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j_goose
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My mouth is watering just thinking about it.....
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| Jul 20 @ 9:47 PM |
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uab_5
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Shouldn't the question read:
How are you rearing your children?
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| Jul 20 @ 9:48 PM |
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j_goose
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Or
how is Goose gong to "rear" Puke?
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| Jul 20 @ 9:48 PM |
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LaughTillYaPuke
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I'm letting it go people. I'm letting it go.... 
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| Jul 20 @ 9:56 PM |
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uab_5
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The back door does mitigate pregenancy! 
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| Jul 20 @ 10:01 PM |
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hammertime
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Now we know who the pain in the ass is going to be.
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| Jul 20 @ 10:25 PM |
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j_goose
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Classic...
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| Jul 21 @ 10:32 PM |
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Jankia
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goose- Isn't that brainwashing? The path YOU were raised in or taught to follow? I'm not understanding this remark.
brainwashing
Indoctrination that forces people to abandon their beliefs in favor of another set of beliefs. I was not forced into Christianity any more then I forced my children.Did my perents tell me that if I didnt go to church with them there would be consequences?
Nope,and I didnt force my kids to attend Sunday school either.Like I did myself when a kid...they enjoyed it.
me...6 pages ago...Funny why saildancer found the need to critisize a Christain again for his answer to these questions,yet he doesnt stay on-topic and answer them himself. Thought I would quote myself to give him a chance to actually be on topic before he resorts to his usual banter after I say anything. 
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| Jul 21 @ 10:49 PM |
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j_goose
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I was not forced into Christianity any more then I forced my children.Did my perents tell me that if I didnt go to church with them there would be consequences?
Nope,and I didnt force my kids to attend Sunday school either.Like I did myself when a kid...they enjoyed it.
BUT, did you make ALL other religions available? Did your parents do the same?
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| Jul 21 @ 11:21 PM |
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Jankia
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How many different religions do you think were available and if they were would my parents or myself have forbidden me or my children from looking into them?
Nope
I wasnt forced nor did I force my children to be Christains or of a particular political party etc.That would be brainwashing... plain and simple.
Like i said earlier...Teaching my children what I believe is the truth is how I raised them.Thats what a parent does.Forcing that truth is brainwashing.
Teaching isnt brainwashing.
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| Jul 22 @ 6:11 AM |
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bevrice
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Amen, jankia. Sad, that more of that isn't done today. We, or our kids didn't have the school shootings, all the child molestors. We didn't have to worry if our kids went out in the front yard to play or walked to the corner store. People had manners and were not crude like so many are now, they had values. Did you vote for a man because he was a Christian, lol, they were ALL Christians? As teens, we had dances at least once a week at school or the Catholic church with live bands, had hang out places where all the teens went to congregate and drink cokes and eat hamburgers and talk. The schools had teen clubs where kids could go and play pool, or the jukebox or dance or just sit and talk. Do they have those now? NO, because kids are not brought up to be Christians or to have manners or even to know right from wrong. There is no discipline in the schools, the teachers have no authority anymore over the kids, such a disgrace for our peoples who were once a decent, moral, people with integrity. One out of every hundred people is now in prison. I never even heard a curse word until I was in Jr. High, only trashy people cursed or swore. I never knew racial predjudice. One of my favorite people when I was growing up was a old black man with only one arm who came and had coffee and breakfast at my grandmother's home. He called me his little white angel, lol. I loved that old man, he was everyone's friend. My grandmother when she was a girl got a new doll for Christmas every year. She hung it on the wall in her room for a year and got to take it down to play with the next year. The one she had been playing with was taken and given to a little girl who didn't have a doll.
People knew their neighbors and they got along. All of this had to do with Christianity and a Christian upbringing. Do you think they could have hang out places for teens now, or have dances for them all the time? No, they have to worry about them drinking or doing drugs or having sex out in the cars. We knew what a spanking was, I am not talking about a beating, there is a vast difference, and believe me, spankings worked, and the spanked kids didn't grow up to be violent, there is not a violent bone in my body, have never even been in a fist fight. We just knew that there were consequences for our actions and that they were just a little painful.
People do you realize that we haven't won a single major war since morals and Christianity have decreased in our country? Do you think it could have something to do with God's favor?
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| Jul 22 @ 6:45 AM |
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Heaveninawildflower
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Maybe it was putting 'Under God' into the Pledge of Allegiance. We never lost a war until we changed our motto from 'E Pluribus Unum' to 'In God we Trust.'
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| Jul 22 @ 6:57 AM |
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SyndilLucian
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Raising (or rearing) your children to believe as you do is not brainwashing. Period.
When you don't allow your children to explore other religions because it does not agree with your beliefs, that is censorship.
When I was young, I lived in a community that was a blend of many religions, and we all felt safe. It had less to do with our beliefs as it did with one person's regard for another, and a sense of personal responsibility for ourselves.
We went the 'wrong' direction when we became a 'Me' generation. It is all about me, what I want, what I need, and who I have to walk all over to get it
In my personal opinion, this country, heck this entire planet needs to a lot less 'Me' and a lot more 'us'. If/when this ever happens; when we start having as much regard for the opinions and feelings of others as we do for ourselves, then a change might happen.. but folks, don't hold your breath.. blue is not a pretty color for a person's face.
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| Jul 22 @ 6:57 AM |
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bevrice
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Do you think maybe it began when we took prayer out of the schools, heaven?
Don't you remember those days, heaven? We had a ball when we were growing up. I just wish kids today could have as much fun as we did, good clean fun.
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| Jul 22 @ 7:01 AM |
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bevrice
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But you see, the main focus of Christianity is not about "ME" but "YOU".
When I grew up, most EVERYONE was a Christian.
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| Jul 22 @ 7:02 AM |
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SyndilLucian
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My problem with organized religion (I don't care whose, they are all the same in my book) is that if you do not believe as I do, you are condemned out of hand.
I have a real problem with that. I have yet to find a belief system that I can whole-heartedly embrace, and I can not stand the thought that people are out there, all full of themselves with their faith telling me I am doomed because I don't believe as they do.
If there is a supreme being, I really need to believe that He (She) is not so narrow in love to condemn someone for not believing. That is just me though. 
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| Jul 22 @ 7:06 AM |
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SyndilLucian
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Sorry for the double post, should have waited for response to the last one before I posted the above.
So all Christians believe that theirs is the only 'correct' religion?
And that is why I left my parent's church, and have been abandoned by 'Him' ever since. Nothing would convince me that Christianity is the only 'right' religion. That seems very elitest to me.. believe as I do or you are doomed.
No thanks, and with that I will get my Agnostic soul out of religion, as I don't really belong here.
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| Jul 22 @ 7:15 AM |
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bevrice
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The Bible tells Christians that the only way into the kingdom is through Jesus.
There are a lot of Christian denominations to choose from, and some of those think they are the only one.
Is it so hard to put faith in someone who came to set you free, to reconcile you with God, to take your sins on Himself? Who only came out of love for you, who loved you enough to die for you, and if you had been the only person in the world, He would have died for you.
Jesus was God in the flesh.
Don't you sometimes have this empty place inside you that nothing can fill? All men have this 'God place' inside, a void that only God can fill, that is inate with mankind.
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| Jul 22 @ 7:39 AM |
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sail_dancer
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In my personal opinion, this country, heck this entire planet needs to a lot less 'Me' and a lot more 'us'. If/when this ever happens; when we start having as much regard for the opinions and feelings of others as we do for ourselves, then a change might happen.. but folks, don't hold your breath.. blue is not a pretty color for a person's face. The only way this will happen is if religion (especially christianity and islam) change their dogma to accept and respect peoples of other faiths. Christianity and islam both teach that people of other faiths worship false gods and will go to hell.
This polarizes people into opposing groups that are constantly at odds with each other. The main reason for this is the OT which is the basis of all Abrahamic religions. God instructs his follower's to kill, rape and carry out genocide to eliminate anyone that does not worship him. He rewards his followers for doing these atrocities.
These religions indoctrinate there followers and build a delusional world for them to live in. Anyone rejecting this delusional world is considered the enemy. Members of these religions believe that god appears and speakes to them and they will do anything that god tells them. How many murders, wars and acts of genocide have been justified because they were done in god's name?
Governments tend to adopt a particular religion and will conform to its beliefs and practices. This causes religious conflicts with anyone of different religious origins. Internal to the government it causes bigotry and in some cases attempts at genocide. Between governments it can lead to wars. Just look at the middle east.
So if anyone truthfully wishes for "all" people to live together in peace and harmony, religions have to take the first step and start preaching that everyone has the right to their beliefs and that their beliefs should be respected. Stating that "all non-believers will go to hell" is not showing respect.
Wake up people!
Peace
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| Jul 22 @ 7:39 AM |
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Heaveninawildflower
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Don't you remember those days, heaven? We had a ball when we were growing up. I just wish kids today could have as much fun as we did, good clean fun.
Bev, those were the best of times, and the worst of times...yes, life seemed innocent but it was just hidden better, as it was even more so in Victorian times. If you looked under the surface, it was there but nobody was allowed to talk about it. My brother was molested by a priest, and we kids all knew all about him but nobody wanted to hear about it - matter of fact, when he was killed in a boating 'accident', they named the community center after him. Today, it would have been all over the news instead of hidden. Frankly I prefer the modern approach - root it out instead of letting the dark secrets continue. Since I was raised in John Gotti's neighborhood, I've always suspected there was some not so divine intervention in that man's death.
The other thing that I think about is the fact that the most devious, underhanded, sly and dishonest people I've met in my life have been the ones who talked most about God. I've gotten to the point where I'm immediately suspicious when people talk about how 'good' they are, as I've found that those who really are good (or godly, which is where the word derives from) don't need to tell people they are.
It's pretty much a moot point for me as my sons are in their forties now, and for better or for worse, I really like those men. They're not religious but they're always the first to help their neighbors. I don't think I did too bad a job.
All men have this 'God place' inside, a void that only God can fill, that is inate with mankind.
Didn't they find that 'God gene'? Not everyone has that need, and certainly not everyone finds that need fulfilled by Christianity. I know that like Syndi, I didn't. I've found more joy in being a deist, one who believes in a creator, or maybe even a pantheist, one who believes that creator is all that there is, than I ever felt when reading the bible. Of course I know that I'm unique, just like everybody else. I believe that a creator who invented all this diversity is not limited to loving only those who see him/her/it as the God of Abraham. He obviously has a sense of humor, look at the platypus!
[Edited on 7/22/2008 7:47 AM]
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