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ServantOfChrist2
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Posts: 1,278 civil discussion from all sides of a topic is encouraged. even disagreement can be done courteously.
please try to refrain from extraneous personal attack and also make the effort to respect the beliefs of others in your discussions.
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| Sep 3 @ 7:05 AM |
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Blondino
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make the effort to respect the beliefs of others in your discussions.
that goes for all of us 
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| Sep 3 @ 7:26 AM |
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hammertime
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I'm curious too so can you answer a rather simple question?
Religion : numbers of adherents.
Islam: 1.5 billion
Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist: 1.1 billion
Hinduism: 900 million
Chinese traditional religion: 394 million
Buddhism: 376 million
primal-indigenous: 300 million
African Traditional & Diasporic: 100 million
Sikhism: 23 million
Juche: 19 million
Spiritism: 15 million
Judaism: 14 million
Baha'i: 7 million
Jainism: 4.2 million
Shinto: 4 million
Cao Dai: 4 million
Zoroastrianism: 2.6 million
Tenrikyo: 2 million
Neo-Paganism: 1 million
Unitarian-Universalism: 800 thousand
Rastafarianism: 600 thousand
Scientology: 500 thousand
Will followers of all these other faiths and religions in the world suffer eternal torment?
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| Sep 3 @ 9:24 AM |
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ServantOfChrist2
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Blondino...I know what you're saying here.
But are you implying that in these posts, if someone disagrees with the opinion suggested by the original post-er, and THEIR tone is something other than friendly; then the original poster should merely shrug  , and accomodate the other peson's stance? Isn't this much akin to putting the cart before the horse??
I am not in favour of such a practice.
Historically here at MD, the tone of the conversation can be kept civil.
[Edited on 9/3/2008 10:29 AM]
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| Sep 3 @ 9:27 AM |
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hammertime
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SOC
Can you civilly answer the question?
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| Sep 3 @ 9:38 AM |
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Blondino
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But do are you implying that in these posts, if someone disagrees with the opinion suggested by the original post-er, and THEIR tone is something other than friendly; then the original poster should merely shrug , and accomodate the other peson's stance? Isn't this much akin to putting the cart before the horse??
no I am not .... I am merely saying we all need to respect others beliefs .. please dont put words in my mouth
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| Sep 3 @ 9:42 AM |
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yashaenka
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Blondino has a case as I think Islam here on this forum is the most often maligned religion.
Since Buddhism and philosophical Taoism are not a religion but a living philosophy they shake off comments about religion and since Zen is only a tool not a philosophy or a religion it simply ignores ignorant comments.
But in our current climate Islam is much maligned.
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| Sep 3 @ 9:44 AM |
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Blondino
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Blondino has a case as I think Islam here on this forum is the most often maligned religion.
Oh yes ....
exactly thanks .... but I am not attacked personally because I don't preach and tell everyone they are wrong ....
Also there is so much ignorance on the subject , one need patience ....
[Edited on 9/3/2008 9:48 AM]
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| Sep 3 @ 9:46 AM |
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sail_dancer
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SOC,
If you were truly curious, you would come out if your dogma box and participate in the discussions taking place with an open mind and provide something other than the bible to support your viewpoint.
Instead you hide in that box you feel so secure in and just complain when people disagree with the teachings your dogma spews.
As I have said before, you and your christian croonies are too touchy when it comes down to your beliefs. It is obvious that posts questioning your dogma make you feel insecure. They keep pounding on the walls of your box and you are affraid what will happen if such attacks ever breach your defenses.
You ask for people to be more civl with each other. Well I suggest that you also ask your croonies to stop with the personal attacks on non-christians. They reap what they sow!
I try to refrain from personal attacks, my attacks are on christian dogma and its teachings. I have and will continue to respond to personal attacks with the same.
When was the last time you actually participated in a discussion in these threads?
You pop into a thread, complain on how christians are treated then pop out and hide. You may at times make a short post agreeing to something one of your croonies posted, but you never add to the actual discussion taking place.
Grow up SOC.
Start participating in the discussions and build some credibility. You will be surprised at the respect you will earn from others by doing so.
Peace
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| Sep 3 @ 9:59 AM |
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yashaenka
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SOC is a man divided against himself he wants to walk in the steps of Jesus to emulate him, yet the bible itself speaks out against this.
Jesus, the Buddha and Lao Tzu all spoke out against this, they pointed within not without!
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| Sep 3 @ 10:07 AM |
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hammertime
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Yes, there are words "attributed" to Jesus saying the Kingdom is within. That means today, here and now, while you are alive. That does not mean after you're dead. I think SOC might be looking forward to a life after death. That would be a tearing experience.
But its not about that at all. Its about why people, many people embrace a sick ideology the fuels their petty prejudices and bigotry that only insults one's intelligence for a dead end belief system that has no evidence whatsoever. No validity, veracity or reality. Just curious.
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| Sep 3 @ 10:29 AM |
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yashaenka
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It is simple to understand in the Now moment of our reality. People going back to pre Egyptian times were ignorant and feared bringing attention to their selves by being independent. In our modern times just because most people in this country can read or write does not mean they can think.
Religion is a social event by joining a religion you become a part of that community. It is also as the Japanese are apt to do with a God for everything covering your bases, just in case.
Christianity is a child like belief system because you can sin all you want then simply pray by yourself and be forgiven....How marvelous a feel good belief system with a out. 
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| Sep 3 @ 10:43 AM |
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Loreli
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I've said it before...if certain person(s) were put on ignore, it would be less heated. I learn a lot by listening, and doing follow-up research. 
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| Sep 3 @ 10:46 AM |
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ServantOfChrist2
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"I try to refrain from personal attacks",
And yet from the same post, "Grow up."
Blondino, sorry, it was a sincere question. I was not trying to "put words in your mouth". I was truly asking for a clarification of your question. 
What do you suggest the OP do then if the placid tone of their words suddenly becomes hostile?
Do they then abandon their own stance, in order to appease to the voice of disagreement?
Honestly Blondino, I'm not trying to be a wise-ass here. 
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| Sep 3 @ 10:52 AM |
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Blondino
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But do are you implying that in these posts, if someone disagrees with the opinion suggested by the original post-er, and THEIR tone is something other than friendly; then the original poster should merely shrug , and accomodate the other peson's stance? Isn't this much akin to putting the cart before the horse??
What do you suggest the OP do then if the placid tone of their words suddenly becomes hostile?
Do they then abandon their own stance, in order to appease to the voice of disagreement?
No ..... you can hold your opinions and stance but do it in a way which does not ignite it into another battle ...
I was agreeing with you and hell I am bored with this now  If one person resorts to attack do you think everyone should ?
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| Sep 3 @ 10:55 AM |
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hammertime
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SOC
You're a weak sort of fellow who can't take real advice. Bishop Spong tells you to "GROW UP" too...
The Church doesn't like people to grow up.......When you're born again, you're still a child. People don't need to be born again, they need to grow up. They need to accept responsibility for themselves in the world
- Bishop Spong
So he's talking about you.
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| Sep 3 @ 12:10 PM |
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sail_dancer
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SOC,
All you have done with your response is support my statement that christians are too sensitive.
Since when is "grow up" a personal attack?
Peace
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| Sep 3 @ 12:14 PM |
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16knots
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SOC, its hostile to you because it rings home to truth.
Please listen to intelligent people here. They arent telling you anything that doesnt make absolute sense with a great deal of spiritual sense.
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| Sep 3 @ 12:23 PM |
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yashaenka
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Most Christians are sensitive as most have not done their own research of the Religion they have subscribed too resulting in embarrassment because they really do not wish to hear the truth.
It is all right to practice goodness and benevolence without emulating a historical figure who never wrote anything. All that is written about the Buddha or Jesus is hearsay. If you bought into the fables about them then you bought into something in other peoples words, not theirs.
We live in the present moment, from moment to moment, not in the past, nor the future they simply do not exist, it is just that simple.
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| Sep 3 @ 1:56 PM |
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Jankia
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Nice try to try and teach respect by using the rules of this forum SOC,but you have to remember,few know its meaning to begin with.
Your Christain beliefs are what makes you the person you are on here,but some members dont like who you are because of it.
So your instructed to "come out of your dogma box" and open your mind.Theres nothing wrong with having an open mind but when people have a problem with whats on your mind...your dogma.They dont want you in it and its yours.
Yours,free to say whatever is on it,respectfully in a public forum.
Other people are free to question what you say in anyway they choose.Unfortunatly they again know little about how its done in an adult fashion.
Everyone,I dont care who you are is sensitive about there lifestyle when its questioned disrespectfuly.
Especially when the untruths come out about you. It happens on here daily.How many times have you seen a thread you werent even in but your name is brought up?
Its a hilarious sometimes reading whats said about certain people just to agree with one of there "croonies" as was said above.Funny because many times whats agreed with contradicts their own beliefs or the claims they make themselves.
BTW- God is the truth to a Christian and like any other facet of our personal lives its a sensitive subject.Its also funny how a certain member that refers to you as insecure in your faith when its challenged lives on here to do just that.
Who is insecure,the fellow that never wavers from his faith...you,or the fellow that constantly challenges it that has wavered?
The same fellow that chastises Christains like you and I SOC for believing in it yet doesnt do the same for all people of the same faith.
Why?
They cannot refrain from extraneous personal attack
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