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Now that is just a stupid statement. Wisdom doesn't necessarily come with age for one and for the other you can not know what someone else discerns or does not. As so many have pointed out here time and again you that belittle the faith of Jesus Christ with your pathetic mental gymnastics are a sad perverted deceived bunch to say the least and keep things polite, something most of you don't know how to do.
That bold text was rather polite as well.
Jesus is a plagurism of other more ancient religions. Why have you, Bev, hunt, soccor, and SOC not made any note of that, or provided information to the contrary? Because you refuse to see what others have found? None of us have EVER said that the TEACHINGS of the mythical Jesus were bad. They're quite good, however, Jesus is a myth. A copy. Xerox.
And following a fictional character is what opens up the discussion to belittling the faith in Jesus.
Believe in yourself, and live a moral life.
You don't need a fictional character to do that. You can do that all by yourself.
Wisdom does come with age and experence, I hate to tell ya....
Does a three year old child have more wisdom than a 30 year old? I think not. Wisdom comes with experience. Exerience comes with age.
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| Jul 31 @ 7:40 PM |
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Seal,
I see the face of God even in those that damn us; not seeing His face would be problematic for me. For them, they have found justification in a holy book to not seek His face in me,(previously used in another thread by me)
I still hold them innocent...and pray their God offers them peace and comfort should they ever notice that the pathetic, sad, perverted, deceived bunch, in front of their pulpit already love you as we love ourselves.
Edited to correct confusion on the "quote" usage. The second paragraph was referent to your post that j-goose had commented on between your post and mine.
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| Jul 31 @ 8:42 PM |
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nah12
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no Uncrazy those do not always go hand in hand ... research it or better still look around ....
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| Jul 31 @ 8:48 PM |
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kattsmeow
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I came here to see what Nah was doing in here. 
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| Jul 31 @ 9:07 PM |
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sealacamp
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Seal,
I see the face of God even in those that damn us; not seeing His face would be problematic for me. For them, they have found justification in a holy book to not seek His face in me,
I did not say this and I have no idea what you are talking about either.
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| Jul 31 @ 9:10 PM |
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uncrazy
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Seal,
I apoligize for the confusion, I said what is in the quotes on another thread...I did not mean that you said it. I should have clarified what I was responding to in your previous post to the one you reference.
Corrction made to the confusing thread above. Thank you for pointing it out.
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Thor1960303
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Jesus is a myth. A copy. Xerox.
Actually he's more of a compositeof many myths rather than a direct copy of one myth. He's a 2000 year old Forrest Gump story. A fictional character injected into history just like Forrest.
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| Aug 1 @ 11:30 AM |
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16knots
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Uncrazxy:
nah12,
...practicality, common sense, prudence and discretion ….
Wouldn't these be the very aspects of wisdom?
None of these can be valid without wisdom.
Practicality comes from wisdom in knowing what one is doing to be pratical, that the wise know how to be practical and the unwise impractical.
Much the same with common sense, prudence and discretion.
Gaining and having Wisdom does not require anything more than being "Aware."
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| Aug 1 @ 12:53 PM |
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nah12
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Ok guess you need a little example of how they don't always go hand in hand ... 
Lets say there is someone in their 50’s that knows that drinking and driving drunk is stupid and that could possibly lead to accidents, tickets and even death. They have gained this wisdom through seeing the effects of drunk driving and over the years with their wisdom gained with age they know it to even be a fact that if caught driving while drunk you will be arrested. BUT guess what even with all that wisdom gained they still one night for the 1st time ever get in the car after drinking one night and low and behold they have an accident and kill someone and end up charged with vehicular homicide. Know they had the wisdom of the consequences of drinking and it impairing your thought process but still they drank and they drove. So now you tell me that they applied practicality, common sense, prudence and discretion with the wisdom that they originally possessed .
Yes this is only one type of example where someone had the wisdom to know better but thy do not apply practicality, common sense, prudence and discretion with that wisdom. And yes there are many other example that one can use to show that wisdom does not mean one is more intelligent just because they are older or posses wisdom alone. They must apply practicality, common sense, prudence and discretion with wisdom for it to be applicable.
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hammertime
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Those who know better yet are unable to apply it has a weak will. They are easily compelled by urges they can't overcome. They weak minded. These people can not be considered wise. Wisdom includes knowing and doing. Wisdom is applied knowledge gained from many sources but especially experience.
A person that sounds wise but doesn't do as they say isn't walking the talk. They're the ones who are full of shit.
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| Aug 1 @ 1:19 PM |
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hammertime
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Its always best to clear one's throat before speaking 
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| Aug 1 @ 1:27 PM |
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nah12
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maybe one needs to get off that and learn to apply practicality, common sense, prudence and discretion with all that wisdom they are suppose to posses .... 
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| Aug 1 @ 1:42 PM |
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hammertime
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I think finishing their business on the is a wise thing before going on to other business. 
Of course, you could always bring your laptop with you. 
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| Aug 1 @ 2:00 PM |
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16knots
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nah:
Ok guess you need a little example of how they don't always go hand in hand ...
"That'll be the Day"
Lets say there is someone in their 50’s that knows that drinking and driving drunk is stupid and that could possibly lead to accidents, tickets and even death. They have gained this wisdom through seeing the effects of drunk driving and over the years with their wisdom gained with age they know it to even be a fact that if caught driving while drunk you will be arrested.
People dont have wisdom because they have experience or have knowledge or both, or of events in their lives. They "may" gain wisdom "If" they become "aware" of the consequences of actions.
It isnt a fact you may get arrested if caught driving whilst drunk but a "likelihood" or a possible consequence to a taken actions.
Neither does wisdom come with age.
Wisdom would be to take the wise action for what ever desired, "aware" or conscious decisions required and not through consequence of having ignorance.
BUT guess what even with all that wisdom gained they still one night for the 1st time ever get in the car after drinking one night and low and behold they have an accident and kill someone and end up charged with vehicular homicide.
In respect to your posting:
There is no wisdom in their behaviour. And, no wisdom ever to know when to recognise wisdom.
Know they had the wisdom of the consequences of drinking and it impairing your thought process but still they drank and they drove.
If they had the wisdom in the beginning they simply would not have fallen into this bad example.
So now you tell me that they applied practicality, common sense, prudence and discretion with the wisdom that they originally possessed .
 Who said that?
"None of these can be valid without wisdom." was stated.
Yes this is only one type of example where someone had the wisdom to know better but thy do not apply practicality, common sense, prudence and discretion with that wisdom.
Double dutch! IF, they had the wisdom to know better and obviously they did not, the others would have fallen into place..."practicality, common sense, prudence and discretion". What they showed was impracticality, lack of common sense, et cetera because they did not have the wisdom to be "aware" of their situation.
And yes there are many other example that one can use to show that wisdom does not mean one is more intelligent just because they are older or posses wisdom alone.
Who mentioned "intelligence"? It has been stated:
"Neither does wisdom come with age." although Nah, you did imply it does.
They must apply practicality, common sense, prudence and discretion with wisdom for it to be applicable.
Not so at all. Wisdom can stand alone without the need of any of them or they come under the auspices of wisdom.
e.g. "A wise man can act a fool but a fool can not act a wise man."
A wise man may act consciously in wisdom to expect a non-practical, uncommon nonsensical, imprudent consequence, et cetera if desired.
They can either be wise actions or they can be un-wise actions with all the associated consequences because again.... "None of these can be valid without wisdom or lack of wisdom.
"Wisdom" is one of the great fabrics of the cosmos. It does not require anything else but "awareness."
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nah12
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Seems some have a problem thinking that wisdom means one always applies practicality, common sense, prudence and discretion. But look back it was NOT i that said wisdom came with age quite the reverse ... so what happen to your wisdom there 
Then look back and read how many said they had wisdom and was wiser than someone else on this thread to only show how unwise they where to even assume much less state it to be a fact when in fact they do NOT know the other person or their lack of or amount of wisdom ...
See most did not apply practicality, common sense, prudence and discretion to the wisdom in the definition of what they thought wisdom to be .....
But i will give most credit for their ability to be nasty and have a holier than thou attitude about their so called professed wisdom .....
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| Aug 1 @ 2:41 PM |
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hammertime
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While we're on wisdom, the funniest story I heard was Christians can pray for wisdom. Seems they believe you don't need any knowledge, any experience, any thinking, any contemplation, any anything whatsoever but faith. That is to say, wisdom from nothing.
This must truly be what a Christian savant is.
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Uncrazy:
nah12,
...practicality, common sense, prudence and discretion ….
Wouldn't these be the very aspects of wisdom?
Nah:
no Uncrazy those do not always go hand in hand ... research it or better still look around ....
Seems some have a problem thinking that wisdom means one always applies practicality, common sense, prudence and discretion. But look back it was NOT i that said wisdom came with age quite the reverse ... so what happen to your wisdom there
To be practical implies an amount of wisdom or "common sense" or reverse it or any of them.
"practicality, common sense, prudence and discretion" each have wisdom.
Then look back and read how many said they had wisdom and was wiser than someone else on this thread to only show how unwise they where to even assume much less state it to be a fact when in fact they do NOT know the other person or their lack of or amount of wisdom ...
Who are saying they are wiser? I dont think I have ever read anyone saying so
See most did not apply practicality, common sense, prudence and discretion to the wisdom in the definition of what they thought wisdom to be .....
You dont apply these to wisdom. They contain wisdom. Imagine trying to apply common sense to wisdom???? That would make wisdom null and void from the start.
But i will give most credit for their ability to be nasty and have a holier than thou attitude about their so called professed wisdom .....
Yes, many do lack wisdom. They ARE IGNORANT, like us all.
Have fun in your dreams
Always do..... what are you doing tonight?
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Those who know better yet are unable to apply it has a weak will. They are easily compelled by urges they can't overcome. They weak minded. These people can not be considered wise. Wisdom includes knowing and doing. Wisdom is applied knowledge gained from many sources but especially experience.
A person that sounds wise but doesn't do as they say isn't walking the talk. They're the ones who are full of shit.
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hammertime
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 OMG!! I made grammatical errors. I better take another
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