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bevrice
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Now, this is food for thought. When Buddha lived and taught what he did, I think he probably gave you the best that he, as a man, could give you, because true salvation and Jesus had not come to reconcile man with God.
Don't you think, that if Buddha had been alive and known Jesus that he might have become a disciple, as well?
Do you think maybe, just maybe, because he was wise, he would have told you that Jesus was the way? I think he would have.
Buddha and his beliefs, like the laws of the Old Testament, I believe, were just meant to fill in and help man to love and be as good as they could, until Jesus came to redeem them.
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| Aug 20 @ 8:30 AM |
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hammertime
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When Buddha lived and taught what he did At least the guy actually lived. You are saying that aren't you?
Don't you think, that if Buddha had been alive and known Jesus that he might have become a disciple, as well? When you say "Don't you think" you really mean it. But yes, Jesus would no doubt have been a disciple and probably was knowing what Buddha's taught about love and compassion. Buddha taught things of this world cause suffering. Don't Christians say they are in this world but not of it? Thats from the Buddha. Of course Jesus, if he lived at all, which we have no record of, would only be repeating what was already known.
Jesus couldn't even redeem himself which is why he committed suicide by Roman. You know, like suicide by cop, suicide by Roman. Get it? He had no historical existence other than fulfilling the role of solar deity as previous man god myths have always down. Jesus was a new upgraded model. Another problem was at the time of Jesus. there was no Nazareth. Kind of throws a monkey wrench into that fairytale.
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| Aug 20 @ 8:47 AM |
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bevrice
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Hmmm, even the dahli called Jesus a great great prophet and said he could never be compared to being as good, paraphrased, hammer.
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| Aug 20 @ 8:54 AM |
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hammertime
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Whats a dahli?
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| Aug 20 @ 9:16 AM |
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bevrice
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Go find out for yourself, hammer.
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| Aug 20 @ 9:17 AM |
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hammertime
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You don't know?
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| Aug 20 @ 9:22 AM |
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hammertime
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I found it
>>>here<<<
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| Aug 20 @ 9:29 AM |
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bevrice
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I ignore your garbage, hammer.
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| Aug 20 @ 9:47 AM |
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| Aug 20 @ 9:53 AM |
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| Aug 20 @ 9:58 AM |
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bevrice
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Knots, did you consider what I posted. If what I am saying is right, then you are in worse shape than the Jews, for at least God has a covenant with THEM.
Now, what if, just if, Buddha was God's way of getting through to people before the advent of Jesus so they could live in love and peace, at least, until Jesus came to save them and reconcile them with God, until they could be taught of Jesus and salvation?
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| Aug 20 @ 10:03 AM |
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bevrice
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So, now, you are making fun of Buddhism, hammer with your picture. That is what the Dahli Lama is? You know there are many different ways to spell that name?
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| Aug 20 @ 10:06 AM |
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Angel54214
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This site was highly recommended before concerning the "Jesus Myth." This same sight details also the "Buddha Myth." Enjoy!
http://www.truthbeknown.com/buddha.htm
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| Aug 20 @ 10:07 AM |
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hammertime
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| Aug 20 @ 10:10 AM |
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16knots
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Now, this is food for thought. When Buddha lived and taught what he did, I think he probably gave you the best that he, as a man, could give you, because true salvation and Jesus had not come to reconcile man with God.
It cant be food for thought because you know so little about Buddhism, in fact you know really nothing at all as your posts suggests.
"The Buddha" means the "Enlighten One" and that states that he knew all. All the little question people try to find about their life, their existence and about the cosmos as a whole he discovered. Not only discovered buy discovered absolutely.
Their is no contradiction between what he discovered and what other beings can discover for themselves. What he did discover is a truth for all. When a man spends his life living in a dark cave too frightened to leave it and another man steps out and says, "hey, Ive discovered truth! We dont exist in a cave but the world outside has day light, sunshine, night time and beautidul stars." Now, any man wishing to step out of the cave will discover the same truth as the first man that stepped out.
Christianity is like the man in the cave to frightened to step out to the truths.
Don't you think, that if Buddha had been alive and known Jesus that he might have become a disciple, as well?
Not at all. Buddha and jesus would certainly respect each other but there shouldnt be any doubt that Jesus would have been a disciple of "The Buddha". Why?Because "The Buddha" is exactly that.
Buddhahood is for anyone. Any one can become Enlightened. Personally I think Jesus existed and I do believe he was a Buddhist. But it doesnt really matter. We are ALL Buddhists. We all seek enlightenment whether we wishfully admit it or not.
Do you think maybe, just maybe, because he was wise, he would have told you that Jesus was the way? I think he would have.
Buddha would not have said that. The buddha taught, that not even his "way" should be followed. Each of us has to find the truths for ourselves. No one else can do that for us. Buddha, in his wisdom would have said, "dont follow me just because I say so, follow your own path". If that is with a man called jesus then that is fine.
Buddha and his beliefs, like the laws of the Old Testament, I believe, were just meant to fill in and help man to love and be as good as they could, until Jesus came to redeem them.
These are not the same laws. They are different in many respect. The Commandments are much at fault and gives little lee way to wisdom. Buddha doesnt have beliefs. They are truths. Truths that we can find for ourselves if we wish too.
Believing in something isnt the same as realiztion of truths. Absolute truths. These are undeniable.
Christianity will argue day in and day out, year in and year out because they do not have absolute truths. In Buddhism the absolute truths are there and can not be argued about because they exist as the absolute.
One solid and true step in Buddhism is worth a life times walking in Christianity. When looking back we can see the faults of mans conceptualisations from his Egotistical ordinary nature.
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Let's make Love in the R & S forums,not war 
   
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| Aug 20 @ 10:15 AM |
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hammertime
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Numbers 22
28 And the LORD opened the mouth of the ass, and she said unto Balaam, What have I done unto thee, that thou hast smitten me these three times? 29 And Balaam said unto the ass, Because thou hast mocked me: I would there were a sword in mine hand, for now would I kill thee. 30 And the ass said unto Balaam, Am not I thine ass, upon which thou hast ridden ever since I was thine unto this day? was I ever wont to do so unto thee? And he said, Nay.
(___*___) Listen when your ASS TALKS to you Bev 
Bababbbleleell gobbblblbblblg Pft pft....ZZzeeemMMMMmmMM
Mooo Moooo Arf Arf
Bark.... groww........
*fart* Opps 
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| Aug 20 @ 10:16 AM |
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16knots
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Knots, did you consider what I posted. If what I am saying is right, then you are in worse shape than the Jews, for at least God has a covenant with THEM.
yes, thank you I have just replied.
This type of thinking that you have is based on your knowledges, your beliefs. In the first instance they are flawed from the start. Simply due to the lack of knowing anything of Buddhism.
Now, what if, just if, Buddha was God's way of getting through to people before the advent of Jesus so they could live in love and peace, at least, until Jesus came to save them and reconcile them with God, until they could be taught of Jesus and salvation?
Very fanciful indeed. In the Mahayana tradition of Buddhism, the thought of God is impossible if one exists. For anyone trying to consider what god does is causing their own "reality" where god will exist for them but in absolute truth looking at this person we would see a cloud of delusion about them. their mind isnt open, aware and receptive to truth. It is as if the air around them is still, foggy and they are unable to blow this fog away with the truth.
Angel:
Your website lacks all common knowledges on buddhism as well as yourself otherwise you would not have posted the link.
It is always better to question directly your concerns then to "suggest" them.
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| Aug 20 @ 10:25 AM |
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bevrice
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You are not being logical, knots.
Jesus IS the way, the light and the truth.
Now, I don't think that God could have come through to buddha as God, considering Buddhas root thinking, but I think He could have given him spiritual truths and buddha not knowing where they came from, didn't know who he had found.
Now, this more than explains why they coincide with the teachings of Jesus, because the source was the same. Now, then, I think this might point to your need of Jesus to complete your "enlightenment."
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| Aug 20 @ 10:34 AM |
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You are not being logical, knots.
Jesus IS the way, the light and the truth.
If you dont like the answers why bother posting the questions! Again it is your closed mindedness, the fog about you. Only a seeking mind, an aware mind can seek the answers and the truths.
Now, I don't think that God could have come through to buddha as God, considering Buddhas root thinking, but I think He could have given him spiritual truths and buddha not knowing where they came from, didn't know who he had found.
bev, go study Buddhism for a year or two and get back to me. Your shots in the dark are killing me!!!!
Now, this more than explains why they coincide with the teachings of Jesus, because the source was the same.
I have no doubt if Jesus existed and based on little knowledges in history we have on him it does seem jesus was an Enlightened Being, a Buddha.
Now, then, I think this might point to your need of Jesus to complete your "enlightenment."
A Buddha and all Buddhas, Bodhisattvas all teach the same thing and so would have Jesus since he was an enlightened being...... seek your own salvation. Buddhas can only but point the way but it is for you to take the first step.
No one in existence can give you enlightenment because only YOU can realise the truth. Bev, sit around all day long throughout your life and it isnt going to bring you to the truth if you say, "I belive in him so he will give me my salvation". YOU have to come to realiation to the truths. No other way. YOUR own self-reliance brings you your happiness and your own dispare.
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