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hammertime
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Hammer, but I gave you scripture to support women in the church and women serving God as they are called. And the donkey said that to you? Scripture is not very useful since it supports slavery and never condemns it. You can pick and choose what verses support your dogma. The bible has no consistency or morality.
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bevrice
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Sail, if you will look back, I said the article was too strong, but basically it posted the truth. I will not cut out parts of an article that I do not agree with, I don't think we should do that.
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| Jul 24 @ 8:08 AM |
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bevrice
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It does not support slavery, it acknowledges that it was a fact of life at that time, hammer.
As to condemning it, I think the scripture that says to do unto others as you would have them do unto you covers that one.
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| Jul 24 @ 8:15 AM |
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hammertime
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Jesus supports slavery. Never says its bad.
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| Jul 24 @ 8:19 AM |
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bevrice
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He said to do unto others as you would have them do unto you. I think that more than covers it.
He never condemned the Romans' occupation either. He came to set your spirit free regardless of your physical circumstances. You see, that was one of the complaints of the Jews who did not receive Him as the messiah. They thought He would come to be a king who would do away with all their enemies.
[Edited on 7/24/2008 8:21 AM]
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| Jul 24 @ 8:21 AM |
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hammertime
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Jesus condones slavery. He never says its wrong. He praises slave owners too.
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| Jul 24 @ 8:21 AM |
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sail_dancer
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Bev,
Sail, if you will look back, I said the article was too strong, but basically it posted the truth. I will not cut out parts of an article that I do not agree with, I don't think we should do that. Then you should highlight the things you agree with and comment on the things you do not agree with and why.
You are trying to make up excuses. You do not research things before you post them and most of your posts are in conflict with your beliefs. You are so wrapped up in and blinded by your dogma, you cannot read anything about religion without reading your dogmatic beliefs into them.
You just keep driving more nails into the lid of the dogma box you are imprisoned in making it harder and harder for you to escape christian dogma's hold on you.
Peace
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| Jul 24 @ 8:22 AM |
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hammertime
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But isn't your dogma a slavery? Its a mental slavery making you unable to live a good life and to use critical thinking.
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| Jul 24 @ 8:24 AM |
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bevrice
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Lol, you know I don't highlight. I presented the article in its entirety, no one ever agrees with anyone else totally, you know. What difference would it have made if I had highlighted it, you would have picked the other part out, anyway, now wouldn't you?
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hammertime
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Looks like Jesus liked slavery a whole lot Colossians 3:22 Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God
What a fake messiah to condone slavery. What kind of son of god was this? Of course, its all fable anyway so someone wrote it so the slave trade continued.
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| Jul 24 @ 8:29 AM |
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bevrice
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But, hammer, you see, I am blessed, I have a wonderful life, I am totally content. I am not bound by anything or anyone. I have total happiness, a wonderful family, kids who love me and are good people. Grandkids who love me and strive to be the best they can, and I love all of the dearly. No debts, everything I have is paid for, I owe no one. I have good friends, a wonderful church to go to. All this is because of the power of God in my life and His love.
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| Jul 24 @ 8:31 AM |
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hammertime
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Well you're not very blessed with all your physical and mental ills, dysfunctional family, etc...
And Jesus supports slavery.
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| Jul 24 @ 8:32 AM |
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bevrice
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Hammer, I think that would be good advice to anyone who was in slavery. It would be the way to freedom and favor with one's master. You see, the word says we are to return good for evil, and then God takes care of it for us.
Hammer, you simply don't understand the Bible.
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| Jul 24 @ 8:34 AM |
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hammertime
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Jesus says to obey your slave masters in all things... This is a Jesus anyone can do without.
That means if your master says run naked through town you will. That means if your master says jump off a cliff you will.
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| Jul 24 @ 8:35 AM |
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bevrice
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Lol, hammer, I don't even have high blood pressure, I am so healthy it is not even funny, and so mentally stable that I don't have to question your unbelief or make fun of you. I don't have to resort to lies, innuendos or insults, that is a sign of being mentally unbalanced and out of control, you know.
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| Jul 24 @ 8:37 AM |
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hammertime
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Jesus says Colossians 3:22 Servants ,obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God
So you must do all things and fear God. Thats pretty sick? Why does a slave need to fear God? Isn't God going to help him? Guess not. Jesus isn't.
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| Jul 24 @ 8:38 AM |
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hammertime
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and so mentally stable that I don't have to question your unbelief or make fun of you. I 
God provides you cigarettes? Cars passing side by side over small bridges? Hearing voices and feeling hands pushing????
Delusions and psychosis are mental illnesses..... People who hallucinate are not mentally stable.
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bevrice
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Sadly for you, you have never experienced the wonder of God. You know that is pitiful. I am sorry for you, but you make your own choices.
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| Jul 24 @ 8:44 AM |
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bevrice
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Sorry, double post, might should have left it, maybe that needs to be said more than once.
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| Jul 24 @ 8:47 AM |
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sail_dancer
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Bev,
Lol, you know I don't highlight. I presented the article in its entirety, no one ever agrees with anyone else totally, you know. What difference would it have made if I had highlighted it, you would have picked the other part out, anyway, now wouldn't you? You are dense.
I posted:Then you should highlight the things you agree with and comment on the things you do not agree with and why. If you followed what I suggested, there would be nothing to question since you cover all the bases.
Learn how to use C&Ps, underlines and bold to highlight your points and comment on anything that you may not totally agree with. Like I said, you are more interested in the time it takes you to post than the contents of the post and its meaning.
People that read your post that we are discussing, learned what? They learned that there is no requirement for accepting Jesus as savior, being reborn in the holy spirit, or being bathed in the blood of the lamb. They learned that salvation is based on works. They also learned that "eternal security" (once saved, always saved) is a false teaching.
Was that what you wanted the readers of your post to get out of it?
No one can take anything you post as being your opinion.
Peace
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