| Jul 17 @ 7:42 AM |
Poll: Do "most Christians know that the end is near already"?
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sail_dancer
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Over the last few days many posts have contained this message.
Do you as a christian agree with this statement?
Do any non-christians feel that the end times are upon us?
I myself think it is a lot of crock.
Peace
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| Jul 17 @ 7:53 AM |
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hammertime
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I think if someone's life is mostly over then the end is near. Its a pretty depressing way of looking at life but this is a death cult we are talking about. We did see an example of death cult fantasy in action when one young lady posted in the forums feelings she was going to die. A Christian told her, if she's Christian she shouldn't worry about dying instead of telling her to seek medical help. Death was the desired effect, not life. This is the damage and lack of moral judgment that infects the minds of those who worship in a death cult.
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| Jul 17 @ 9:03 AM |
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bevrice
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Any Chirsitan who knows Bible prophecy and believes in the Bible knows the signs are right and that it is the first time in all of history that all of the prophecies have all been fulfilled.
As to dying, we all have to die someday, gee. We can accept that fact or run in fear of it for all our lives. If we are Christians, then death is not to be feared, it is the beginning of a beautiful life, just the beginning. This life down here is but a tiny second in time in comparison to what we have waiting for us. The Bible says we should cry when a baby is born and rejoice when a person dies and goes to heaven. We cry when we lose our loved ones for ourselves, because we miss them and love them. As Christians, we know we will be with them again before we know it, our life will go on and go on in Heaven, a beautiful, wonderous life awaits us.
My grandmother died during her hysterectomy, she said she left her body, looked down on it and had the most wonderous and beautiful peace that you could ever imagine. She said all that she wanted to do was to go tell her dad and my grand dad, who were out in the waiting room, not to ever fear death, that it was beautiful.
My grandmother lived to be eighty something years old, but was NEVER afraid of dying again.
[Edited on 7/17/2008 9:07 AM]
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| Jul 17 @ 9:07 AM |
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hammertime
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So you agree that a young girl would have a better life if she died rather than seek medical help..
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| Jul 17 @ 9:10 AM |
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bevrice
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No she should live her life out down here first, but you know, there are somethings that doctors can't do. There are things she can do for others here and should be around to do them, you know.
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| Jul 17 @ 9:17 AM |
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hammertime
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So if she thought she was dying should seek medical help? Why would a Christian then tell her if she's a Christian not to worry instead of telling her to get a medical exam?
As for If we are Christians, then death is not to be feared, it is the beginning of a beautiful life, Those who live in the real world see such a death cult dogma as psychopathic. Its nothing but a dream and a wish for those who are ignorant and fear death so much they fantasize a beautiful life after they die. Who wants to do? Pretty much no one. Sad for folks who live their lives in a dream and can't accept reality and make the best of it while here.
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| Jul 17 @ 9:28 AM |
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bevrice
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Of course she should see a doctor. God means us to live a full life here, a long life, He never intended that we should ever die, you know.
You can live in your own delusions that you will never have to face judgement and that this is the only life you will have, that is sad. Man has always known that there is much more than this life and have always sought eternity, you know. That is innate in man. Just because we move on to a better life doesn't mean that we don't live this one to the best of our abililities, you know, and enjoy it. Life, is holy, God-given and beautiful.
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| Jul 17 @ 10:03 AM |
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bevrice
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The Mayan calender says the world will end in December of 2012, December the 21st. Sumerians, Tibetans, Egyptians, Cherokees, Hopi, and Mayans all have the same belief about the end of the world time.
[Edited on 7/17/2008 10:19 AM]
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| Jul 17 @ 10:10 AM |
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hammertime
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Actually for me I face judgment daily. I like it that way. I don't dwell on death as Christians do. Life is now. I'd hate to miss it as the nutters always do. But the nutters don't notice it. Out of sight, out of mind for you. Being filled with religious fantasy doesn't give you the time and that causes you to miss an eternity. Eternity is experienced while you are alive. But nutters as you are dead while alive. Hell is a state of mind. Hell is a place where you don't feel or know realty. You are in it.
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| Jul 17 @ 11:37 AM |
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LanceVarden7
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No one knows the end is near. Anyone who procaims they do, is trying to add a little granduer to themselves.
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| Jul 17 @ 11:42 AM |
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j_goose
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Most Christians don't even know what the Bible says.
Most Chfristians don't practice what the bible says.
Most Christians don't know the history of the bible.
So I'd have to say "NOPE, They don't know when the end is either"
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| Jul 17 @ 11:44 AM |
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j_goose
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The Mayan calender says the world will end in December of 2012, December the 21st. Sumerians, Tibetans, Egyptians, Cherokees, Hopi, and Mayans all have the same belief about the end of the world time.
Make up your FKING mind....
You said in another thread that Christianity is the one true religion....
Now you're believing all these others as well...
Jesus is mad at you...... 
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| Jul 17 @ 11:49 AM |
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bevrice
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Well, goose, I guess I am not most Christians, but MOST do know what the Bible says, I do know Bible history, and most people do, and NO ONE is perfect, you know.
I DO NOT know when the end will come, no one does, but Jesus gave us signs to look for and the Bible gives us prophecies that show us to be ready.
Goose, I put that in there for sail, who thinks it is crock because it is biblical.
Actually, the mayans predictions were from science and study, not from religion, you know.
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| Jul 17 @ 11:59 AM |
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hammertime
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What science? Astrology? The bible is full of astrology isn't it?
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| Jul 17 @ 12:34 PM |
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kattsmeow
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Bev:
Any Chirsitan who knows Bible prophecy and believes in the Bible knows the signs are right and that it is the first time in all of history that all of the prophecies have all been fulfilled.
I hate to disagree with you, but the Temple hasn't been rebuilt yet, a long with some other stuff.
The end is not near. If so, there is nothing anyone could do is there?
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| Jul 17 @ 1:26 PM |
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sail_dancer
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Bev,
I put that in there for sail, who thinks it is crock because it is biblical. I think it is crock because the bible doesn't describe the end of the world but the end of the age or aeon. Christians base their beliefs on bad or misleading translations of the Greek NT.
So yes! I think you are a lot of crock.
Peace
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| Jul 17 @ 1:55 PM |
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sail_dancer
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This thread was supposed to be a poll. Please cutout the debates. If you wish to debate this topic, start a thread to do so.
I just wanted to know how many christians actually agreed with this statement.
Peace
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| Jul 17 @ 2:16 PM |
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j_goose
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Sorry sail....
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| Jul 17 @ 2:22 PM |
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LaughTillYaPuke
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Nope. I think it's all just another way of getting people to panic. I find that we humans tend to do outragous things when we fear for our lives.
Today.
Tomorrow.
Whatever.
Just make it quick an painless. And in the mean time, I plan on throughly enjoying myself. 
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| Jul 17 @ 2:30 PM |
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bevrice
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Katt, I think it says it takes only three and a half years to rebuild the temple.
Most sites say that the preparation for the rebuilding has already taken place.
The Plans for the Temple
According to experts, detailed blueprints for the Third Temple have existed for the past four years. The plans were drawn according to the primary sources of information: the Bible, Josephus, and the Mishnah tractate known as Middot ("Measurements"). Other structures, including the Sanhedrin complex, have also been planned or actually built. The restored Temple complex envisioned by Ezekiel, is to be thirty times larger than that of previous Temples. The legal stipulations that the Sanhedrin will use to govern Israel's relationship to the rebuilt Temple and its services have already been researched and are in the process of being published by the Research Center for Jewish Thought under the direction of Yoel Lerner.
Preparation for the Temple
Shortly after the national commemoration of Tisha B'Av in the Jewish year 5763 (August 7, 2003), the authorities opened the gate of the Temple Mount. Now that Israeli sovereignty has been re-asserted over the site and the gate to the Temple Mount promised "never again to be closed to Israelis and non-Muslims," how long will the Israeli authorities tolerate Palestinian Authority control over the Temple? A first stage in the liberation of the Temple Mount seems to have been taken. Will it, in fact, lead to other stages that will in turn conclude with the rebuilding of the Temple?
Since 1987, the Temple Institute, a group of rabbinical researchers, designers, and craftsmen, has been creating in the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem what they call a "Temple-in-waiting." Among the 103 Temple items that have, or are in the process of being recreated are: apparel for the High Priest, sacrificial incense spices, urns, incense pans, the golden lavar, and the stone vessel (kelal) for grinding and holding the purifying ashes of the red heifer, the golden menorah (lampstand), silver trumpets, the Golden Altar of Incense, and the Table of Shewbread. Other building projects include a full scale altar for the training of the priests. The Ark of the Covenant is believed to exist in a chamber under the Temple Mount. Another group active in the rebuilding of the Third Temple, the Temple Mount Faithful, has brought three cornerstones to Jerusalem from Mitzpe Ramon in the Negev. It is one of the few places in the Land of Israel where the character and color of the stone is similar to that from which the First and Second Temples were made.
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