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Thor1960303
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Thor, you should know different than that. If you had done what maybe that dream was telling you to do, you would be a very wealthy man by now. Well for one thing, it's difficult to decipher what a dream is supposed to be "telling" when it's in a foriegn language with no subtitles.
I don't know about that one way or the other, Bev, as stuff was starting to fill up the shelves in the USA very soon after that happened as it was bound to,so the prophetic efficacy of the dream was somewhat compromised I would say, a little late on the trigger.At any rate, I'm pretty sure that I wouldn't have had the working capital then to buy products in the bulk needed to sell them anyway. The idea of selling health products and services has been in the back of my mind for many years anyway, so it stands to reason it would stick in the old subconscious. Today,these products are found in lines of everything from health supplements to soft drinks and can be found domestically, so it's still not out of the question I could use that as a side line some day.
[Edited on 7/28/2008 1:06 PM]
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| Jul 28 @ 3:02 PM |
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uncrazy
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On dream problem solving...I was repairing a blown power suppy on a multi-layer printed circuit. I could not get the last stage to switch on. I had studied the scematic of the circuit for three days and had replaced all the components. I had no success and was frustrated because I had could find no reason for it not working.
In sleep that night, I saw the circuit scematic I had been studying...and saw a line in the drawing dissappear as I watched. The next morning on the test bench I measured for continuity of the conductor linking the components. One of the connecting lines inside the board had shorted out and vaporized to create a break in the conductor.
I guess I could use this all as proof of God...but what inside of me would create such a need to link the results of training and experience and seeing the problem in a dream to a proof of God?
It seems strange to me that others would say this is proof...not something I find it important to do to support the world I live in.
My focus will remain on loving God and all you as myself...not saying that I can fix an electronic circuit after a lot of training is proof of God.
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| Jul 28 @ 3:14 PM |
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Thor1960303
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I think what happens in cases like that, Uncrazy is that your creative thought and problem solving processes are still going on in your sleep and the solution that had eluded you buried itself somewhere in your cranium. Kind of like when you're mulling over a problem and when you take a break from it and stop thinking about it, the solution just comes to you. Often this is interpreted as divine inspiration.
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| Jul 28 @ 5:17 PM |
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bevrice
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Yes, thor, it is called divine inspiration and makes a lot more sense
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| Jul 28 @ 5:33 PM |
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uncrazy
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Bev,
If I hadn't received a lot of expensive training, I doubt that I could have ever fixed the problem...no matter how much inspiration I received. Skills and knowledge factors were required, not miracles...if God was interested in impressing me, he'd have restored the circuit board prior to it failing.
I live in a reasonable world and it operates quite well without making the mundane sacred. I have a relationships with the God of my understanding and I don't spend anytime praying they won't turn off my lights, I just pay the bill when its due.
My life is whatever I create in it...if I don't like it, I stop doing whatever it is to make it happen, and create something new.
I will take responsibility for being a creator son of God, and spend less time suffering because I search for the cause of my discomfort with my creation rather than praying for a God to make the effects of my creation go away.
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| Jul 28 @ 5:43 PM |
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sail_dancer
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Yes, thor, it is called divine inspiration and makes a lot more sense 
Peace
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| Jul 28 @ 7:34 PM |
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soccerchick315
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Isn't it amazing Beverice, How those who wish to belittle all that is Holy and of God are the first ones to seek answers when the sky falls in? It will be no different for this bunch then It will for many others when their day comes. They have no excuses they have spat in the face of every word of caution. There are dreams given by God. Rather they are excepted by man is man's choice. It's just another laugh in the face of truth. They will face the puke they spill one day and know they spat in the face of Gods warning and it will be too late. By their own choice they choose there fate. There is no one to blame but ourselves when we choose wrongly. They have done so billigerently and now their payday is coming. They have chosen and made very clear where they stand on the subject of God. Let them choke on their own vomit. They as my father would say are the willing lost.
They are given over to a reprobate mind. They have been given truth with love and rejected it. Do not cast your pearls before these swine any longer They will beg for mercy and will not find it. It will be too late. The day for choose you this day for them is gone. Put your efforts to work on fallow ground these are full of thorns and stones. "He that hath an ear let him hear what the spirit sayeth to the church"
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| Jul 28 @ 7:55 PM |
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sail_dancer
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Hi Hunt,
Using your daughter's profile again I see.
Peace
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| Jul 28 @ 8:07 PM |
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bevrice
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Amen, soccer, I would leave, but my church's service yesterday was about not letting one single more person be stolen away by false religions, unbelief. It was about taking a stand for them, making sure the truth was before them that they were not decieved. It was about CARING. So, while, I would love to leave this forum again, like I have done so many times before. I have to stay for those who are searching. This is a very spiritual time and people are looking for the spiritual.
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| Jul 28 @ 8:09 PM |
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BandTMom
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| Jul 28 @ 8:38 PM |
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hammertime
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soccerchick has some very interesting dreams. I'm love the hear about the hallucinations. Is she up to those yet? I guess they can happen without notice. I'm sure Bev can teach her how and Hunt certainly can. Really all that dogma and religiosity are nothing but dreams and delusions. The day they keep talking about should be day they wake up from their delusions and see the shock of reality. Its sad they can't live a real and authentic life but perhaps they are better off dreaming away.
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| Jul 28 @ 9:03 PM |
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LaughTillYaPuke
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Isn't it amazing Beverice, How those who wish to belittle all that is Holy and of God are the first ones to seek answers when the sky falls in?
That's rich...you're 19 years old...when have you even had ANY experience in falling skies?
Get back to me in your thirties. Or just get underneath ME. {you look incredibly hot today}
Do not cast your pearls before these swine any longer They will beg for mercy and will not find it. It will be too late.
necklace or backpack? your choice...
From Goose God
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| Jul 28 @ 9:04 PM |
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Jankia
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Thor- So called astral travel and out of the body experiences have been associated with an experience called sleep paralysis Have you ever studied how the aboriginies train there people-hunters how to leave their bodies.If you have would that method also be considered sleep paralysis?
If I remember correctly they tie the person down and blindfold him.
Then other members of there group sit around him in a circle and take turns poking him with a stick.This is after his having been left alone in the wilderness for more then a year and he isnt untied until he can correctly tell which person poked him with that stick...while he cannot see them.
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| Jul 28 @ 9:24 PM |
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alivenwell351
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This is a very spiritual time and people are looking for the spiritual.
No Bev...in these hard times people are either knuckling down and doing the best they can for themselves, or they are looking for the govt. to bail them out...
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| Jul 28 @ 10:36 PM |
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bevrice
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alive, more people are seeking the spiritual than before. Maybe you aren't, but more and more people are looking for something to fill that void inside that only God can fill. They try to fill it with whatever they can find that they think suits them.
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| Jul 28 @ 10:37 PM |
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bevrice
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Wow, just realized what you said, thor. You had a dream that was in another language, one you don't speak?
I didn't know that, Jankia, very interesting. Thank you.
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hammertime
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If I remember correctly they tie the person down and blindfold him.
Then other members of there group sit around him in a circle and take turns poking him with a stick.This is after his having been left alone in the wilderness for more then a year and he isnt untied until he can correctly tell which person poked him with that stick...while he cannot see them.
That sounds like fun. You go first.
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| Jul 29 @ 8:51 AM |
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yashaenka
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I will take responsibility for being a creator son of God, and spend less time suffering because I search for the cause of my discomfort with my creation rather than praying for a God to make the effects of my creation go away. But Uncrazy that is a rational way of accepting responsibility fort your own actions and for me is very Zen like as you see the reality of what your senses are exposed to.
Those that dwell in the realm of dreams and ask some God to make things better are hiding from themselves and never take responsibility unto themselves as their God is a more convenient scape goat.
The term Denial comes to mind....
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| Jul 29 @ 11:49 AM |
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Thor1960303
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Have you ever studied how the aboriginies train there people-hunters how to leave their bodies.If you have would that method also be considered sleep paralysis?
If I remember correctly they tie the person down and blindfold him.
Then other members of there group sit around him in a circle and take turns poking him with a stick.This is after his having been left alone in the wilderness for more then a year and he isnt untied until he can correctly tell which person poked him with that stick...while he cannot see them.
That's probably not sleep paralysis, it's a hallucination brought about by a certain amount of sensory deprivation. It can be duplicated in a tank filled with a saline solution that allows a person to float, their other senses being cut off as well so they feel a sense of disconnection. The mind creates these images when other senses are deprived. Other senses and brain activity become sharpened which would explain how the person is able to ID the others doing the stick poking.
It's a phenomena of the brain, no spirits, ghosties or anything that brings about twilight zone music.
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| Jul 29 @ 12:14 PM |
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Thor1960303
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it is called divine inspiration and makes a lot more sense
I said "interpreted AS divine inspiration", I didn't say it was divine inspiration.
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