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Jul 23 @ 1:03 PM Assuming the authority of God    
bevrice


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The hardest thing I ever had to do was to learn to quit depending in ME to do things and to let go and let God. He does them so much better than I do, anyway. I was always a very self sufficient person who believed much as you do, Thor, that I could reason my way out of things with logic and common sense.
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Jul 23 @ 1:06 PM Assuming the authority of God    
yashaenka


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Religion remains undefined as a term in reality although there are several variations that attempt to define it.

Whether Buddhism, Taoism (philosophical), pantheism and other such living belief systems are religions one must ask who is doing the defining. The term religion is really for scholars beyond that it has no meaning.

If as a person who is as much eastern as western my take on the term as used in the west is monotheism and polytheism with God or Gods that one must revere to have an afterlife qualify as religions.

Institutions and organized belief system with no god(s) that stress the here and now without a personal God are not religions as we think of religions here in the west.

Albeit each of you are the final arbitrator for yourself so you can assume even the craziest of things....

Islam considers Christianity to be polytheistic because of the triad it forms
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Jul 23 @ 1:10 PM Assuming the authority of God    
uab_5


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The hardest thing I ever had to do was to learn to quit depending in ME to do things and to let go and let God. He does them so much better than I do, anyway.
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Jul 23 @ 1:12 PM Assuming the authority of God    
sail_dancer


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Bev,

By the way, it is spelt "megalomaniac".

Peace
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Jul 23 @ 1:19 PM Assuming the authority of God    
bevrice


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Thank you, sail, for the correction, I will try to remember that.
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Jul 23 @ 1:46 PM Assuming the authority of God    
LanceVarden7


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Now, lance, uab, I will leave these forums, I will not be the cause for your sinning any longer, you don't seem to need my help to do that, continue on.
Well, that didn't last very long. Another in a long string of untruths.

I ask again, as an honest man, do you not see the legitmacy in some of the complaints about the behavoir bev has displayed here?
SOC, still waiting for your answer

bev, the mere fact that he is so reluctant to answer ought to tell you something.
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Jul 23 @ 1:57 PM Assuming the authority of God    
hammertime


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Okay, hammer, I should report you for that one. There is NO prescription drug abuse in my family. We don't take meds when we should. I do NOT take amphetamines that the docotors would give me for narcolepsy. There are NO alcoholics in my family, no one even drinks. I have been drunk once in my life and that was as a teen. I was not coming in here but your lies and accusations must be addressed. Who is hypersexual? I have had sex with two men in twenty five years, come on. You are simply a liar and should not address things you know nothing of. Shame on you. If you want to address anything, address it truthfully, that was libel and slander, you know.

Okay, the smoking thing, sure it is not good for me, but am I supposed to take amphetamines, tons of them that the doctors would give me? Am I supposed to sleep my life away, confined to my home, not able to drive, not able to even attend church? For me the tobacco is a medicine.


Here is a personal one. My son, when he was eighteen began to run around with the neighbor boys and drink way too much, was drunk most of the time. I talked ot him. I explained that seeing as how my dad was an alcoholic and his dad was an alcoholic, that for him to drink was like holding a loaded gun to his head. He didn't listen to me like most kids don't and I tried over and over. You know the line, leave me alone, it is my life, let me find out on my own.

Who's lying? No dysfunction? No alcoholics? Lets not mention the near tragedy. Hyper-sexual? LOL!!! Tons of posts on sex forums, membership in AMD, and Adult Friendfinder. Not saying anything wrong with being sexual just don't be a hypocrite about it. Be proud of who you are. You only bring shame. Hypersexual behavior doesn't always mean actual physical sex, you can have online sex. It still feeds into the fantasy as an addiction.

If you can't be honest, don't try to act innocent and then force the issue upon yourself...Don't talk about your personal life in a public place because then it becomes fair game. This is something you do...

So before, what you were complaining about. My post in response to Lance's statement was to question why people like you become religious fanatics and take on bizarre beliefs in fantasies and unrealities.

Like I was questioning, I will repeat:

There are a lot of things we need to know. We know a lot already but as you can see this particular person seeks no help but dwells deeply in delusion that nothing is wrong. She and Hunt openly condemn other people and other faiths and their obvious groupies are the same and just as delusional. Some have heard voices in their heads. They are not mentally well so we can expect these sorts of abnormal behaviors from them. They are not on a spritual path but one of self-destruction.


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Jul 23 @ 2:17 PM Assuming the authority of God    
Thor1960303


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Hyper-sexual? LOL!!! Tons of posts on sex forums, membership in AMD, and Adult Friendfinder. Not saying anything wrong with being sexual just don't be a hypocrite about it. Be proud of who you are. You only bring shame. Hypersexual behavior doesn't always mean actual physical sex, you can have online sex. It still feeds into the fantasy as an addiction.

Hammer,
I've noticed that in my years growing up with Fundamentalist Christianity that hypersexual behavior is closely associated with religious indoctrination. I have no stats to quote, nothing empirical, but if my life experience is any indication, Bev is typical of this psychographic in society.

Mind you I'm not complaining. I had lots of fun growing up as a teenager when I learned that religious girls can be every bit as horny as their non believing counterparts. Sometimes even more so! They would be on their knees at the altar on Sunday, when Saturday night, they were on their knees doing something else entirely!

On the downside, I sat in these churches and Sunday School classes, knowing these girls and the guys they were with, and usually they would wind up pregnant, whereupon they would be marched to the altar in short order to "do the right thing".
Heaven forbid the parents put them on birth control, because we all know that if you raise your child in church with Christian values, they won't be having sex, right?
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Jul 23 @ 2:44 PM Assuming the authority of God    
yashaenka


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There may be 1% of the Christian population that is devout for the rest their religion is a social forum either at church or a bible group. Although they all pretend to be devout and saved their actions in daily life say otherwise.

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Jul 23 @ 2:53 PM Assuming the authority of God    
Thor1960303


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Although they all pretend to be devout and saved their actions in daily life say otherwise.

I think the heavy duty prohibitive mandates exacerbate the problems the church tries to assuage. Just look at the average church when it lets out, people exiting can't wait to light up their smokes or attempt to beat the crowds to the restaurants for Sunday afternoon gluttony.

I worked in an adult video store as well as an X rated movie theater back in the day and I can't tell you how many deacons, pastors and other church official types were frequent patrons.

They seem to be people prone to extremism.
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Jul 23 @ 3:03 PM Assuming the authority of God    
Thor1960303


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I could reason my way out of things with logic and common sense.

Something happened there, Bev, because I see very little evidence that you ever had a rational or logical thought.

Head trauma?
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Jul 23 @ 3:05 PM Assuming the authority of God    
bevrice


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Lol, you guys are full of it. Tons of posts on sex sites?

I have never had cyber sex or online sex in my life, phone sex, ONCE, when I first came online. I was banned from plentyoffish forums for calling people who do that stuff cyberwhores, cybersluts and cyberholes, lol. I have told people over and over that all that stuff is addictive and that they should refrain from it. It is as addictive as crack cocaine. Anyway, who are you two guys to attack anyone's sexuality, to become experts on those things, that just shot all your validity about anything you say, down. If I DO have any posts on anything sexual, you will find that it is instructional or, calling something for what it is.

Hammer just said all that stuff to get me to answer and come back in here, you know.

Sex with two men in twenty five years qualifies me for that? I was celibate for many, many years and not even online.

You two just showed your OWN true colors. I am sorry for both of you. You have to resort to untrue personal attacks, become amateur psychologists who haven't the foggiest idea what they are talking about, your veracity and believability levels just dropped to zero.
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Jul 23 @ 3:12 PM Assuming the authority of God    
yashaenka


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I have told people over and over that all that stuff is addictive and that they should refrain from it. It is as addictive as crack cocaine.
So how do you know it is addictive since you have no first hand knowledge? What makes you an expert when your own experience is limited and you are without either one now?
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Jul 23 @ 3:13 PM Assuming the authority of God    
bevrice


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Hammer, I have been divorced from his father since my son was seven years old, lol. My son no longer drinks but on occasion, some at New Years, some alcoholic, huh?

Tobacco keeps me awake, I DO NOT take the amphetamines. Why do you have to resort to lies. You and Thor do that because you can't be decent and discuss things rationally NOR logically. You have to resort to attacks on Christians, and I think it is way past time for that stuff to end. I think the Moderators should do something about it. That is against forum rules, you know. I think Christians have turned the other cheek long enough and that the mods should do something about this stuff. This last bunch of lies and accusations was way past too much. You are slandering and lying not just about me but about my family. I have two children who are correctional officers, their conduct has to be above impeccable to be hired by the state. They were good kids and are very decent people now, loving and kind. You should have refrained from personal attacks. I have turned the other cheek long enough.

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Jul 23 @ 3:16 PM Assuming the authority of God    
bevrice


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Yash, even if I weren't a Christian counselor, I would know that, it is all over the internet, the learning channel and one of the major networks did specials on that.
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Jul 23 @ 3:20 PM Assuming the authority of God    
Thor1960303


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You and Thor do that because you can't be decent and discuss things rationally NOR logically

We have both presented logical counter arguments to your dogmatic religious posts and instead of discussing them rationally, you post pages and pages of cut and pasted articles, many from rather spurious sources or you just continually quote scriptures like a malfunctioning automaton.

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Jul 23 @ 3:21 PM Assuming the authority of God    
LanceVarden7


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I was banned from plentyoffish forums
We should be so lucky

and uhm....

didn't you say you were leaving?

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Jul 23 @ 3:28 PM Assuming the authority of God    
LaughTillYaPuke


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Thank you Jesus for Cancerous cigarettes!!!

[Edited on 7/23/2008 3:36 PM]
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Jul 23 @ 3:34 PM Assuming the authority of God    
yashaenka


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Um Laugh you are trying to reason with a person who does not understand what facts are...
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Jul 23 @ 3:36 PM Assuming the authority of God    
LaughTillYaPuke


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Good point. I'll go get rid of it....
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