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bevrice
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DOES THE WORLD HATE CHRISTIANS?
if the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you john 15:18
if ye were of the world,the world would love his own; but because ye are not of the world, but i have chosen you out of the world,therefore the world hateth you. john 15;19
So, should we be one with the world and loved by the world or not?
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| Jul 23 @ 5:35 PM |
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SunBabe
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 Dumb question -- except to those who want to feel like some sort of martyred victim.
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| Jul 23 @ 5:39 PM |
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BandTMom
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 Sunny.
I don't hate anyone.
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| Jul 23 @ 5:41 PM |
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Loreli
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Me neither.
We can even be loved by a Christian, and not particularly liked by them.
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| Jul 23 @ 5:44 PM |
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sail_dancer
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Sunny,
To hate is wrong and I hate no one. The bigger wrong is thinking that another hates you just because of your beliefs without substantiating the fact.
Peace
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| Jul 23 @ 5:48 PM |
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hammertime
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Bev's abusive and dysfunctional family gave her the foundation of being a victim and using Christianity to glorify her own persecution complex.
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| Jul 23 @ 5:48 PM |
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Gallows_Humor
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We have differences, too, and can have some pretty good discussions on them, but they are not done with malice or hatred or personal attacks. It is not that people hate you. They dislike your behavior and are sick of the way you treat them. I can't honestly say I blame them. I am sick of it too. If you would just drop the attitude, they would probably forgive your past offenses. But unfortunately, your pride and arrogance won't let you do that.
think it bears repeating.....(taken from from another thread here...)
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| Jul 23 @ 6:39 PM |
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16knots
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Sun:
Dumb question -- except to those who want to feel like some sort of martyred victim.
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| Jul 23 @ 8:35 PM |
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bevrice
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Hammer, again, you make unfair and untrue insinuations. My family was neither abusive nor dysfunctional. I again ask you to stop the personal attacks which bear no revelance to the truth.
Jesus himself said those words.
Lore, you are right, we do have the love of other Christians, we love everyone, even if we don't like them.
Lol, Sun, matyred, NEVER, we lead a victorious life in Jesus, a beautiful one and when the chips are down, everyone comes to us for prayer, they come to the Lord, at least, the ones who are not full of themselves and pride.
Arrogance, no, surety in my faith, YES. I see much more arrogance and pride in those who don't believe and think they know everything about everything, those who are intolerant of everyone else. Those who don't let others believe what they will. I have no problem with any of you believing whatever you want. I won't support your beliefs, but you have every right to them. You know, all the attacks simply boil down to fear, fear that we are right about the Lord, about God and that you might be missing the boat, otherwise, you couldn't care less about what we believe. I don't care what the buddhists believe, the muslims, the hindus, atheists, or agnostics, any belief, they are not a threat to me, nor are their beliefs a threat to any Christian for, believe it or not, we know the truth. So, do I come against them for believing what they believe, why? Christians are always put on the defensive in these threads, is that fair? I don't even bother to read the buddhist threads or the muslim ones or the new age ones.
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| Jul 23 @ 9:02 PM |
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j_goose
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My family was neither abusive nor dysfunctional
Lie.
Wanna see the posts???
I hate arrogance. Not arrogant people.
I hate ignorance. Not ignorant people.
I hate organized religion. Not Religious people.
I hate mayonaise. Not mayonaise covered people.
So, do I come against them for believing what they believe, why? Christians are always put on the defensive in these threads, is that fair? I don't even bother to read the buddhist threads or the muslim ones or the new age ones.
Again, educate yourself, Bev. You may learn something. Christianity claims to be the one and only "truth". Prove it. Prove that the athiest is wrong. Prove the Diest incorrect. Prove that the Jews are wrong.
You can't. You won't. You won't even discuss something simple like the Pagan rituals borrowed by the Christians. The fact that there are dozens of gods born of virgins, etc.
Cristianity has nothing new to offer.
[Edited on 7/23/2008 9:05 PM]
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| Jul 23 @ 9:05 PM |
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bevrice
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Yes, goose, I certainly do, please. If you are speaking about what my oldest daughter went through, then, it doesn't matter, that is not what she was brought up to be, not anything she learned at home. She simply married the wrong man. I pray that never happens to one of your children. BTW, she is not very well adjusted, very happy, very single, and her daughter is here with her. She has a beautiful new home that is all but paid for, full of gorgeous furniture and full of love and happiness.
[Edited on 7/23/2008 9:08 PM]
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| Jul 23 @ 9:08 PM |
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j_goose
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You never posted about alcoholism in your family?
That's quite disfunctional, bev.....
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| Jul 23 @ 9:12 PM |
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SunBabe
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How ARROGANT of you to ASSume the so-called "attacks" are based on FEAR of ANY sort!  How ARROGANT of you to ASSume that your brand of "faith" is the ONLY valid kind in this whole wide world. 
we lead a victorious life in Jesus
Or is that "vicarious" life? 
And how ARROGANT to ASSume that zillions of non-Bev/Hunt-Brand of the "Uber-ChristianCult" or even NON-Christians aren't living absolutely wonderful, happy, love-filled lives ALSO...without FEAR, without blood-bathing, Holy-Roly Oil Annoontments, and DemonDemolitionDerbys -- or pretentious pontifical prayers.
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| Jul 23 @ 9:12 PM |
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bevrice
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About my son drinking too much when he was a teen, of course I did, but you know, God took care of that, it never lasted but about two months. That is far from dysfunctional.
You know, you are divorced, is your family dysfunctional, do you have custody of your children?
You know, everyone has things in life that smack them. EVERYONE. It is how you come out of them in the long run that make the difference. The kind of person you are. Things can either break you or make you.
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| Jul 23 @ 9:14 PM |
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LaughTillYaPuke
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And how ARROGANT to ASSume that zillions of non-Bev/Hunt-Brand of the "Uber-ChristianCult" or even NON-Christians aren't living absolutely wonderful, happy, love-filled lives ALSO...without FEAR, without blood-bathing, Holy-Roly Oil Annoontments, and DemonDemolitionDerbys -- or pretentious pontifical prayers .
DING DING DING!!!
We have a winner!!! 
The kind of person you are. Things can either break you or make you .
And THERE it is! It is how YOU personally handle your obsticals, not how you toss it to the fates that matter!
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| Jul 23 @ 9:17 PM |
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bevrice
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Lol, not arrogant, not presumptious, simply the truth. It is very evident. If you weren't you simply wouldn't care what we thought or believe. Like I said, I am not afraid of buddhism, I don't have to go into their threads to reinforce my unbelief or have other unbelievers support me in my unbelief that I might feel more assured in not being a buddhist, that I might convince myself that they are not right. Even the least experienced psychologist could see that one, it doesn't take any genius to figure that one out. Why are not you guys in other threads refuting and making light of other religions? Why, because they are not a threat to you.
[Edited on 7/23/2008 9:23 PM]
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| Jul 23 @ 9:19 PM |
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bevrice
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Yes, puke, but you see we handle things differently than you might, you know.
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| Jul 23 @ 9:20 PM |
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SunBabe
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You know, everyone has things in life that smack them. EVERYONE. It is how you come out of them in the long run that make the difference. The kind of person you are. Things can either break you or make you.
FINALLY something that I can fully agree with!
And whether one credits Jesus, God, Krishna, the Buddha, Karma, Fate, or simply themselves, it DOES depend on the kind of person you are. SOME people have the inborn inner strength to survive well on their own. SOME people find it more comfortable to rely on someone -- or some THING -- else.
What sucks is when they use that someone -- or some THING -- as an excuse for their own failures. 
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| Jul 23 @ 9:24 PM |
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j_goose
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I don't have to go into their threads to reinforce my unbelief or have other unbelievers support me in my unbelief that I might feel more assured in not being a buddhist, that I might convince myself that they are not right.
Don't you see, that IS fear.
You skirting questions about your fith or camoflaguing them with C & P's is fear.
Try answering questions rather than running in fear that someone (an unbeliever) may be right and YOU are wrong.
So, on a side note, why do you answer one way, wait for us to reply, and go back and edit what you said? It's happened TWICE in this thread alone.
BTW....Hey Puke.....turn to page 105 in your Karma Sutra, I think there's something there you might be interested in..... 
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| Jul 23 @ 9:27 PM |
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bevrice
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Well, I don't think I know anyone who uses that as an excuse for their failures. A person is the sum total of the decisions they make in life. We can no ever blame anyone else for what or how we are, it all began with ourself and the decisions we made. That is the beginning of a sound mind, sound emotional health when people realize and acknowledge that one. We are not products of our families nor socieity or circumstance.
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