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Thor1960303
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If Fundamentalist Christianity is the one true religion, then the Crusades were right. What should it matter if inocent people were killed and property destroyed if immortal souls were saved from damnation? If the Fundies are right, then the Inquisition, with all it's torture was a holy righteous act. What's a few hours or days of physical pain if a person's eternity is at stake? Witch burnings were right on and perhaps should be revived again for the 21st century, after all, if the witch repents before fire or smoke inhalation takes her, she's going to Heaven right?
Perhaps homosexuality should be a capital offense, it will rid the world of an abomination and give those godless queers a chance to repent. Maybe we should drop the constitution and allow torture, because if it brings about repentance, it's justified, right?
Maybe we ought to nuke those heathen Islamic countries, or better yet, use biological warfare on them so they can die slowly and have a chance at salvation. Of course ALL media and information should be censored so that only godly, Christian information would get through.
Either the Bible is true, or it's not, or like any other document, it contains some truths, but needs to be read objectively and through the eyes of modern man. If it's 100% true and innerrant as Fundies would have you believe, then why pussyfoot around? It seems like the Westborro Baptist Church is the only group that's actually doing the will of the Fundy's Jesus. Everyone else is either lukewarm or heathen.
Maybe along with teaching creationism, the Baptism of the Holy Spirit would be required in language arts classes so that children could learn to talk in tongues. Who needs proper English (or any other real language) when you can learn the talk of angels? Bev even said that linguistics experts were useless in this important part of spiritual development.
So now I'm ready for the reply about how us poor heathens just can't understand godly and spiritual things because we don't believe and how we're all going to be sorry one day. That's fine with me. I don't want to meet any of those good Christian saints that lived back in those dark times when they burned witches. I'll at least be in good company with folks like Bishop Spong and Richard Dawkins.
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| Aug 29 @ 7:33 AM |
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bevrice
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Thor, you are going by the Old Testament. When and where would the New Testament endorse that stuff? Our covenant with God is the New Testament.
Now, spong, gee, he will take you straight to hell right along with him. So you will take someone who endorses abortion as your great spiritual leader, thor?
The one that makes me laugh is that HE supports the Gay Christian movement, they DON'T support HIM. They hate him.
For all the good it will do you, you may as well decide to follow SPONGebob.
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| Aug 29 @ 9:26 AM |
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16knots
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The OT was too evil and God saw this and so hiding like an evil bastard he is sent someone else to do his dirty work in the NT:
"Do you suppose I came here to keep
peace on earth? I tell you not at all
- but division! For from now on ....
father will be divided against son and
son against father, mother against
daughter and daughter against mother,
daughter-in-law against mother-in-law
and mother-in-law against daughter-in-
law." (Luke 12: 51-53)
"If anyone comes to me and does not
hate his father and mother, wife and
children, brothers and sisters, yes,
and his own life also - he cannot be
my disciple." (Luke 14: 26-27)
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| Aug 29 @ 1:30 PM |
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Thor1960303
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Thor, you are going by the Old Testament. When and where would the New Testament endorse that stuff? Our covenant with God is the New Testament.
According to what they tried to indoctrinate me into coming up, the NT was supposed to fulfill the OT. The two books were supposed to be in perfect harmony, not one to replace the other.
The Crusades were led by people who believed the NT, Bev, the Inquisition tortured and killed not only suspected witches and heretics, but Jews as well who followed the OT, so what's your point?
Now, spong, gee, he will take you straight to hell right along with him. So you will take someone who endorses abortion as your great spiritual leader, thor?
I need no spiritual leader, I have an independent mind and spirit and the ability to distinguish shit from shinola, unlike you fundies. Spong happens to be a breath of fresh air in the Christian community. A departure from the primitive literal interpretation of scripture to the more accurate and positive allegorical interpretation. I may not agree with everything Spong says, but he certainly is an improvement over the Falwells,Dobsons,Hagees and Robertsons of the world. I hope Islam and Judaism have spiritual leaders that will follow suit. If that happens, there may be a chance for something resembling peace and sanity in the world, but then world peace is something that is a false doctrine to your belief. That's actually in your Bible and I've actually heard that preached. Morons like Hagee actually support an unprovoked invasion of Iran. Is this what you support, Bev?Is world peace a false doctrine?
For all the good it will do you, you may as well decide to follow SPONGebob.
Spongebob is every bit as real as your version of Jesus.
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| Aug 29 @ 1:44 PM |
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bevrice
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I can't stand hagee.
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| Aug 29 @ 1:49 PM |
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bevrice
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Now where do you see anything but what knots posted in the New Testament, thor, and he doesn't understand his verses?
The Catholic pope did the Crusades stuff, thor.
Well, when spongebob speaks to you deals with you about your spirit, you better run fast, thor. You had Christian parents, you were brought up in the Christian church. If you think your parents are not before God for you, you better think again, and, one day, God is going to reveal Himself to you, probably one day soon, Thor. I really can't see Him waiting much longer to do that, but we will see.
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| Aug 29 @ 1:53 PM |
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horizon000
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Well, when spongebob speaks to you deals with you about your spirit, you better run fast, thor
You speak to Spongebob too?
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| Aug 29 @ 1:54 PM |
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SunBabe
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So now Bev's a PROPHET! A "seer". You're about the 8th person she's made her "enlightened" predictions about, Thor. 
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| Aug 29 @ 2:01 PM |
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16knots
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Now where do you see anything but what knots posted in the New Testament, thor, and he doesn't understand his verses?
Are you saying the bible lies?
The Catholic pope did the Crusades stuff, thor.
Really? Expert on history too?
Well, when spongebob speaks to you deals with you about your spirit, you better run fast, thor. You had Christian parents, you were brought up in the Christian church. If you think your parents are not before God for you, you better think again, and, one day, God is going to reveal Himself to you, probably one day soon, Thor. I really can't see Him waiting much longer to do that, but we will see.
Breeding fear, taught by your bible of fear? Emanating your own personal fears to validate your religious comfort zone?
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| Aug 29 @ 2:05 PM |
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bevrice
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No, sun, that is biblical, I don't have to be a prophet. Jesus goes after His sheep that have strayed and brings them back to the flock. Thor was one of His sheep, and I think, so were you growing up.
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| Aug 29 @ 2:07 PM |
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16knots
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bev, you remind me of the wolf pac. Too afraid to be alone so you need others to validate your existence.
Fear driven.
What is it you fear?
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| Aug 29 @ 2:08 PM |
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SunBabe
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I was NEVER a "sheep"!!! I resented the hypocracy from the get-go. 
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| Aug 29 @ 2:10 PM |
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bevrice
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Sad, I had hope for you, sun.
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| Aug 29 @ 2:17 PM |
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bevrice
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Pope Urban II, he wanted to free the Holy Land and Jerusalem. 1096
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| Aug 29 @ 2:20 PM |
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SunBabe
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Sad, I had hope for you, sun.
Huh??? Hope for WHAT? I'm perfectly content and at peace with MY beliefs. There's no need for you to hope...because whatever your "hope" is, it'd be LESS than what I have now. ~duh~
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| Aug 29 @ 2:22 PM |
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bevrice
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Ok, sun.
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| Aug 29 @ 2:25 PM |
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SunBabe
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Is that capitulation? 
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| Aug 29 @ 2:26 PM |
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16knots
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Bev, I notice that you always shy away from the observation of fear about you.
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| Aug 29 @ 2:28 PM |
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horizon000
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Back on Topic.
It’s no wonder, with that kind of intense training and discipling, that those young people are ready to kill themselves for the cause of Islam. I wanna see young people who are as committed to the cause of Jesus Christ as the young people are to the cause of Islam. I wanna see them as radically laying down their lives for the Gospel as they are over in Pakistan and Israel and Palestine and all those different places…
This is a quote taken from the documentary "Jesus Camp". It is a Mike Moore style expose' on a Penecostal summer camp.
It seems that people actually believe the Fundie perspective.
Thor, you are going by the Old Testament. When and where would the New Testament endorse that stuff? Our covenant with God is the New Testament.
Here's a start....
Put to death therefore your members which are upon the earth: fornication, uncleanness, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry : Colossians 3.5 Then the lust, when it hath conceived, beareth sin: and the sin, when it is fullgrown, bringeth forth death : James 1.15. For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death Matthew 15.4. For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death : Mark 7.10. |
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| Aug 29 @ 2:36 PM |
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SunBabe
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Then the lust, when it hath conceived, beareth sin: and the sin, when it is fullgrown, bringeth forth death : James 1.15.
Is this where the concept of "kill the bastards" comes from?
Interesting...justification.
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