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bevrice

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No, that is their business and should be kept THEIR business and between the two of them. It doesn't belong in here, you know, hammer.
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| Jul 23 @ 5:50 PM |
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ServantOfChrist2

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Lance, Bev is a Christian. You are a Christian.
Obviously you have a problem with her. But it is not right for Christians to duke-it-out in public view.
We are called to be different from the secular world. Is bickering worthy of your Christian calling?
As Christians we are in a position to enjoy blessings from the Father reserved for those who love Him.
If you feel the need to call her on something, can't you do that through an IM?
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| Jul 23 @ 5:54 PM |
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hammertime

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No, that is their business and should be kept THEIR business and between the two of them. It doesn't belong in here, you know, hammer. Yes its their business and their right to discuss it. Sex belongs in these forums. We can all discuss Tantric sex, Kundalini yoga, and the Kama Sutra since that is about spirituality leading to oneness and enlightenment.
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| Jul 23 @ 5:55 PM |
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sail_dancer

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SOC,
And why should christians speak out against non-christians in a public forum and only contradict christians in a private discussion?
Both are unchristian like ..... right?
Or is it only unchristian like to speak out against anothet christian?
Where is rule set forth in your bible or dogma?
Peace
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| Jul 23 @ 5:57 PM |
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hammertime

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SOC seeks to hide dysfunctional problems to present a false face to the public. Too late. We know Christians are very dysfunctional.
As Christians we are in a position to enjoy blessings from the Father reserved for those who love Him. Isn't this proof of that? That one dwells in the pretend world of religion and fantasy.
[Edited on 7/23/2008 5:58 PM]
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| Jul 23 @ 5:58 PM |
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sail_dancer

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Bev,
You have not responded to my question on the prior page.
Did you miss the post, or are you just ignoring it?
Peace
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| Jul 23 @ 5:59 PM |
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bevrice

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Sail, we can all disagree with each other all we want, and disagree about our personal beliefs, but, really should not resort to personal attacks.
SOC is right, if I have attacked you on a personal level, I should not have done that, so please forgive me, lance.
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| Jul 23 @ 6:02 PM |
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Thor1960303

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Is it so hard to discuss Christianity without personally attacking people? Of course it is, but you, Hunt and others take it personally when people disagree. You guys don't appeart to want to discuss, you just want to quote scripture and have an "amen corner". If that's what you want, fine, go to Christian only threads. I might even suggest beliefnet, I'm on there as well, but they have categories for Christians only.
You guys have a problem with people who aren't Christian and have no intentions of becoming such. Whenever your beliefs are challenged, you run to c & p, which in many cases is fine as long as you can write your own words stating why you believe what you do and why what you cut and pasted is a good source. Instead, you just cut and paste more and go into more emotionalistic rhetoric, especially when someone questions the veracity of your source.
I understand the problem. Most of the stuff discussed between Christians and non Christians reaches a point of undebatability. You reach a point where you have to say, "I just disagree because I have faith". This is fine until you and others go on about how everyone else is wrong or misled because they don't believe in Jesus or the Bible. Then, of course people get upset because Hindus, Buddhists, Jainists,Wiccans, Pagans, Muslims and anyone else who disgarees with you believe in their beliefs just as strongly as you do yours. Someone who worships the Mother Earth goddess can be every bit as emotional about her as you are about Jesus. Even up to the point of having hallucinations and believing in supernatural events. Would Hammer, myself or Goose say they are delusional? Probably so, so don't feel like the Lone Ranger. We don't just pick on you because you're Christian. These so called "attacks" are self inflicted.
Last school year my daughter was doing a report on the Greek god Posiedon and she asked my help. I showed her an article on him and showed her where it mentioned that the believers in Posiedon, often sailors naturally, offered sacrifices by dropping horses into the ocean, allowing them to drown. She, being an animal lover like all of us was horrified and felt that they were crazy. I told her no, it's just how they believed then and they were every bit as devout in their beliefs as her Christian, Jewish or Muslim friends who attend church,synagogue or mosque today are theirs. The point is, religion and spirituality are emotional subjects, so either way, someone is going to get offended at some point because no matter how strongly you believe in your religion of choice, someone out there will disagree vehemently, so get used to that if you want to go into PUBLIC forums.
I personally could care less if you have a profile on AMD or wherever and I'm even more apathetic as to how many bed partners you have or haven't had. It's not a criteria of judgement on a person's character for me. I don't really even have any qualms about your character anyway. I do, however question your mental health and that's out of concern, NOT out of any ill feelings or disagreement with your beliefs.
Now back on topic, I was going to post something but got sidetracked (gee how unusual here ). As for people having the "authority of God": My own personal belief based on observation and historical study, is that such is a political tool, mainly. History shows that most ancient pharoes, kings and emperors believed themselves to be half god or some such and it was used as a tool to maintain power. It never completely went away, unfortunately.
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| Jul 23 @ 6:02 PM |
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bevrice

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Hammer, all of that still belongs in the sex threads, not in here, you know that.
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sail_dancer

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Bev,
You didn't answer my question from the prior page!
Peace
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| Jul 23 @ 6:04 PM |
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hammertime

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Hammer, all of that still belongs in the sex threads, not in here, you know that. No, hard core sex belongs in the sex threads but spritual sex belongs here. Tantra, Kundalini and the Kama Sutra are all about spiritual growth.
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LanceVarden7

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I should not have done that, so please forgive me, lance. Forgiven. I will not bring it up again unless you do.
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| Jul 23 @ 6:06 PM |
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Thor1960303

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Anyone can spend $25 and get ordained too. I once had a generic media parking credential for my car. It had MEDIA on one side and CLERGY on the other. I could change professions just by turning the card around.
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| Jul 23 @ 6:06 PM |
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SunBabe

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SOC said:
We are called to be different from the secular world. There are plenty of Christians who are assimilated into the secular world, yanno...not ALL "Christians" find the need to isolate (or elevate ) themselves through "differences". My guess is that most realistic and rational ones don't.
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| Jul 23 @ 6:15 PM |
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bevrice

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While you started out on a very good vein, Thor, you again resorted to a personal attack. I assure you that I am very mentally stable. I carry around no emotional baggage. You know Christians are more stable than other people, because we DON"T carry around baggage. We forgive people, in forgiving, you get rid of all that stuff. Most Christians are a very happy peoples. I am always happy, never in a bad mood. Most Christians don't worry about things, we don't have to, they are all taken care of. So, now, thor, tell me that you fall in line with all the things I have mentioned.
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| Jul 23 @ 6:18 PM |
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bevrice

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Sun, all the unbelievers say that Christianity is MOST unrealistic and irrational. They have been on that one for days on end.
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| Jul 23 @ 6:22 PM |
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hammertime

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Thor, you again resorted to a personal attack. I assure you that I am very mentally stable.
For me the tobacco is a medicine. I DO know that God has provided tobacco for me for years.
This morning I was thinking about the date I was planning for this week end, he was driving a great distance here and was going to stay in town. I was getting ready to pour my coffee and suddenly, it was like I was physically pushed backwards and I heard, "BACK OFF." Lol, I love it, guess who was telling me that that one wasn't going to happen either to just back off. Now, I know you guys will think I am hearing voices, am crazy, but I am not, and voices don't push you backwards, not enough to make me think I would fall, but enough to know that I was thinking about meeting the wrong man.
I assure you that I am very mentally stable.
I assure you that I am very mentally stable.
I assure you that I am very mentally stable.
I assure you that I am very mentally stable.
I assure you that I am very mentally stable.
[Edited on 7/23/2008 6:24 PM]
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| Jul 23 @ 6:23 PM |
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16knots

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You arent mentally stable bev. You are delusional and ignorant.
Why?
Its the nature of things but you are more so than most. Who on earth would wish to believe in an evil god!!!!!
God's anger is fierce and endures long Num 32:13/ Num 25:4/ Jer 17:4
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| Jul 23 @ 6:28 PM |
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Cynbaby

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Knots!!! I was just thinking about you. Shouldn't you be running for cover from "Dolly"?
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| Jul 23 @ 6:28 PM |
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SunBabe

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StBeverly said:
While you started out on a very good vein, Thor, you again resorted to a personal attack. I assure you that I am very mentally stable. I carry around no emotional baggage. You know Christians are more stable than other people, because we DON"T carry around baggage. We forgive people, in forgiving, you get rid of all that stuff. Most Christians are a very happy peoples. I am always happy, never in a bad mood. Most Christians don't worry about things, we don't have to, they are all taken care of. So, now, thor, tell me that you fall in line with all the things I have mentioned. To tell the truth, some of the most miserable, negative people I've ever run across proclaimed themselves to be zealous "Christians" -- and some of the happiest people I've ever known have never had a moment of religion touch their amazing lives.
Generalizing like that is too easy to disprove. I'd introduce you to the miserable ones who expect Jesus or God to guide their lives, but I haven't stayed in contact...I don't allow that type in my life. (I take responsibility for my own happiness and contentment. )
all the unbelievers say that Christianity is MOST unrealistic and irrational There you go, generalizing again.
[Edited on 7/23/2008 6:31 PM]
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