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bevrice

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You know I don't hold with your buddhist beliefs, knots. I know lots of good people that have really bad things happen to them. I have trouble thinking that little children with cancer have done anything to cause that, and I DON'T believe in reincarnation, what a cruel thing that would be.
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| Jul 20 @ 6:48 PM |
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LaughTillYaPuke

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What? You won't listen to Knots because "You don't hold to his beliefs"?
As for reincarnation being cruel...I would rather have another chance to get things right and grow, than your belief system that you burn and suffer for eternity.
Wow.
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| Jul 20 @ 6:50 PM |
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16knots

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Bevrice, I did not mention Buddhism at all. So get off your christian band wagon!
There is nothing in the cosmos that isnt without causation.
Children with cancer... why? Whats the cause of cancers? Whats the cause of children? Whats the cause of medical inability to have a cure at this time?
NO GOD!!!! NO GOD HAS EVER HELPED MAN DO A DARN THING!
Since mans existence he has developed through trial and error and continues to do so. No God has helped! No God will find the cure for cancer! Just man and his developing abilities through the natural causes of the cosmos.
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| Jul 20 @ 6:50 PM |
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BandTMom

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Mom, do you think that love and compassion can't go hand in hand with faith? What does faith have to do with love and compassion.
I can completely love without having "faith" that love will be return.
I can show compassion without having any "faith" in any type of deity.
Love come from within me, not from without.
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| Jul 20 @ 6:51 PM |
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BandTMom

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As for reincarnation being cruel...I would rather have another chance to get things right and grow, than your belief system that you burn and suffer for eternity.
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| Jul 20 @ 6:56 PM |
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bevrice

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But you see, I won't burn for eternity, that is the difference.
Where else would love come from if not from within?
At least we know, this is the only chance we have to get things right, and one is enough, I still think reincarnation is horrendously cruel.
We reap what we sow, but we reap it in THIS life.
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| Jul 20 @ 6:59 PM |
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BandTMom

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I think the concept of hell is more cruel.
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| Jul 20 @ 7:01 PM |
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LaughTillYaPuke

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Well, Bev's only going around once and that's what's important.
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| Jul 20 @ 7:02 PM |
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BandTMom

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Won't she be in for a surprise?
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| Jul 20 @ 7:03 PM |
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16knots

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Bevrice:
But you see, I won't burn for eternity, that is the difference. If we go by your accounts of your belief you will burn for eternity. You are a first class sinner.
Where else would love come from if not from within? Therefore, we only know love and compassion from within because we open up to our awareness of it.
At least we know, this is the only chance we have to get things right, and one is enough, I still think reincarnation is horrendously cruel. Your belief and not most others. Your view of reincarnation being cruel is because of your state of mind.
We reap what we sow, but we reap it in THIS life. Other words..... "causes and consequences." Even for your "eternal soul." You are not and never will be a spiritual being with your attitude. It is quite impossible. Only through recognising you are responsible for your existences with all its consequences and then you do something about heading into the direction of spiritual development will you succeed in truth of your being.
Thus far, you are an old record stuck in a groove with the same old clap trap.... contradictions, false hopes and promises, ignorant in mind and unaware of truths.
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| Jul 20 @ 7:06 PM |
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BandTMom

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And some really big stories too!
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| Jul 20 @ 7:08 PM |
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bevrice

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You don't understand knots. All Christians, all people sin. That is WHY Jesus came. We are not under the laws of sin and death, but under grace. As long as we are in the flesh, we will be in sin.
There is a difference between suffering the consequences of our actions and everything having a cause and effect. Like I said, small babies and children that are ill could have done nothing wrong.
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| Jul 20 @ 7:09 PM |
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hammertime

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When people make personal statements about themselves they should expect responses about those personal statements and expect criticism when its due. The fact is people lie and those that know will spot it. When they post something about themselves online, it gets record for everyone to see and judge for themselves.
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| Jul 20 @ 7:12 PM |
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bevrice

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And TRUE ones at that. You see, God DOES do awesome things, lol, Mom. You could have some of those in your life, too, IF you believed. See what you are depriving your children of? I would never lie, God doesn't need me to lie for Him, I think that could be classed as blasphemy, you know.
You guys can live all the lives you want. One is more than enough for me.
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| Jul 20 @ 7:14 PM |
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LaughTillYaPuke

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Like I said, small babies and children that are ill could have done nothing wrong. Oh no, no NO!!! That is not what christians believe!!!! Supposidly you are ALL born into sin. What is the difference to you if the child is ill or healthy? That because one is suffering it just gets a free ticket?
I would never lie So Bev, how many men have you met off the internet and slept with or gotten "physical with" while not being married to them?
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| Jul 20 @ 7:15 PM |
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BandTMom

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LOL, Bev.
You have no clue of the awesome things I have in my life.
My child is deprived of nothing but fear of something that may or may not exist.
My child is surround in love and has awesome things in his life too.
You know?
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| Jul 20 @ 7:16 PM |
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16knots

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Bevrice:
You don't understand knots. I understand perfectly well on this matter thank you.
All Christians, all people sin. No they dont! Only those who wish to believe such nonsenses. And, I called you a "First Class Sinner!"
That is WHY Jesus came. We are not under the laws of sin and death, but under grace. As long as we are in the flesh, we will be in sin. Only you and those who wish to believe in such nonsenses!
There is a difference between suffering the consequences of our actions and everything having a cause and effect. I dont think you understand much on this subject. EVERYTHING DOES HAVE CAUSES AND CONSEQUENCES. Which can result in suffering the consequences of our actions or not. Nothing has to be sufferance's. Results of our actions can be great joy, love, compassion, equanimity, wisdom.
Like I said, small babies and children that are ill could have done nothing wrong. That's not what you said so please sin no more here on the subject at hand.
Who said they did anything wrong in this area of their live? Doesnt detract from the fact they are ill due to causes and consequences. How many times were you the cause for your childrens childhood sicknesses? Oh dont tell me they had none!
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| Jul 20 @ 7:17 PM |
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LaughTillYaPuke

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I would never lie So Bev, how many men have you met off the internet and slept with or gotten "physical with" while not being married to them?
Whoops! Double post.
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| Jul 20 @ 7:18 PM |
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BandTMom

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I would never lie So Bev, how many men have you met off the internet and slept with or gotten "physical with" while not being married to them?
Whoops....somehow Puke posted under my name
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| Jul 20 @ 7:19 PM |
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16knots

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Bevrice:
And TRUE ones at that. You see, God DOES do awesome things, lol, Mom. No such God! If your God exists then he is an evil God for already mentioned reasons.
You could have some of those in your life, too, IF you believed. One doesnt need to believe by blind faith but seek the absolute truth of what IS true and not some ancient man made dogma.
See what you are depriving your children of? I would never lie, God doesn't need me to lie for Him, I think that could be classed as blasphemy, you know. Who are YOU to say someone is depriving their children when you feed yours with religious clap trap. Oh.... think you already lied a few times here today already. Yes, you are blasphemous and deny the Bible.
You guys can live all the lives you want. One is more than enough for me. There is no choices in the matter.
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