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LanceVarden7
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I have offered to send credentials to anyone who wants them. You can email me. Credentials make no difference if you are a Christian, anyone can be a qualified Christian. bev, you keep spouting your resume, but it seems to not generate interest. Whatever documentation you might have for your credentials, it does not excuse your behavoir.
If you or your family never suffers a crisis, you will be more than blessed, you know, and I pray that you don't. My family and whatever crisises they may have are none of you business
I do know that you are not supposed to personally attack people in the forums. Then you should stop. I made a thread about attacking character and complaining about bad behavior. There is a differrence. Perhaps you should aquaint yourself with it.
I bet hunt got booted for much milder stuff than you guys have been putting forth here today. I don't know if hunt got booted or left on his own. He certainly deserved to be booted (as do you). In any event, it is nice having him gone.
Is it so hard to discuss Christianity without personally attacking people? No, its not. It happens all the time when you are absent.
We Christians can have some pretty good discussions on our own, you know. There are people, Christian and Non-Christian that are able to have good discussions. You are not one of them.
We have differences, too, and can have some pretty good discussions on them, but they are not done with malice or hatred or personal attacks. It is not that people hate you. They dislike your behavior and are sick of the way you treat them. I can't honestly say I blame them. I am sick of it too. If you would just drop the attitude, they would probably forgive your past offenses. But unfortunately, your pride and arrogance won't let you do that.
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| Jul 23 @ 4:43 PM |
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bevrice
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Lance, I have friends on here and on the site, some good ones, just as you do.
I noticed while going through my emails that lots of good, nice people are not here anymore, I will miss them.
You don't have problems because what is presented to you does not make you uncomfortable is presented without any veracity so, it doesn't bother you.
Even when I am not here, you seemed to have a problem with hunt, seal, and even soc. These are people who are truly Christians. They have a right to their viewpoint just as you do without your personal attacks. If you can't discuss debate without that, it makes you look small.
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| Jul 23 @ 4:50 PM |
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LanceVarden7
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Even when I am not here, you seemed to have a problem with hunt, seal, and even soc. Not true. I like and respect SOC a great deal. I don't really know too much about Seal. I did not like hunt becuase he behaved much the same way you do, using religion as a tool to demean others.
These are people who are truly Christians. You just don't get. It is a horrible blashpemy for you to try to assume the authority of judging who and who is not truly Christian
They have a right to their viewpoint just as you do without your personal attacks. If you can't discuss debate without that, it makes you look small. When I start condescending people, the way you do, I will worry about looking small. To most of us you look extremely small.
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bevrice
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Puke, yes, I just read ALL of our emails. He sent me an email the other day, you know. I have never met him in person, either, but he says he is not the same anymore.
I certainly DO remember him, lol. I hope he has changed for the better, like he says. He could be a very nice person. He was always nice to me.
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| Jul 23 @ 4:54 PM |
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ServantOfChrist2
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Bev, my friend...I do not recall ever having a problem with Lance.
I've disagreed with some of the things he's posted.
He's disagreed with some of the stuff I written.
But nothing worth mentioning. 
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bevrice
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Lance, you know a true Christian by their beliefs, the way the live their lives, their adherrance to the word, their search for the truth, their dedication, the way they strive to do what the word says to do.
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| Jul 23 @ 4:56 PM |
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LaughTillYaPuke
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I agree on that. One mistake does not make a bad man. The fact that he publically apologized spoke volumns about his character. 
I don't think he was bad to begin with, just made a foolish choice...
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bevrice
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Soc, sorry, I thought he was badgering you on that last group of posts. I should have known, everyone loves you, including me.
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| Jul 23 @ 4:58 PM |
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LanceVarden7
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Bev, my friend...I do not recall ever having a problem with Lance.
I've disagreed with some of the things he's posted.
He's disagreed with some of the stuff I written.
But nothing worth mentioning. That is because SOC does not demean and judege people the way you do, bev. You could learn by his example.
Lance, you know a true Christian by their beliefs, the way the live their lives, their adherrance to the word, their search for the truth, their dedication, the way they strive to do what the word says to do. God judges who the real Christians are, not you.
[Edited on 7/23/2008 5:00 PM]
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bevrice
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He was always my friend, you know, that never stopped, he is still my friend. At that time, his problem was he had too many friends, but he says he has turned over a new leaf, and I believe him. I always liked him.
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| Jul 23 @ 5:09 PM |
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bevrice
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Are You A Real Christian?http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/christian.htm
Are you a real Christian or just a church-goer? Please don't think they are the same. Remember this eternal truth from the Lord:
Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven (Mt. 7:21).
Nowhere in the Bible does it say that a Christian is one who gets dressed up, goes inside a building commonly called a "church" and sits through a sermon! Many that will go to Hell do this every week, but don't possess an obedient faith in Christ needed to enter God's Kingdom.
So how does the Bible describe the real Christian between initial and final salvation? Is his life now, because of grace, one in which he can sit back, relax, pursue the pleasures of this world and even start to live again according to the sinful nature with no possible hindrance to his personal entrance into the kingdom of God? According to the Bible, the Christian in this life now is:
a soldier in a battle (2 Tim. 2:3,4),
a runner in a long distance race (Acts 20:24; 1 Cor. 9:24; etc.),
a worker in a vineyard (Mt. 20:1-16),
a fruit tree required to bear good fruit (John 15:5,6),
a self-denying Jesus follower (Lk. 9:23),
a manager or steward (Mt. 25:14-30),
a witness of Jesus (Acts 1:8, 22; 2 Tim. 2:2; Rev. 2:13),
a wrestler against the forces of darkness (Eph. 6:12),
in a struggle against sin (Heb. 12:4),
an alien-stranger in this world (1 Pet. 1:1, 17; 2:11),
and a servant (or slave) of God (Acts 4:29; 1 Thess. 1:9).
Instead of striving to please God and live holy lives, many people who once believed are now lukewarm, drunkards and sexually immoral with some of them thinking they are guaranteed an entrance into the Kingdom of Heaven because of the false teaching of eternal security. Sadly, that "sin gospel" is embraced by most popular teachers of our apostate day and has adversely affected the church worldwide. It is also one of the greatest threats to holiness, which has lead to untold broken homes, criminal acts and many suicides!
Then there is the rampant problem of divorce and remarriage which has resulted with multitudes of illegitimate marriages, with both parties being adulterous (Mt. 5:32; 19:9; Lk. 16:18; Rom. 7:2,3; etc.). Even many pastors, elders and worship leaders in local congregations are adulterous, according to those Scriptures, with no fear of going to an eternal Hell, in spite of the clarity of Scripture (1 Cor. 6:9,10; Eph. 5:5-7; Rev. 21:8; etc.)
What the world needs today are spiritual leaders who, like John the Baptist, will fearlessly declare God's truths without concern of repercussions. Rather than thinking of their own ministries they are to be guards over the eternal souls entrusted to them. But very few seem to be this God fearing. Folks, this is serious! We, our loved ones and friends will be affected throughout all eternity by what we are doing now in this short life. Paul shed his blood at least nine different times and spent years in prison in his battle for eternity. In our day, professing "Christians" spend years of their lives in front of TV as they view things that can spiritually defile them and their loved ones!
In closing remember the following, as you assess yourself spiritually:
He replied, "My mother and brothers are those who hear God's word and put it into practice" (Lk. 8:21).
The man who says, "I know him," but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in him (1 John 2:4).
Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice and come out—those who have done good will rise to live, and those who have done evil will rise to be condemned (John 5:28,29).
To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life (Rom 2:7).
The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life. Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up (Gal 6:8,9).
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| Jul 23 @ 5:16 PM |
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bevrice
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That post is a little strong, but very scriptural, you know.
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| Jul 23 @ 5:27 PM |
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LanceVarden7
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bev, do you really not understand that no one is interested in your judgements, or your attempt at vindicating them?
You really need to get a life
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hammertime
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You really need to get a life
But this is her life... 
Lots of coffee and cigarettes later.... 
[Edited on 7/23/2008 5:31 PM]
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| Jul 23 @ 5:31 PM |
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bevrice
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Lance, basically, I gave you scripture on that post. I have a life, Jesus is the way, the life and the truth.
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hammertime
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| Jul 23 @ 5:33 PM |
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hammertime
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I can't wait for Goose and Puke to have sex.
Nice to know some people are doing positive things.
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| Jul 23 @ 5:34 PM |
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hammertime
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Bev
Do people having sex bother you?
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| Jul 23 @ 5:37 PM |
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sail_dancer
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Bev,
Do you ever read before you cut and paste?
In the past you have supported the "once saved, always saved" theory. But your cut and paste says:Instead of striving to please God and live holy lives, many people who once believed are now lukewarm, drunkards and sexually immoral with some of them thinking they are guaranteed an entrance into the Kingdom of Heaven because of the false teaching of eternal security. Sadly, that "sin gospel" is embraced by most popular teachers of our apostate day and has adversely affected the church worldwide. It is also one of the greatest threats to holiness, which has lead to untold broken homes, criminal acts and many suicides!
You also say that you must accept Jesus as your savior and be baptized in the holy spirit to be saved. The C&P says:In closing remember the following, as you assess yourself spiritually:
He replied, "My mother and brothers are those who hear God's word and put it into practice" (Lk. 8:21).
The man who says, "I know him," but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in him (1 John 2:4).
Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice and come out—those who have done good will rise to live, and those who have done evil will rise to be condemned (John 5:28,29).
To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life (Rom 2:7).
The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life. Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up (Gal 6:8,9). No mention of acceptance of Jesus as savior. No requirement of baptism in the holy spirit. Nothing about being washed in Jesus blood.
What, pray tell, do you really believe? You constantly contradict yourself.
Peace
[Edited on 7/23/2008 5:39 PM]
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| Jul 23 @ 5:37 PM |
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hammertime
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Goose, although I am retired and need to renew my license, need to get that in the mail, I have offered to send credentials to anyone who wants them. You can email me. Credentials make no difference if you are a Christian, anyone can be a qualified Christian. Bogus credentials. Purely religious in nature. Anyone can spend $25 and get ordained too. No real education either, all religion, nothing to do with real science. Nothing to do with real knowledge.
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