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bevrice
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 Me, too, gray. Lol, goose, they were left out for a reason. Go figure it out.
You might try for a spontaneous healing as well, why you are at it. Maybe, you can get one like I did. I broke my right leg, compound fracture in seventy eight. Two years on crutches three operations, which left my left leg about a half to an inch shorter than the other. My doctor told me it was shorter. I went into a church. I had never told anyone that it was shorter and by looking at me or watching me walk, you couldn't tell that.
The minister had never seen me before. He looked at me and said, "I don't like to do this, but, one of your legs is shorter than the other. He sat me down in a chair and everyone in the congregation saw it grow. Now it was broken down by my ankle, a ski boot fracture, which means it was shorter from the knee down. I can measure both of my legs from the knee down now and they are EXACTLY the same length. Bones don't grow after you reach thirty something, you know.
[Edited on 7/19/2008 8:44 AM]
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| Jul 19 @ 8:45 AM |
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hammertime
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The bible is compilation of scribbles all written by men, some were stoned (as in mentally) and many scribbles are contradictions and heresies. Scribbles are nice reading but are all from someone else's imagination. The Jesus character is a composite of earlier man-god myths but just because Jesus is a fictional character doesn't make him all that bad. Of course most if it is just plain old superstition.
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| Jul 19 @ 8:47 AM |
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hammertime
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Yeah, all healing is natural. No gods involved. No healing for people who are mentally retarded, deformed, lost limbs, failing organs needing a transplant. Not one soldier ever grew back a new arm or leg. Christianity in this sense is complete bullshit and is itself a cancer. Christianity can not cure any virus either as it is a virus itself. No self cures there.
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| Jul 19 @ 8:51 AM |
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bevrice
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The word says, "so be it unto you according to your faith." I have heard of people regrowing limbs, hammer. There is a lady minister online who did just that. She has the doctor's statements, the x-rays, the whole documentation.
Hmm, mentally retarded. I have a grand daughter who has velo cardio facial syndrom. Go read on it, they have less brain matter than other people. She was in special classes. When we found that she had that, I prayed for her, she is in regular classes now and doing very very well.
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| Jul 19 @ 8:51 AM |
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hammertime
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Christianity is a flim flam religion of false promises and lies. Its the only religion where people make millions of tax free dollars because its the only religion with the most gullible people. Christianity feeds into the stupidity and ignorance of humanity. Its not a saving grace at all but a business that exploits ignorance with more ignorance.
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| Jul 19 @ 8:56 AM |
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hammertime
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Is it any wonder why Christianity seeks to condemn and destroy all other religions? Christianity wants a monopoly on feeding into the fears, ignorance, superstitions and stupidity of humanity. Christianity is worse than cancer. Its a pus filled carbuncle that replaces with reality with delusion. Its a mental illness.
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| Jul 19 @ 8:58 AM |
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bevrice
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There you are wrong again, hammer. My minister never asks for money, she pays all the bills herself, she and her husband. If any monies come in and there are only about fifteen people in the church, most are ministers, it goes to missions and supporting an african man in africa in his ministry. Believe me, it is very little money.
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| Jul 19 @ 9:00 AM |
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sail_dancer
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Bev,
Now guys prove there is NO God. Now why would you ask someone to prove that there is no god? Seems to me that as a christian you should be able to prove that god does exist.
It is not for us to prove non-existence, It is you and your dogma's responsibility to substantiate your claims.
Christians have been using this tactic for years because they know that they cannot prove that their evil, egotistical and bigoted god exists. Since they themselves cannot prove this nonsense, they try to transfer the responsibility to others and ask them to disprove the myth that they allow to rule their lives.
Ignorance about something says nothing about its existence or non-existence. It is like the following two statements:
1. Scenario #2 is true
2. Scernaio #1 is false.
In attempting to prove that god exists, christians will defend their god from criticism by stating that “god is beyond comprehension” or “god's logic is beyond our understanding". If we truthfully analyze these statements we can see that they do not make sense.
If the above statements were true, and god is beyond our comprehension and understanding, then christians have placed themselves in a corner they cannot escaoe from. If man cannot understand god’s nature, then as men we certainly are not capable of determining god's existence.
Christians cannot have it both ways. Their dogma cannot be substantiated if they themselves also say that God is beyond the comprehension of man. What statement can a christian make about god, if they admit that god is beyond their comprehension?
Peace
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| Jul 19 @ 9:05 AM |
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bevrice
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But you see, God has proven Himself to us over and over and over. We know He is real. We have presented evidence of His existance and what He has done for us over and over. Now, it is up to you to prove He DOESN'T exist. It is like your trying to tell us that there is no wind because you can't see the wind, while we are feeling the wind in our face, blowing our hair.
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| Jul 19 @ 9:07 AM |
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uab_5
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If you pray in god's name, he answers them. says so in the Bible.
Yes, and often the answer is no or not now.
It doesn't matter who believes in God or not.
All that matters is that I believe in God.
If people wish to use me as an example of good, then I will explain my relationship with Him to them.
If not, oh well.
I pray each night that my actions will speak louder than my words.
I also pray that my actions are guided in a solid faith.
I'm not out to win converts. They'll come when they're ready.
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| Jul 19 @ 9:14 AM |
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sail_dancer
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Bev,
The word says, "so be it unto you according to your faith." I have heard of people regrowing limbs, hammer. There is a lady minister online who did just that. She has the doctor's statements, the x-rays, the whole documentation. And not one notable news agency picked up on this story? Seems that everything that christians want others to believe cannot be substantiated. Seems odd that notable historians of Jesus' time also missed picking up the story of the christian man/god.
Gray,
Actually it was written by those who's hand and thoughts were guided by the "Holy Spirit". If this is the case, why are there so many contradictions in the bible itself? You would think that god would produce an air tight document that people could not find contradictions in.
I've read them, thanks. So you think that scriptures outside the bible are funny? Who made the determination on which scriptures were true and which were false?
Peace
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| Jul 19 @ 9:17 AM |
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sail_dancer
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Bev,
The minister had never seen me before. He looked at me and said, "I don't like to do this, but, one of your legs is shorter than the other. He sat me down in a chair and everyone in the congregation saw it grow. Now it was broken down by my ankle, a ski boot fracture, which means it was shorter from the knee down. I can measure both of my legs from the knee down now and they are EXACTLY the same length. Bones don't grow after you reach thirty something, you know. And the local news didn't pick up this story? No one there mentioned this miracle to any notable news agency?
You are a lot of crock!
Peace
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| Jul 19 @ 9:18 AM |
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Thor1960303
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There's nothing objective or special about engineering. It took me eleven years to figure that out.
It's all SWAG.
Actually I think it's called chaos physics or plain old margin for error. Let me put it another way. (sigh) What methods work in erecting a building? Mathematically planning, then constructing and adjusting for error and such, or kneeling down and trying to telepathically talk to invisible people? As religious as the ancient Egyptians were, it sure as hell wasn't Horus, Ra or Osirus who built the pyramids, and the Jewish Yaweh dude wasn't even in the picture. I think he was too busy negotiating his movie rights with Cecil B DeMille at the time.
I get what you're saying, UAB, Murphy's Law, nothing goes according to plan,etc. I even understand about the PHD's who know how a light bulb works, but couldn't screw one in if their lives depended on it. Those are the types guys like you and me end up working for. But here's the difference: buildings are REAL, the laws of physics are REAL. Gods are imaginary beings dreamed up by primitive people to explain things they were ignorant of at the time.
Now guys prove there is NO God.
Prove there are no unicorns, mermaids or hobgoblins.
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| Jul 19 @ 9:40 AM |
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uab_5
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But somewhere along the line, faith comes about that the physics is 'close enough'.
I could write a lengthy disertation here and compare the quicks 'good enough' methods grunts on the line use to the time consuming 'gnats ass' methods that eggheads use.
I'm not gonna convince you, and you're not gonna change my mind. There's some baby back ribs and tea at Jim-n-Nicks I'd like to share with you over a discussion over football if you're ever in B'ham.
God bless.
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| Jul 19 @ 10:02 AM |
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bevrice
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Lol, sail since when does the newspaper pick up things like that? I wish it would, then I would read it.
You are right uab, we can't convert anyone, that is the work of the Holy Spirit. We can only plant seeds and hope that He makes them grow.
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| Jul 19 @ 10:37 AM |
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Thor1960303
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There's some baby back ribs and tea at Jim-n-Nicks I'd like to share with you over a discussion over football if you're ever in B'ham.
Thanks for the invite. I love baby back ribs,and if you're from the south, you know ice tea must be sweetened when it's still hot. Northern and midwestern folk don't get the concept, or they just don't like sweet ice tea. My Canadian wife doesn't like our sweet tea. They do understand sweet tea in California though, had no problem finding it in Hollywood.
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| Jul 19 @ 11:00 AM |
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uab_5
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The sweet tea is yours. 
I've have the unsweetened because I'm trying to drop 50 pounds...not like a rack of ribs will help 
If I may ask, what part of Canada is your wife from? I have a cousin who lives in Edmonton.
Canada is awesome! To bad it's too darn cold. 
Be blessed.
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| Jul 19 @ 11:26 AM |
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Thor1960303
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If I may ask, what part of Canada is your wife from?
Ottawa. My wife and I hope to retire in BC in several years.
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| Jul 19 @ 1:29 PM |
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uab_5
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Excuse the expression, but I hear BC is God's country.
I wish y'all the best of retirements. 
Personally, I hope to retire in Costa Rica as a missionary.
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| Jul 19 @ 2:27 PM |
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bevrice
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wow, uab, that would be awesome. I envy you.
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