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Blondino
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 Came across this site .... so all those who point the finger at other religions ..... cast the first stone
Ever wondered what happened to ancient Greece? Its culture, beliefs, books? Ever thought about why so many Greek temples and buildings lie in ruins? The pages here will inform you about these and other
Things They Don't Tell You about Christianity
http://freetruth.50webs.org/Index.htm came across this site
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| Sep 6 @ 10:12 AM |
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16knots
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Good website Blony.
One onl;y has to see for themselves on holiday through Europe to see how churches were built.... from the destroyed ruins of former Temples. Some of Christianities best Cathedrals and churches are built from the ruins of Roman buildings.
Personally seen many.
The UK alone, churches were built right on top of our olde Pagan sites.
Christianity also stole many of the dates, celebrations and artifacts from the old cultures. hence why we see Yew trees, standing stones and the like around church yards. The left overs the Christians threw aside after they destroyed everything else.
Christianities actions are evil by its nature.
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| Sep 6 @ 10:19 AM |
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Blondino
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What is surprising is when fundamentalist Christians
think the Founding Fathers' faith had anything to do
with the Bible. Without exception, the faith of our
Founding Fathers was Deist and freemason and Unitarians
http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/tserve/eighteen/ekeyinfo/deism.htm
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/farrell_till/myth.html
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| Sep 6 @ 10:25 AM |
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hammertime
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Blondino
As a Muslim you show be aware of the dozens of Christian Crusades that murdered Muslims. Muslims came in 3rd in the 7th century and for quite a few hundred years they were attacked by Christians over Jerusalem which was owned by Muslims. These Crusaders didn't even come from Jerusalem but Europe to meddle in affairs that hand nothing to do with them but ONLY religion.
So we can establish very early on that Muslims and Jews lived peacefully together until the Christians came along who hated but Muslim and Jews.
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| Sep 6 @ 10:28 AM |
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hammertime
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Islam began as a peaceful religion....
800-1100 CE Baghdad was the intellectual center of the world. It was completely open to all travelers, Christians, Jews, non-believers, etc... Everyone....
Baghdad was the center of Engineering, Medicine, Biology, and Mathematics.
Our numerals called Arabic numerals.
Algebra -- Arabic word and created by Arabs.
Algorithm -- an Arabic word.
Arabs exploited the value of zero.
While constellations are named after Greek and Roman mythology, the majority of star names are Arabic.
Islam's downfall occurs after Imam Hamid al-Ghazali 1058 – 1111 CE
His philosophy is that mathematics and science are the work of the devil.
Intellect in Islam never recovers and so this is why we have such extremism today.
Today, Christian Fundamentalists are following the same kind anti-philosophy as Imam Hamid al-Ghazali but psycho Christians go way back to the beginning anyway as we know from the Crusades, Inquisitions, Blood Libels, etc...
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| Sep 6 @ 10:40 AM |
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Blondino
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Hammer pity there was not more of a mix to bring in other opinions .. Many have dipped their toe in and left
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/tribes.html
Justinian (another Christian "Great") – bankrupted the East by destroying the West!
Church of the Holy Wisdom – (Istanbul)
Justinian starved and robbed his troops and was merciless in his rapacious taxation – but he did build a big church.
Millions died as a result of his greed and vanity. Edward Gibbon estimated that the number of lives lost during the half century of his reign might have approached a hundred million. Procopius, in The Secret History, put the number even higher.
But then, we do have that big church ...
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| Sep 6 @ 10:41 AM |
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Jankia
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Came across this site .... so all those who point the finger at other religions ..... cast the first stone  First stone...second stone,why do what you just did and point a finger at one at all? Are you a Christain? If you are,would that be a Christain today or yesterday?
Without exception, the faith of our
Founding Fathers was Deist and freemason and Unitarians
Google it,there are exceptions.
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| Sep 6 @ 10:42 AM |
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yashaenka
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The Romans hijacked all the Gods of Greece then renamed then, that was followed by hijacking the Christian religion and then moving it to Rome. That was followed by the Roman legions spreading their version of Christianity to the far reaches of the empire, blessed by the Christian church.
Never met a institution that does not sooner or later turn inward on itself and Christianity is sure proof of that as a institution.
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| Sep 6 @ 10:59 AM |
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hammertime
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Never met a institution that does not sooner or later turn inward on itself and Christianity is sure proof of that as a institution. Sounds like Christianity has AIDS...eating itself from within. That's good. How can we speed up the process?
Bishop Spong has said if Christianity doesn't reform itself it should die.
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| Sep 6 @ 11:06 AM |
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sail_dancer
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Great Site !
There was no Nazareth in the first century CE. The Sermon on the Mount wasn't in the original Gospel manuscripts. And some early Christian sects never heard of Jesus' resurrection. The pages here will inform you about these and other Things They Don't Tell You about Christianity 
Peace
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| Sep 6 @ 11:13 AM |
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hammertime
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No there wasn't and you can find that information on Wiki too.
You have to wonder who actually "constructed" Christianity....
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| Sep 6 @ 11:25 AM |
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16knots
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So, basically, Christians lie like hell between their teeth...?
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| Sep 6 @ 8:22 PM |
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Angel54214
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so all those who point the finger at other religions ..... cast the first stone This statement above is such a shame...
There should be no disrespect in the history of all faith structures in their cultures. We can find anything we want on the net these days. So here are a couple I found...
NAZARETH DURING THE TIME OF JESUS
Eusebius wrote in his book, Onomasticon (c. 324-339), that Nazareth was about 15 milestones from Legio, that was an eastern journey from Legio towards Tabor. Legio (a.k.a. Lejjun, Caparcotna) was a large town encompassing an area near the Megiddo prison and the ruins of Kephar Otnai to the south of Tel Megiddo. On a modern map Nazareth was about 15 Roman miles from Legio by way of paved roads. The ancient road from Legio towards Afula and Nazareth during the time of Eusebius was north of the modern road to Afula and parallel to it for some distance. Roman Roads in Judea I, The Legio-Scythopolis Road, by Isaac and Roll, British Archaeological Reports (BAR), 1982, Oxford.
Bellarmino Bagatti reported that during construction of shops along the Tiberias road there were found artifacts from the Iron, Hellenistic, Roman, and Byzantine periods outside of the central Franciscan area. These finds were unpublished until Bagatti reported them Excavations in Nazareth, Bagatti, 1969, pg. 237. The Tiberias road passed by within about a couple of blocks to the north-east of the the Church of the Annunciation. A Franciscan guidebook indicated the Roman village of Nazareth was between the Church of Joseph and the Church of the Annunciation on a hill bounded by two valleys that are at this time partially filled in. Tombs were located outside of towns during Roman and Talmudic times. Hebrew tombs have been found to the N, S, and W of the ruins. Guide to the Holy Land, E. Hoade, Franciscan Printing Press, Jerusalem, 1976
Bagatti also reported Herodian lamp fragments from grottos and rock carved silos under the Franciscan churches and subterranean areas of church compounds. All types of pots, jugs, jars, plates, pans, bottles, etc. from the Roman and Byzantine periods were found on church grounds. There were also Hellenistic forms found on church grounds with photos of the Hellenistic- Roman series of lamps provided. Bagatti stated that the area was occupied before and after the first Jewish revolt (66-70 A.D.). Herodian lamps and lamp fragments were distinctive in style and used to date the area.
In 2002 Archaeologist Stanislao Loffreda published drawings of a rare type of lamp unique to first century Galilee. The lamp was found in Nazareth, Capernaum, Magdala, and Karm er-Ras (near Cana). The lamp was found in a datable strata in Capernaum. Capernaum yielded numerous Roman coins to the excavators, thus the strata and context there was more readily understood. This is additional evidence in support of the first century habitation of Nazareth. Also shows photos of the findings:
http://dqhall59.com/roman_era_nazareth.htm
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| Sep 6 @ 8:23 PM |
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Angel54214
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Contined from previous page...
Sometimes some Muslims pick up on a very outdated atheist critique that Nazareth didn't even exist in Jesus time. Here is a response from a resident of Nazareth, February 1998.
Perhaps the Muslim "scholar" referred to the fact that there was no Christian Church in Nazareth until Queen Helena, Constantine's mother came through Nazareth on her famous Holy Land trip in the fourth century and had the little basilica built over Mary's Well to mark the spot of the annunciation by the angel Gabriel. They were recently repairing the road in front of the Greek Orthodox Church of the Annunciation at Mary's Well in Nazareth. They discovered earlier ruins in the process, so now the whole plaza in front of the church is now an archeological site and you cannot drive a car through!
Down the road in the center of town the huge Basilica to the Annunciation built by the Roman Catholics preserves as its altar the first Century cave home of the Virgin Mary and its foundations are built over numerous cave dwellings. They have a little archeological museum with artifacts found during this period. Up the hill is the Church of Joseph built over caves which they claim were used as carpenter shops. Across the street the Sister's of Nazareth Hospice is built over an ancient first century or earlier grave with the huge rolling stone door still in place. A block away (modern term!) the Greek Catholic Church in the market is built next to the ancient synagogue that Jesus read the Torah in and the people took him out to throw him off the hill the city was built on.
So, anyone with eyes to see needs no proof of the existence of Nazareth in the first century and many centuries earlier! Nazareth was know as a city of refuge, tucked away in a mountain valley above the Valley of Meggido, or Esdraelon. It was a sleeply little hollow less than 2-3 miles from the metropolis Zippori where Mary's mother was from. Zippori has recently been excavated by Duke University and is now one of the largest archeological sites in the country which shows first century and earlier synagogues and homes with beautiful mosaics still intact.
There is debate about the location of Cana of Galilee, about five miles down the road from Nazareth toward Tiberias. The present Cana may not have been the site in the first Century. The site was moved in the early Christian centuries because the original site (Tel Kana) was unreacheable in the winter when the Natofa Valley flooded from the winter rains. The modern site does contain artifacts from the early Roman period. But the original site, which a local Muslim friend of mine took me too, is about three miles across the Natofa Valley in Tel Kana, which by the way, is also a network of cave homes.
I can assure you the local Muslim villagers who live at these sites and use many of the caves for their stables do not doubt their authenticity!
Dr. Ray Register (who lived in Nazareth for 25 years) http://www.answering-islam.org/Bible/nazareth.html
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16knots
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So what are you trying to say in just a few sentences without all the waffle Angel?
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| Sep 6 @ 11:20 PM |
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Thor1960303
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Bottom line: History is, was, and will always be written from the PoV of the victor. The story that gets out for mass consumption to be believed by the public is the one that will be told for the benefit of the ones who are funding the production costs. There's got to be something in it for them or the story would not get out. Objectivity is a dream.
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SunBabe
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I've been reading a book (mostly fiction) based upon some archelogical theories and discoveries. It puts a whole different perspective on a lot of the locations described in the Bible. It's also making me look around the net for other info -- mostly just "interesting" because I've never taken the Bible literally, especially the "facts" presented in the OT. (I feel they are still "way-after-the-fact-facts"  )
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| Sep 7 @ 12:10 PM |
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Angel54214
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It would have been nice if you posted the book name and author. 
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| Sep 7 @ 1:12 PM |
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hammertime
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I've been reading a book (mostly fiction) based upon some archelogical theories and discoveries. Oh, for a moment there I thought you were describing the bible.
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| Sep 7 @ 1:28 PM |
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Angel54214
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The Romans hijacked all the Gods of Greece then renamed then They also implimented the Egyptian gods...Greco-Roman Alexandria of the Ptolemaic dynasty comes to mind.
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