deific life; when he and God are one. I can see why this gospel was very popular in the 1960's among the Hippies and Flower Children.
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| Jul 1 @ 9:31 AM |
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Thor1960303
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I can see why this gospel was very popular in the 1960's among the Hippies and Flower Children.
Peace
I learned about it in 1973 when my mom got interested in Spiritualism and Edgar Cayce. A very interesting group that believes in psychic phenomena and communication with the dead. Although they had a pastor and an assistant pastor, every service had a different speaker, sometimes they would have channelers who would go into a trance and give messages supposedly from spirits. Interesting, but still not sure I believe it. Messages were often ambiguous and could be interpreted many different ways.
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| Jul 15 @ 10:05 AM |
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sail_dancer
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The Aquarian Gospel tells of Jesus’ education in Egypt and his attaining the highest degree in the Heliopolis Brotherhood, “The Christ”.
Here is a summary of what happens in SECTION XI and SECTION XII of the Aquarian Gospel:SECTION XI: Life and Works of Jesus in Egypt
Jesus with Elihu and Salome in Egypt. Tells the story of his journeys. Elihu and Salome praise God. Jesus goes to the temple in Heliopolis and is received as a pupil.
First Test: Jesus receives from the hierophant his mystic name and number. Passes the first brotherhood test, and receives his first degree, SINCERITY.
Second Teat: Jesus passes the second brotherhood test, and receives the second degree, JUSTICE.
Third Test: Jesus passes the third brotherhood test, and receives the third degree, FAITH.
Fourth Test: Jesus passes the fourth brotherhood test, and receives the fourth degree, PHILANTHROPY.
Fifth Test: Jesus spends forty days in the temple groves. Passes the fifth brotherhood test and receives the fifth degree, HEROISM.
Sixth Test: Jesus passes the sixth brotherhood test and receives the sixth degree, LOVE DIVINE.
Seventh Test: Jesus becomes a private pupil of the hierophant and is taught the mysteries of Egypt. In passing the seventh test, he works in the Chamber of the Dead, and in the purple room of the temple receives the seventh, the highest degree, THE CHRIST. He leaves the temple a conqueror.
SECTIONXII: The Council of the Seven Sages of the World
The seven sages of the world meet in Alexandria. The purposes of the meeting. The opening addresses.
Meeting of the sages, continued. Opening addresses. Seven days' silence.
Meeting of the sages, continued. Presentation of the seven universal postulates.
Meeting of the sages, continued. The remaining postulates. The sages bless Jesus. Seven days' silence.
Section XII concludes with the following chapter that I will quote in entirety:Chapter 60: Jesus addresses the seven sages. The address. Jesus goes to Galilee.
1. The seven days of silence passed and Jesus, sitting with the sages said:
2. The history of life is well condensed in these immortal postulates. These are the seven hills on which the holy city shall be built.
3. These are the seven sure foundation stones on which the Universal Church shall stand.
4. In taking up the work assigned for me to do I am full conscious of the perils of the way; the cup will be a bitter one to drink and human nature well might shrink.
5. But I have lost my will in that of Holy Breath, and so I go my way to speak and act by Holy Breath.
6. The words I speak are not my own; they are the words of him whose will I do.
7. Man is not far enough advanced in sacred thought to comprehend the Universal Church, and so the work that God has given me to do is not the building of that Church.
8. I am a model maker, sent to make a pattern of the Church that is to be--a pattern that the age may comprehend.
9. My task as model builder lies within my native land, and there, upon the postulate that Love is son of God, that I am come to manifest that Love, the Model Church will stand.
10. And from the men of low estate I will select twelve men, who represent the twelve immortal thoughts; and these will be the Model Church.
11. The house of Judah, my own kindred in the flesh, will comprehend but little of my mission to the world.
12. And they will spurn me, scorn my work, accuse me falsely, bind me, take me to the judgement seat of carnal men who will convict and slay me on the cross.
13. But men can never slay the truth; though banished it will come again in greater power; for truth will subjugate the world.
14. The Model Church will live. Though carnal man will prostitute its sacred laws, symbolic rites and forms, for selfish ends, and make it but an outward show, the few will find through it the kingdom of the soul.
15. And when the better age shall come the Universal Church will stand upon the seven postulates, and will be built according to the pattern given.
16. The time has come; I go my way unto Jerusalem, and by the power of living faith, and by the strength that you have given.
17. And in the name of God, our Father-God, the kingdom of the soul shall be established on the seven hills.
18. And all the peoples, tribes and tongues of earth shall enter in.
19. The Prince of Peace will take his seat upon the throne of power; the Triune God will then be All in All.
20. And all the sages said, Amen.
21. And Jesus went his way, and after many days, he reached Jerusalem; and then he sought his home in Galilee.
I found these sections very interesting and many parallels with my own understanding of the meaning of “The Christ”.
Note: The term "Triune God" used in this Gospel refers to a trinity of Father-Mother-Child which I am still investigating.
If you wish to read the Aquarian Gospel, here is a link:
The Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ
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| Jul 18 @ 3:24 PM |
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Thor1960303
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Thanks, Sail, excellent research.  Out of all of the versions of the Christ story, this is the one I find the most intriguing.
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sail_dancer
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The Aquarian Gospel is very interesting since it basically retells some of the stories contained in the canonical gospels. A good example is its description of Jesus' 40 days in the wilderness where he was tempted.
Chapter 65:Jesus goes to the wilderness for self-examination, where he remains forty days. Is subjected to three temptations. He overcomes. Returns to the camps of John and begins teaching.
1. The harbinger had paved the way; the Logos had been introduced to men as love made manifest, and he must now begin his Christine ministry.
2. And he went forth into the wilderness to be alone with God that he might look into his inner heart, and note its strength and worthiness.
3. And with himself he talked; he said, My lower self is strong; by many ties I am bound down to carnal life.
4. Have I the strength to overcome and give my life a willing sacrifice for men?
5. When I shall stand before the face of men, and they demand a proof of my messiahship, what will I say?
6. And then the tempter came and said, If you be son of God, command these stones to turn to bread.
7. And Jesus said, Who is it that demands a test? It is no sign that one is son of God because he does a miracle; the devils can do mighty things.
8. Did not the black magicians do great things before the Pharaohs?
9. My words and deeds in all the walks of life shall be the proof of my messiahship.
10. And then the tempter said, If you will go into Jerusalem, and from the temple pinnacle cast down yourself to earth, the people will believe that you are the Messiah sent from God.
11. This you can surely do; for did not David say, He gives his angels charge concerning you, and with their will they uphold lest you should fall?
12. And Jesus said, I may not tempt the Lord, my God.
13. And then the tempter said, Look forth upon the world; behold its honours and its fame! Behold its pleasures and its wealth!
14. If you will give your life for these they shall be yours.
15. But Jesus said, Away from me all tempting thoughts. My heart is fixed; I spurn this carnal self with all its vain ambition and its pride.
16. For forty days did Jesus wrestle with his carnal self; his higher self Prevailed. He then was hungry, but his friends had found him and they ministered to him.
17. Then Jesus left the wilderness and in the consciousness of Holy breath, he came unto the camps of John and taught. The description of Jesus' internal conflict between his higher and lower self is something that all of us can understand since we all are constantly doing this. There is no devil, the devil is a symbol of our lower self (carnal) and god is the symbol of our higher self (spirit). Jesus had to confront these temptations the same way we do. When Jesus tells us that the first thing we must do if find the kingdom, he is talking about out higher selves. That is why he said the kingdom is within us.
The important thing here is to realize that all holy writings are fables designed to teach us something. Seems to me that looking at the conflict between the devil and god as the internal conflicts we have all experienced, is far more logical than the existence of an actual devil and god that have been in constant battle for 10,000 years or more.
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| Jul 21 @ 8:40 AM |
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sail_dancer
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This is one of the first gospels that reflects my opinion of Jesus giving up his life for others.
Chapter 66:15. And Peter said, We long have sought for Christ. We came from Galilee to John; we thought that he was Christ, but he confessed to us that he was not;
16. That he was but the harbinger sent forth to clear the way, and make the pathway easy for the coming king; and when you came he said, Behold the Christ!
17. And we would gladly follow where you go. Lord, tell us what to do.
18. And Jesus said, The foxes of the earth have homes, the birds have nests; I have no, place to lay my head.
19. He who would follow me must give up all cravings of the self and lose his life in saving life.
20. I come to save the lost, and man is saved when he is rescued from himself. But men are slow to comprehend this doctrine of the Christ. I have always felt that the canonical gospels were altered to say that Jesus was sacrificed for our salvation. I always thought that Jesus gave up a normal life in order to help others awaken to their higher self.
This gospel equates giving up all cravings of the lower self to attain your higher self as loosing your life (carnal life). Once an individual finds his higher self, he should help others to shed their lower self thus saving them from themselves (their lower self or carnal self).
I equate the death of the lower self and the finding of the higher self is what Jesus considered being "born again".
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| Jul 21 @ 9:06 AM |
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sail_dancer
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And what does this gospel say about Jesus' purpose and what we must do to find our higher self?
Chapter 68:10. I am not sent to sit upon a throne to rule as Cæsar rules; and you may tell the ruler of the Jews that I am not a claimant for his throne.
11. Men call me Christ, and God has recognised the name; but Christ is not a man. The Christ is universal love, and Love is king.
12. This Jesus is but man who has been fitted by temptations overcome, by trials multiform, to be the temple through which Christ can manifest to men.
13. Then hear, you men of Israel, hear! Look not upon the flesh; it is not king. Look to the Christ within, who shall be formed in every one of you, as he is formed in me.
14. When you have purified your hearts by faith, the king will enter in, and you will see his face.
15. And then the people asked, What must we do that we may make our bodies fit abiding places for the king?
16. And Jesus said, Whatever tends to purity in thought, and word, and deed will cleanse the temple of the flesh.
17. There are no rules that can apply to all, for men are specialists in sin; each has his own besetting sin,
18. And each must study for himself how he can best transmute his tendency to evil things to that of righteousness and love.
19. Until men reach the higher plane, and get away from selfishness, this rule will give the best results:
20. Do unto other men what you would have them do to you.
The passage speaks for itself.
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bevrice
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Lol, twisted and perverted, the key is the fact that it says there is no devil. The devil loves to make people think that he doesn't exist, his favorite ploy.
That stuff is garbage. I won't comment on it anymore, nor will I read anymore of that stuff, gee.
If you believe that stuff, sail, then you have no Lord, no saviour for the Jewish prophecy concerning the messiah have not been fulfilled. So, now you can call yourself Jewish, I guess.
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| Jul 21 @ 1:26 PM |
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bevrice
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Lol, thor, you are in trouble now, you used WIKIPEDIA which many in here state is not authoratative nor a good source.
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| Jul 21 @ 1:29 PM |
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hammertime
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The devil loves to make people think that he doesn't exist, his favorite ploy. But people know that you exist. Is that your ploy?
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bevrice
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Sail,
I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep.
Simply a quote from Jesus, sail, which quotes I thought you believed.
This is not the only time He mentions that he is come to die for you.
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hammertime
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I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep. Who said that? Thats garbage because a dead shepherd means the sheep run wild and get eaten by wolves.
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| Jul 21 @ 2:29 PM |
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sail_dancer
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Bev,
If you believe that stuff, sail, then you have no Lord, no saviour for the Jewish prophecy concerning the messiah have not been fulfilled. So, now you can call yourself Jewish, I guess. Actually I consider myself to be an individual with an open mind that when reading the bible sees it for what it is ....... a book of fables written to teach morality.
The jews never speak of a devil, they speak of Satan. Christians invented the devil when they concocted their sick dogma.
Jesus' ministry was to teach us that we are our own enemies. That the devil is our carnal (lower} self. He also taught that the kingdom can be found within us also, our spiritual (higher) self.
I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep.
Simply a quote from Jesus, sail, which quotes I thought you believed.
This is not the only time He mentions that he is come to die for you. How many shepherds actually will die for one of his sheep? The shepherd dedicates his life to his sheep and that is what Jesus meant.
The four gospels never say that Jesus will "die". The only thing close is John 18.32, but the verse says it is signifying (meaning a symbol).
Christians would like poeple to think that Jesus died for their so called sins at the hands of the Jews to polarize people. Jesus did not "die" for our sins, he "dedicated (gave up) his life to teach people how to awaken to their higher self.
Peace
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j_goose
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Lol, thor, you are in trouble now, you used WIKIPEDIA which many in here state is not authoratative nor a good source.
It's not. didn't you see what I did in that other thread? Let me refresh your memory...I made a page saying "God the Father likes Bazooka Bubble Gum."
So yeah, Wikipedia bites.
As long as you post a page containing 500+ words, it'll stay on Wiki for a while...
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