| Aug 12 @ 4:52 PM |
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LanceVarden7
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I keep hearing about "Baby Christians" and how they need mentored by Bev so they don't fall astray, and instead follow her religous practices.
I just don't know who these "Baby Christians" are.
Does anyone here consider themselves a "Baby Christain" in need of her guidance? Does anyone know of anyone else who fits that model?
I just wonder if there are such people present, or if it is just something she conjured up to justify her behavior.
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| Aug 12 @ 4:58 PM |
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bevrice
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Lance, YOU are one of them.
Have you sought the baptism of the Holy Spirit, yet, with evidences, generally tongues?
The ones who haven't are the ones that Paul speaks of, but chastises, for these are ones that should have already done that and grown.
Most baby Christians are simply NEW Christians and have not had time to grow yet.
You have no idea who reads these threads, lance. Most of them are afraid of you guys.
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| Aug 12 @ 4:58 PM |
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sail_dancer
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"Baby Christians"?
Could she mean "Sheeplettes"?
Peace
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| Aug 12 @ 5:00 PM |
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bevrice
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Sail, I think at one time, YOU were one of them and look where you are now. This is exactly what I am talking about.
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| Aug 12 @ 5:01 PM |
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hammertime
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Lots of baby Christians get baptized. They're usually too young to know whats going on. Its not as a bad for jewish kids who get their tips snipped off in a circumcision called metzizah bi peh or metzitzah b'peh. That involves a mohel using his mouth to suction blood from the wound after the foreskin is removed. Hasidic and ultra-Orthodox Jews do this. I think I'd rather have the water thrown on my face instead. Maybe Bev should think of a new profession.
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| Aug 12 @ 5:03 PM |
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LanceVarden7
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Lance, YOU are one of them.
Most baby Christians are simply NEW Christians and have not had time to grow yet. I have been a Christain for 42 years. I have grown and am still growing. There was a time when I would listen to somelike you and say to myself "Well she claims to be Christain, she must know what she is talking about" but thankfully, I have grown beyond that.
You have no idea who reads these threads, lance. Most of them are afraid of you guys. So where are these slews of people who are afraid of us? Are they hidden away somewhere with the "Baby Christians"?
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| Aug 12 @ 5:03 PM |
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sail_dancer
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Sail, I think at one time, YOU were one of them and look where you are now. This is exactly what I am talking about. Like I told you before, I have not followed christianity and its sick dogma for 40 years now.
I was never a sheeple, that is why I was able to break away from the delusion of christianity.
Peace
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| Aug 12 @ 5:04 PM |
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j_goose
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with evidences, generally tongues
what in the world does oral sex have to do with anything...??
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| Aug 12 @ 5:09 PM |
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BandTMom
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Lance, YOU are one of them.
Could you be any more judgmental?
Lance is 10 times stronger in his faith than many so-called "strong" Christians here or anywhere I've seen.
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| Aug 12 @ 6:54 PM |
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Loreli
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I am not a "baby Christian."
I am a learning one. Because I moved away from the church I was part of, and choose to believe God wishes all to do their best in mind, body and spirit.
I fail often, but it teaches me new ways of looking at things.
I do good when I can. I have raised good children. Who will pass good onto their children.
THAT we believe is far more important than HOW we do it.
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| Aug 12 @ 7:14 PM |
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16knots
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All the baby Christians are hiding from this evil blood cult.
Murder, Rape, and Pillage at Jabesh-gilead
"So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children. "This is what you are to do," they said. "Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin." Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan."
"The Israelite assembly sent a peace delegation to the little remnant of Benjamin who were living at the rock of Rimmon. Then the men of Benjamin returned to their homes, and the four hundred women of Jabesh-gilead who were spared were given to them as wives. But there were not enough women for all of them. The people felt sorry for Benjamin because the LORD had left this gap in the tribes of Israel. So the Israelite leaders asked, "How can we find wives for the few who remain, since all the women of the tribe of Benjamin are dead? There must be heirs for the survivors so that an entire tribe of Israel will not be lost forever. But we cannot give them our own daughters in marriage because we have sworn with a solemn oath that anyone who does this will fall under God's curse."
"Then they thought of the annual festival of the LORD held in Shiloh, between Lebonah and Bethel, along the east side of the road that goes from Bethel to Shechem. They told the men of Benjamin who still needed wives, "Go and hide in the vineyards. When the women of Shiloh come out for their dances, rush out from the vineyards, and each of you can take one of them home to be your wife! And when their fathers and brothers come to us in protest, we will tell them, 'Please be understanding. Let them have your daughters, for we didn't find enough wives for them when we destroyed Jabesh-gilead. And you are not guilty of breaking the vow since you did not give your daughters in marriage to them.'" So the men of Benjamin did as they were told. They kidnapped the women who took part in the celebration and carried them off to the land of their own inheritance. Then they rebuilt their towns and lived in them. So the assembly of Israel departed by tribes and families, and they returned to their own homes." (Judges 21:10-24 NLT)
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| Aug 12 @ 7:19 PM |
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16knots
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Damn God killed this baby too:
"Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your wives (plural) while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight. You have done this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the presence of all Israel, and with the sun looking down.'"
Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against the Lord." Nathan answered David: "The Lord on his part has forgiven your sin: you shall not die. But since you have utterly spurned the Lord by this deed, the child born to you must surely die." (The child dies seven days later.) 2 Samuel 12:11-14 NAB
So all the Christians support this evil crap in their beliefs.... 
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| Aug 12 @ 7:41 PM |
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j_goose
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26 dollars is as high as I'll go.
OOPS! I thought this thread said "EBay Christians"
Sorry lance....
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| Aug 12 @ 8:26 PM |
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uncrazy
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On the meaning of "babe", stylized as "baby" in the retelling and advancing publications...I can offer a meaning more closely aligned with the temple structure.
Some know its origins...some have never been told... I will post if I can be useful.
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| Aug 12 @ 9:17 PM |
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sail_dancer
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I'm interested uncrazy.
Post away!
Peace
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| Aug 12 @ 9:40 PM |
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Thor1960303
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Have you sought the baptism of the Holy Spirit, yet, with evidences, generally tongues?
Let me get this straight, Bev. Someone babbling in an incoprehensible language with no grammar or syntax is evidence this experience you speak of is real?
I can create a fake language and babble with the best of them, wtf does that prove?
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| Aug 12 @ 11:18 PM |
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uncrazy
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Sail,
Some/a lot of my post get lengthy and might bore...been thinking of cutting out personal details, or mental links that come up during the typing.
We know that the Bar Mitzvah happened around age 12, the child becomes responsible to obey the law and is welcomed into the community. Here is is considered a grade18.
Then formal temple education begins, each year on his birthday he is promoted a grade if qualified after testing...it was a school. After five years of temple school he complete elementary schooling and sits at grade13
From here he progresses up to grades 10, then 9, where he was a postulant, a person being evaluated for later priesthood upon Initiation in grade7.
Grades 10 and 9 are significant, at nine he is baptized, then proceeds to Novice, then Initiate, the journey into priesthood and celibate living within monstic communities.
It is at the grades 10 and 9, they were called "babes" in temple, like a slang without demeaning. They were not called "babes" before reaching nor after completing 10/9, only during it. If they decided not to proceed to the path of initiation, the could stop temple school and marry, which would make them a sinner, another Jewish word without the derogatory christian meaning. At nine years of temple school they would be 20/21 years old.
Proceeding into celibacy would let them become "saints". Women in this system would be called virgins.
This is an example that shows how our Jewish history was forgotten and what the church offered in its effort to provide what the writers of the gospel meant. It was a simple task for Paul to use this Jewish analogy to convey the idea of "babes in anointing"(the root meaning of Chirst being "anointed")
Jesus was blowing away the Jewish priest lines by blood and using ordination of gentiles with knowledge and zeal to create priests to serve the people.
After 2000 years we can see how what this all means has been further corrupted in the telling from the pulpits by the trained clergy.
The high priest was grade0, or taw. It should be starting to clear why this information is considered drivel...it is the history of the christian church, and the Baptism of the Spirit somehow is denied access to this history. maybe that is the reason for today's miracle, it trumped action on other threads, not purposefully though...fear expresses in strange ways. I picked fear becaused yesterday we were all told we were afraid.
We might expect anger expressing tomorrow.
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| Aug 12 @ 11:39 PM |
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SunBabe
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I'm just going to sneak in here for a second because I want to digest more of what Uncrazy presented. I find the history facinating and I've alway loved putting the Bible "stories" into the context of the time...though I also understand the "lessons" they represent are timeless.
Anyway, my stomach lurches every time I read that phrase "baby Christians". How utterly condecending!! How RUDE!   It's a nasty slap in the face of lifelong Christians, people who are perfectly secure in their beliefs and convictions. And while everyone should grow and expand their minds in their lifetime, that in no way should infer they are "babies". 
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| Aug 12 @ 11:52 PM |
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ServantOfChrist2
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Why do so many people think that the term baby-Christian is some sort of slur?
It is absolutely not a slur.
When a mother gives birth to a child, must the baby be kept out of the light?? Kept away from the gaze of anyone not-in-the-family?
Of course not. That's silly. 
Baby-Christian is only a descriptive term indicating that the individual bearing the name is in their infancy of learning the ways of Christ.
There is absolutely nothing shameful about it.
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| Aug 13 @ 12:06 AM |
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ServantOfChrist2
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Lance, that is below you my friend.
For several years I considered myself to be a baby-Christian. And I know many people who either have been, or still are baby-Christians.
But knowing Bev has no relationship to the term.
Just as in regular, un-Christian-life, an infant is taught different things about the world; so it is with a baby-Christian learning the ways of Jesus Christ.
While it seems evident that some do not need any education or training in anything at all to become expert in some fields, not everyone has been born with such complete knowledge.
It's only a descriptive term. (Created long-long-ago, and far-far-away I'm sure. )
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