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bevrice
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RETURNING GOOD FOR EVIL:
Jesus -- "But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also." "Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;" Forgive "Until seventy times seven."
Buddha, Hindu Saviour, 500 B.C. -- "Overcome evil with good."
Loatze, Chinese philosopher, 500 B.C. -- "Recompense injury with kindness. Return love for great hatred."
Socrates, 300 B.C. -- "It is not permitted to return evil for evil."
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horizon000
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To be or not to be - Shakesphere.
To do is to be as to be is to do - Socrates.
Do be do be do - Sinatra.
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| Aug 22 @ 12:12 PM |
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hammertime
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I am that I am - God
I yam what I yam - Popeye
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horizon000
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And God said, 'Let there be light' and there was light, but the Electricity Board said he would have to wait until Thursday to be connected.
-- Spike Milligan
God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh.
-- Voltaire
It may be that our role on this planet is not to worship God, but to create him.
-- Arthur C. Clarke
[Edited on 8/22/2008 12:22 PM]
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LanceVarden7
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Jesus -- "But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also." "Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;" Forgive "Until seventy times seven." That is a tall order. You have done alot of smiting
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Blondino
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You will know them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thorns, or figs from thistles? So, every sound tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears evil fruit. A sound tree cannot bear evil fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus you will know them by their fruits.
Christianity. Matthew 7.16-20
If you, Rahula, are desirous of doing a deed with the body, you should reflect on that deed of your body, thus: "That deed that I am desirous of doing with the body is a deed of my body that might conduce to the harm of self and that might conduce to the harm of others and that might conduce to the harm of both; this deed of body is unskilled, its yield is anguish, its result is anguish." If you, Rahula, reflecting thus, should find it so, a deed of body like this, Rahula, is certainly not to be done by you.
[B]. Buddhism. Majjhima Nikaya i.415, Ambalatthika-Rahulovada Sutta[/B]
The five sources of happiness: the first is long life; the second, riches; the third soundness of body and serenity of mind; the fourth, love of virtue; the fifth is an end crowning the life. Of the six extreme evils, the first is misfortune shortening the life; the second, sickness; the third, distress of mind; the fourth, poverty; the fifth, wickedness; the sixth, weakness.
. Confucianism. Book of History 5.4.9
God's messenger said, "Do you know the thing which most commonly brings people into Paradise? It is fear to God and good character. Do you know what most commonly brings people into hell? It is the two hollow things: the mouth and the private parts."
Islam. Hadith of Tirmidhi and Ibn Majah
How can activity be good or wicked? That which is performed with good intention is good; and that which is performed with evil intention is wicked.... That which purifies the soul or by which the soul is purified, is merit--producing a happy feeling. That which keeps the soul away from good is demerit--producing an unhappy feeling.
Jainism. Pujyapada, Sarvarthasiddhi 6.3
Is there a "righteous man" who is good and a righteous man who is not good? He who is good to Heaven and good to man, he is a righteous man who is good; good to Heaven but not good to man, that is a righteous man who is evil... But a wicked man who is evil to Heaven and evil to man, he is a wicked man who is evil; he who is evil to Heaven but not evil to man, that is a wicked man who is not evil.
Judaism. Talmud, Kiddushin 40a
"All who commit crimes, robbing, stealing, practicing villainy and treachery, and who kill men or violently assault them to take their property, being reckless and fearless of death--these are abhorred by all." The king says, "O Feng, such great criminals are greatly abhorred, and how much more detestable are the unfilial and unbrotherly--as the son who does not reverently discharge his duty to his father, but greatly wounds his father's heart, and the father who can no longer love his son, but hates him; as the younger brother who does not think of the manifest will of Heaven, and refuses to respect his elder brother, and the elder brother who does not think of the toil of their parents in bringing up their children, and is very unfriendly to his junior. If we who are charged with government do not treat parties who proceed to such wickedness as offenders, the laws of our nature given by Heaven to our people will be thrown into great disorder and destroyed. You must resolve to deal speedily with such according to the penal laws of King Wen, punishing them severely and not pardoning."
Confucianism. Book of History 5.9
Whosoever seeks, by whatever means, merely the happiness of cyclic existence for personal ends, he is to be understood as a mean person.
Whosoever reverses deeds done from base motives and turns back the happiness of worldly pleasures for the sake of his own liberation, that person is called middling.
Whosoever wishes to eliminate completely the sufferings of others through his own sufferings, that is the excellent person.
Buddhism. Bodhipathapradipa
God's definition of goodness is total giving, total service, and absolute unselfishness. We are to live for others. You live for others and others live for you. God lives for man and man lives for God. The husband lives for his wife and the wife lives for her husband. This is goodness. And here unity, harmony, and prosperity abound.
Evil is the emergence of selfishness into this world. God's principle of unselfish giving was twisted into an ungodly principle of selfish taking. The ungodly position of desiring to be served rather than to serve was thereby established. The origin of evil is Satan. He was in the position to serve God, but instead he posed as another god and subjugated man for his own benefit.... His motivation was selfishness. Out of his selfishness comes the origin of evil and sin.
. Unification Church. Sun Myung Moon, 10-20-73
Evil and good are not equal, even though the abundance of evil may amaze you; so heed God, you men of wits, so that you may prosper!
Islam. Qur'an 5.100
Easily known is the progressive one; easily known the one who declines. He who loves Dhamma progresses, he who hates it declines.
Buddhism. Sutta Nipata 92
The things which men greatly desire are comprehended in meat and drink an
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Blondino
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That again which is virtue may, according to time and place, be sin. Thus appropriation of what belongs to others, untruth, and injury and killing, may, under special circumstances, become virtue.
Acts that are apparently evil, when undertaken from considerations connected with the gods, the scriptures, life itself, and the means by which life is sustained, produce consequences that are good.
. Hinduism. Mahabharata, Shanti Parva 37.11, 14
No creature shall be harmed for one's own sake, one's own enjoyment. All depends upon the purpose; not even a blade of grass shall be cut without a worthy purpose. What is called sin becomes a merit if it is done for a higher purpose, even as what is considered uplifting becomes a force for binding if done in disregard of the higher Truth. Rightly used, rightly directed, the very means of fall become the means for rise....
[In Tantric ritual] wine is not to be taken as wine nor flesh as flesh; nor is it permissible to partake in the ceremonies as a mere human animal ridden with greed and desire. The wine is the Shakti, the Divine Energy; flesh is the Shiva, the Divine Substance, and he who partakes is none other than Bhairava himself, the Divine Enjoyer. The bliss that arises when all these three are fused in the consciousness of the worshipper is real Release. Bliss is the intimate form of Brahman and it is there installed in each individual body; wine brings out, releases into manifestation this indwelling Bliss... and awakens the sense of godhood which unties the knots of life. To be otherwise, to do otherwise, is simply to be drunk.
Hinduism. Kularnava Tantra 5
And verily We shall try you until We know those of you who really strive and are steadfast, and until We test your record.
Islam. Qur'an 47.31
Once there lived a housewife named Vedehika who had a reputation for gentleness, modesty, and courtesy. She had a housemaid named Kali who was efficient and industrious and who managed her work well. Then it occurred to Kali the housemaid, "My mistress has a very good reputation; I wonder whether she is good by nature, or is good because my work, being well-managed, makes her surroundings pleasant. What if I were to test my mistress?"
The following morning Kali got up late. Then Vedehika shouted at her maid, "Hey, Kali!" "Yes, madam?" "Hey, what makes you get up late?" "Nothing in particular, madam." "Nothing in particular, eh, naughty maid, and you get up late?" And being angry and offended, she frowned.
Then it occurred to Kali, "Apparently, my mistress does have a temper inwardly, though she does not show it because my work is well-managed. What if I were to test her further?" Then she got up later. Thereupon Vedehika shouted at her maid, "Hey, Kali, why do you get up late?" "No particular reason, madam." "No particular reason, eh, and you are up late?" she angrily hurled at her words of indignation.
Then it occurred to Kali, "Apparently, my mistress does have a temper inwardly, though she does not show it because my work is well-managed. What if I were to test her still further?" She got up still later. Thereupon Vedehika shouted at her, "Hey, Kali, why do you get up late?" and she angrily took up the bolt of the door-bar and hit her on the head, cutting it. Thereupon Kali, with cut head and blood trickling down, denounced her mistress before the neighbors, saying, "Madam, look at the work of the gentle lady, madam, look at the action of the modest lady, madam, look at the action of the quiet lady. Why must she get angry and offended because I got up late and hit me, her only maid, cutting me on the head?" Thus the housewife lost her good reputation.
Analogously, brethren, a person here happens to be very gentle, very humble, and very quiet as long as unpleasant things do not touch him. It is only when unpleasant things happen to a person that it is known whether he is truly gentle, humble, and quiet.
Buddhism. Majjhima Nikaya i.123-24, Kakucapama Sutta
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bevrice
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Beautiful, blonde, thank you.
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| Aug 22 @ 1:27 PM |
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16knots
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Pity you dont understand it bev!
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| Aug 23 @ 1:29 PM |
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16knots
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Blondie  
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| Aug 23 @ 5:22 PM |
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Loreli
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I think it's simple.
Love.
Respect.
Can't keep track of it all.....
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sealacamp
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So, every sound tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears evil fruit.
You can't examine any fruit or trees otherwise you are judging. So says the MD ...
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| Aug 24 @ 9:27 AM |
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sail_dancer
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Peace
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| Aug 24 @ 9:52 AM |
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bevrice
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Lol, seal, you got it.
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| Aug 24 @ 10:17 AM |
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sail_dancer
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I guess Seal was talking in tongues since only Bev seems to understand what his post meant.
Peace
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Thor1960303
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He not busy being born is busy dyin'.
Bob Dylan
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| Aug 25 @ 5:08 AM |
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waterfire
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God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh.
-- Voltaire
Really good! 
I think it's simple.
Love.
Respect.
Yes we tend to make it NOT simple 
[Edited on 8/25/2008 5:17 AM]
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| Aug 26 @ 3:48 PM |
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16knots
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What.... respect fools?
What about the Christian fools impregnating their insidious beliefs into children????
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| Sep 14 @ 5:27 PM |
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16knots
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Guess, Christians cant answer this one 
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