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How are you raising your children?
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BandTMom
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That's why I keep posting 
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| Jul 20 @ 2:23 PM |
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bevrice
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Knots, that is a fair question, and what hope have you given your children?
I should have been dead numerous times, from the time when I was a baby and the leading specialists in Tx told my parents that I had leukemia. My parents didn't accept that.
[Edited on 7/20/2008 2:32 PM]
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| Jul 20 @ 2:26 PM |
How are you raising your children?
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BandTMom
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| Jul 20 @ 2:33 PM |
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16knots
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Knots, that is a fair question, and what hope have you give your children?
Rubbish!
I should have been dead numerous times, from the time when I was a baby and the leading specialists in Tx told my parents that I had leukemia. My parents didn't accept that.
You certainly had everything done to you  Did you say you worked as a psychiatrist or you were a patient of a psychiatrist 
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| Jul 20 @ 2:34 PM |
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LaughTillYaPuke
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Exposing a young child to every belief available is ludicrous,they are exposed to how we parents live as individuals and when they are old enough to choose there own road in life they can choose for themselves which is right
Really? It seems to be going quite well for about half of my emmediate family (those that have chosent to teach their childrent his way) And I must say, watching them in ages from 4-35 seems to have provent that you CAN raise your child to be accepting of any religious belief. And to raise them to think for themselves. They are open minded loving individuals, and in most cases define themselves by the choices they make and the actions they produce. They are solely accoutable for their won actions.
Okay, guys, question, where is your hope? Where is your power? If you say in yourself, you know you will fail yourself, everyone does.
If you get, heaven forbid, cancer, and the doctors can't do anything for you, where is your hope then?
I see this as raising someone in fear. What will you do if the WORST happens? There is only one person who will love you then!
Agian...YES....my power resides within myself and my actions. I have the power to hurt and to heal. I have the power for kindess or hatred.
And to be honest...that is one of the creepiest questions I have ever read. Sheesh. No, I don't believe for one minute in a power who giggles madly while flicking his cancerous fingers at the unawares.
Fear, fear, fear. I have raised my child to fear oncoming traffic, those that would pull her into a car to take her away, excessive use of drugs or alcohol. The things that would DO HER HARM. Why must some Christians preach FEAR to win people over? Is it all they have? Is there belief in this God so weak that that is the only weapon they have.
Yuck.
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| Jul 20 @ 2:37 PM |
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BandTMom
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Agian...YES....my power resides within myself and my actions. I have the power to hurt and to heal. I have the power for kindess or hatred.
Once again I bow to the words of the Puke.
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| Jul 20 @ 2:43 PM |
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bevrice
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Lol, who is talking about FEAR? I am talking about LIFE, I am talking about HOPE, and FAITH. I am talking about security in life and not being tossed around by fortune or misfortune. I am talking about LOVE.
What have you gained and what do your children gain in learning to accept misfortune, disease, hurt? You have no power over those, you know. You have made their lives like a ship that is tossed around by the waves with no firm anchor. Is this what you want them to remember you for? Is this what you want their lives to be?
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| Jul 20 @ 3:38 PM |
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LaughTillYaPuke
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Tell ya what Bev, why don't we just agree to disagree.
My child has a limitless future, one that is governed by how far she chooses to go and nothing else.
I will die. Hopefully before her. I would not wish that heartache on anyone. She will die as well. Hopefully not before she has known the love of a good man and smelled salt from all the different seas.
How and when I will die remains to be seen. It is a crap shoot. But in keeping with the original topic, I choose to teach my child that life is brief. The light of others flickers across our faces for only a short while and is gone. It is what she chooses to do with this life. That disease and misfortune ARE a part of this life. Whether it be ours or someone we love.
But in the end, it's even more than that. Good works and deads are meaningless if not done with joy and no small amount of abandon. That flowers are for smelling, people are for meeting, lovers are for kissing and the world is for exploring. In all of it's many wonders.
And that Bev is how she will remember me. A woman who lived with passion and few regrets. Who tasted all that life offered to her. Both the lucious and the distastful. And that it was all my own choice.
But perhaps that is the great difference. I have no fear of death. The heartache is in the living. It's watching others suffer. Their struggles and battles. And that we too will have our own battles, and while we must love each other, we travel our own sacred journey alone.
You can feel free to scoff at my beliefs. But mine are not founded in fear. Nor how people will percieve me once I am gone.
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| Jul 20 @ 5:03 PM |
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bevrice
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Wouldn't you like her to remember you as a woman of faith, one who overcame things with faith and had no fear in her? One that life had no control over. One that gave her the foundation to live her life in the same one. Someone when life was throwing its slings and arrows at her, and it will, for such is life, can fall to her knees and pray and know that God has taken care of it for her?
I always prayed for God to watch over my children when they were not with me, and I knew He did and still does. My middle child, a daughter, she was was seventeen at this time, had a friend over and they were going to a game room. I had told her she could go, but then got a word that she should stay home. I told her that she needed to stay home, she refused. I told her three different times, and told her that something not good was going to happen if she didn't stay at home. She went anyway. They ran across two boys that lived across the road from us that were going to bring them home. The boys headed out into nowhere and when the girls wouldn't have sex with them, they put them out of the car. Lol, the girl she was with had an aunt who "just happened" to live right down the road.
Call it circumstance, call it what you will, but things like this happened all the time with me and my kids when they were growing up. God was always in control, and even when they didn't listen, He still took care of them. You see, I had this to give to my kids as well. Security in the fact that He took care of them, lol, now He might let them learn a lesson, as He did for my daughter, but He still took care of them.
I could go on and on and on, but I won't.
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| Jul 20 @ 5:07 PM |
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BandTMom
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I prefer to be in control of my own life and teach my child that he and he alone is responsible for what happens in his.
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| Jul 20 @ 5:09 PM |
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alivenwell351
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I prefer to be in control of my own life and teach my child that he and he alone is responsible for what happens in his.
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| Jul 20 @ 5:15 PM |
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LaughTillYaPuke
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Wouldn't you like her to remember you as a woman of faith, one who overcame things with faith and had no fear in her? One that life had no control over. One that gave her the foundation to live her life in the same one.
READ MY POSTS BEV!!!! No! 
That is what YOU want me to believe and live. But it ain't never gonna happen girl.
Again....This is what I would want her to remember.... 
A woman who lived with passion and few regrets. Who tasted all that life offered to her. Both the lucious and the distastful. And that it was all my own choice.
It just pops your cork that you can't control people doesn't it? 
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| Jul 20 @ 5:17 PM |
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j_goose
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Cornelius Tacitus, a respected first-century Roman historian, wrote: “The name [Christian] is derived from Christ, whom the procurator Pontius Pilate had executed in the reign of Tiberius.”
Suetonius and Pliny the Younger, other Roman writers of the time, also referred to Christ.
In addition, Flavius Josephus, a first-century Jewish historian, wrote of James, whom he identified as “the brother of Jesus, who was called Christ.”
Check your dates, bev. First century authors, yes. But between 1 ad and 30 ad....nope.
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| Jul 20 @ 5:26 PM |
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alivenwell351
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It just pops your cork that you can't control people doesn't it?
For whatever reason, it just seems to pop believers' corks big time when they come across someone who is walking life's road just fine without the need of their crutch...
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| Jul 20 @ 5:30 PM |
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hammertime
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Wouldn't you like her to remember you as a woman of faith, one who overcame things with faith It should be obvious to a lot of us already Puke has far more going on for her than a blind faith based on fictional beliefs. Puke seeks knowledge and wants her daughter to be as smart as possible. Her daughter will grow up being proud of her mother who did all she could to raise her wisely. Her daughter will remember her as a women of wisdom. Who needs faith when you got experience?
[Edited on 7/20/2008 5:31 PM]
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| Jul 20 @ 5:31 PM |
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bevrice
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I loved the fact that even when my kids were doing wrong, I knew HE was taking care of them. I love it that my kids were and are safe. I love them, I don't want them to be at the mercy of fate or the results of their poor actions. When they were teens, they had plenty of those, as do most teens.
He didn't let them off scot free, He let them learn that they shouldn't do those things, but kept them from harm.
I lived my life to its fullest, too, puke, I loved everyone, gave my life to worthwhile, meaningful things. I took care of my grandparents to keep them out of the nursing home. I took in teens that had been thrown out by their parents. I took in homeless families. I sold my home and went to take care of my mom until she died. I didn't even date when my kids were growing up, I had three step dads and I could never have done that to them and didn't want men coming in and out of their lives. I went back to college and got my masters degree when I was fifty. I can look back on all of that with no regrets and my children admire me and love me and are thankful that I was always there for them. I made sure that when they came home from school, that I was there. It was a hard time for me, but I wouldn't take anything for those years now. We were never without anything we wanted or needed. My children and I still love each other very, very much. They all begged for me to come and live with them, but now it is my turn, and I wanted my own place.
I have been and am so very blessed. I own my home, my car, my motorhome. I don't owe on anything, it is all paid for. I have everything I want and need, and mostly, I have the love of my children and grandchildren who come up here and spend the night with me all the time, and they are all teenagers, not a time when kids normally want to stay with their nana's.
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| Jul 20 @ 5:35 PM |
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hammertime
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I loved the fact that even when my kids were doing wrong, I knew HE was taking care of them. 
Maybe you should have been taking care of them. I think you're not telling the whole truth. What you posted a while back is public information so you should come clean before you put your foot in your mouth again. The truth is your family is very dysfunctional and you can keep dreaming of an alternate reality and lie to everyone here about it.
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| Jul 20 @ 5:37 PM |
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j_goose
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I loved the fact that even when my kids were doing wrong, I knew HE was taking care of them. I love it that my kids were and are safe. I love them, I don't want them to be at the mercy of fate or the results of their poor actions. When they were teens, they had plenty of those, as do most teens.
Shouldn't YOU have been taking care of your kids?
I wouldn't let God take care of shit. He let his own son get MURDERED!
Let's not forget that.....
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| Jul 20 @ 5:39 PM |
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bevrice
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My family is not dysfunctional, please go read my last post, hammer.
I am a Christian, I am not going to lie about ANYTHING. I hate lies.
My oldest daughter DID just go through a bad time with a divorce, but I went to TN and spent a year with her. She has moved down here, paid mostly cash for a brand new home in an exclusive neighborhood, my grand daughter moved her with her, and my daughter will never have to work again because she has a very large income coming in. She is content.
See, life doesn't promise easy times, but God does promise to bring us through those victoriously.
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| Jul 20 @ 5:41 PM |
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bevrice
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Absolutely, goose, and I did take care of them, but you can't be with them all the time unless you home school them, and you have to give them some room to grow when they become teens, you know.
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