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bevrice
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He should get that from the Holy Spirit and from the Word, not from his beliefs, that would make him just like you, heaven forbid, hammer.
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| Jul 22 @ 11:42 AM |
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hammertime
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He should get his inspiration where his heart is. His heart is in a good place. You are a psychopath and your dysfunctional family is proof. Your mental illness was never treated. You don't have any advice to give because you're not a mentally fit person.
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| Jul 22 @ 11:43 AM |
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bevrice
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Does anyone know what happened to soc, to seal?
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| Jul 22 @ 11:45 AM |
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bevrice
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And, see, hammer, that is JUST what he does, that makes him full of himself and not the Lord. You gave the WRONG answer. As to your other stuff, you rant and rave all the time, hammer, I just ignore your stuff as a rule.
You know, seal is a minister, as well, prob why you hate him. SOC is genuinely a good man, a good Christian. I do miss them both.
[Edited on 7/22/2008 11:48 AM]
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| Jul 22 @ 11:46 AM |
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uab_5
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You don't have any advice to give because you're not a mentally fit person. 
Bev, for the record...
My pastor and I have grown extremely close, like Jonathan and David, after meeting when he buried my mother.
He baptized me, instucted me in the faith, and has watched me grown into a good disciple of the Lord.
Yes I curse, yes I rant, es I have a tatto, yes I am a sinner.
Point to one person and tell me they are flawless!
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| Jul 22 @ 11:52 AM |
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bevrice
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No one is without sin, flawless, uab. Does your minister say to go ahead and rant and rave, go ahead and curse all you want, go get some more tattoos? We are not perfect, but we are supposed to work at doing the best we can, you know. Are you going to get mad at him if he tells you, "Man, you need to watch your mouth."? What if he says, "What in the world were you thinking of getting another tattoo?" Are you going to get mad at him for correcting you, or maybe he just doesn't bother to correct you. It is much easier not to, you know, but then the word says that if we don't, if we condone what you are doing and it is sinful, then we are as guilty of that sin as YOU are.
I have enough sins of my own, I don't need yours, too. I do work on mine, trying to correct them, but I fail, as all of us do, that means I have to get up and try all over again and again and again, but sure not going to wallow all around in them willingly, and then defend them.
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| Jul 22 @ 11:58 AM |
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uab_5
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Does your pastor get mad at you for assuming the authority of God?
BTW I got one tat well before I was saved. I considered it a battle scar.
I watch my mouth at church, and rarely do I rant.
I don't need to explain my self any further to you.
You need to learn the meaning of humility, quickly.
You hump like a rabbit out of lust, but do you ask forgiveness and attempt not to sin again or do you go forth and continue to sin without reprocussions?
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| Jul 22 @ 11:58 AM |
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LanceVarden7
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You come across as the typ of person that turned me off to Christianity in high school.
Uab, you sound just like me a month or two ago. That is EXACTLY how I felt (and still feel)
These sort of "Christians" are not furthering the religion, but doing it great harm.
UAB, I am called to minister the word. Now, you say your minister and you are good friends. Do you think he would support lukewarm half truths? If so, then I sure would change ministers. Does he pat you on the back and curse right along with you when you curse. Does he say, "Good job" when you rant and rave and rampage against others? If he corrects you, I guess you get mad and try to jump in the middle of him???? You are NOT the minister of anyone here. You have no invitation, nor any right, ethically or scripturally to correct anyone.
Lance, I am willing to nuture, support you, and help you grow, but you have to exhibit Christian actions, not despise correction. People like you have nothing to offer.
As to the authority thing, the elders in the church DO have authority, you know. You are a not an elder. You are just a sad person who wants to feel better about herself by denouncing others. That is bad enough, but to use Christianity as a tool to do it, is a blashphemy. Shame on you, bev.
You don't have any advice to give because you're not a mentally fit person. Right on!!!
bev, you need to take a step back and look at yourself, and stop bring shame to yourself and the religion.
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| Jul 22 @ 12:04 PM |
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hammertime
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Does anyone know what happened to soc, to seal? I think they were raptured away.. Weeeee..........
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| Jul 22 @ 12:06 PM |
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hammertime
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No one is without sin, flawless, uab. Promoting mental illness is a sin. You're a sinner.
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| Jul 22 @ 12:07 PM |
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hammertime
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You hump like a rabbit out of lust, but do you ask forgiveness and attempt not to sin again or do you go forth and continue to sin without reprocussions? Is that on Youtube? 
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| Jul 22 @ 12:07 PM |
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LanceVarden7
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I have enough sins of my own Like smoking & frequenting Adult Matchdoctor?
Are you sinning when you suck on your cigarettes?
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| Jul 22 @ 12:13 PM |
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LanceVarden7
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bev, what a lot of lies and BS
Are you going to get mad at him for correcting you, or maybe he just doesn't bother to correct you. It is much easier not to, you know
The easiest thing to do is to try to correct someone else. The people most desperate to do it are generally the ones that don't have a clue what they are talking about. All it is, is an ego fluff. It is way of saying "I know more than you" -or- in the case of religion to say "I am more holy than you"
if we condone what you are doing and it is sinful, then we are as guilty of that sin as YOU are Bull-oney!! That is REALLY of weak justification of your outlandish behavoir. You have no right nor invitation to correct. Even if you had some sort of mandate, you are too sad and lost to correct anyone.
Great shame is upon you, bev.
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| Jul 22 @ 12:14 PM |
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bevrice
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I am a minister of the Lord, I serve Him. If that bothers you and you don't like it, or you are not a part of His church, that is fine, continue on in your ranting and raving. You know the church is not a building, but is the Lord's children.
Lance, you are just so full of yourself. So full of hate, vengeance and revenge, you are full of pride, you can't be corrected, shown the right way. Did you ever stop to think when seal or jankia or Hunt or Soc corrected you that you just MIGHT be doing wrong? One day you will see them for what they are, they are all real Christians, and are all anchored and versed in the word, in the truth, live what they teach.
UAB, where do you see Jesus or any of the disciples endorsing and supporting what is wrong. Jesus told the adultress to go and sin no more, not to go on doing what she was doing. Do you think Jesus was wishy washy about God and the word and the word going forth?
Matthew 10:
5. These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
6. But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
7. And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.
8. Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.
9. Provide neither gold, nor silver, nor brass in your purses,
10. Nor scrip for your journey, neither two coats, neither shoes, nor yet staves: for the workman is worthy of his meat.
11. And into whatsoever city or town ye shall enter, inquire who in it is worthy; and there abide till ye go thence.
12. And when ye come into an house, salute it.
13. And if the house be worthy, let your peace come upon it: but if it be not worthy, let your peace return to you.
14. And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
15. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment, than for that city.
(See also Luke 10:1-16)
Now, I have simply presented to you truth and truths of the word, if you don't receive those, then you are responsible, not me. Your blood is no longer on my hands, and like Jesus said, I am wiping my feet, like I have done so often before and moving on.
Lance, know that you should KNOW the word, ALL of it before you teach half truths. That is called being a false teacher, and there are some strong words about that in the Bible. Also know that you cannot minister nor teach unless you receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit, the disciples had to receive it, Apollos, even though he was minstering was sent to learn of that baptism and receive it. Unless you know the truth, you cannot minister the truth.
I am sure that is why seal and soc no longer come in here, they have wiped the dust from their feet, too, that is more than just a little scarey, you know.
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| Jul 22 @ 12:18 PM |
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bevrice
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Now, lance, uab, I will leave these forums, I will not be the cause for your sinning any longer, you don't seem to need my help to do that, continue on. You both seem to have little regard for the anointing. Hunt is anointed, seal is anointed, I was anointed. Haven't you noticed how when one strong Christian leaves the forums, another is sent in here, and amazingly none of us is in contact with the other, was simply the Lord's work, like it or not.
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| Jul 22 @ 12:20 PM |
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bevrice
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Lance go learn the word, go study to show yourself approved. You just called the word a liar on not one but TWO counts.
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| Jul 22 @ 12:36 PM |
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LanceVarden7
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I am a minister of the Lord, I serve Him. You are not the minister of anyone here
Do you think Jesus was wishy washy about God and the word and the word going forth? You are not him. No one is seeking your guidance
you don't seem to need my help No, we don't. I don't think anyone here does.
That is called being a false teacher, and there are some strong words about that in the Bible. I am not a teacher at all. I just express my beliefs. I do not have, seek, or desire any authority over anyone else. That is where you and I differ.
Hunt is anointed, seal is anointed, I was anointed. You surely presume to be passing out alot of annointings.
You just called the word a liar on not one but TWO counts. You are not the word. I have seen you lie many times
I will leave these forums Don't let the door hit you in the behind on your way out. The discussion is more productive without you. Your judgements and condescendings are a distraction.
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| Jul 22 @ 1:57 PM |
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yashaenka
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God has no authority unless you let an unprovable myth rule you!
One cannot assume any authority on something that is not provable or real. A IT that resides outside of all there is and is not; just exactly where is that?
Monotheist researchers readily admit the word of God has crumbled into antiquity and is no more so the words you read are not but mans words even if from the Bibles, Torah or other tombs.
And just which God does one try to assume the authority of?  
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| Jul 22 @ 2:00 PM |
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sail_dancer
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Lance,
I have got to disagree with you a bit. The only two I, personally, have had real trouble with the "holier than thou" is bev & hunt.
In any event, I don't think these bad examples are the mainstream Christianity. They are noticeable because they are loud and out front, drawing attention to themselves. Let's face the facts. Your belief that you are either saved or go to a second death, is not what majority of christians believe. So the dogma that Bev and Hunt spew is believed by most christians. These christians may not be as outspoken as Bev and Hunt but they have the same sick belief that anyone that believes differently will go to hell because they worship false gods or demons.
I think that Christians have an obligation to stand up and say, "No, this is NOT what it is all about. These people are glorifying themselves and not God" I do not think that the mjority of Christians twist and abuse religion as bev & hunt do, however, far too many sit queitly by and do nothing while those types mistreat people. The majority of christians believe in eternal damnation and most of what Bev and Hunt spew. If they didn't then they would speak up. You and Angel both believe in the second death and both of you have spoken up. The problem is that your form of christianity is in a small minority. Just search the web and compile a list of denominations that believe in "second death". You will be lucky to find one. Where as if you look for denominations that accept "eternal damnation" you will get many.
As I said Bev and Hunt may be outspoken but they do have mainstream christian beliefs. Ask christians if their faith is the only true faith. Ask them if other religions worship false gods. Ask them if non-christians will be saved. Ask them about everything that Bev and Hunt have said and you will find that the majority feel that way. They may not condone the way Bev and Hunt choose to spread this sick dogma, but the dogma itself they accept as the only truth.
Peace
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| Jul 22 @ 2:18 PM |
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yashaenka
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Sail, All monotheistic Christians use the same sources for their radical belief system, the Bibles.
It is written, so it is and fire, brimstone, eternal damnation and hell permeates the bibles. Bibles that have contradictions within them written by men not a God that stands outside of all that there is!
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