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bevrice
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Is God real? How can I know for sure that God is real?
http://www.gotquestions.org/is-God-real.html
We know that God is real because He has revealed Himself to us in three ways: in creation, in His Word, and in His Son, Jesus Christ.
The most basic proof of God’s existence is simply what He has made. “For the invisible things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead; so that [unbelievers] are without excuse” (Romans 1:20). “The heavens declare the glory of God / And the firmament sheweth His handiwork” (Psalm 19:1).
If I found a wristwatch in the middle of a field, I would not assume that it just “appeared” out of nowhere or that it had always existed. Based on the watch’s design, I would assume it had a designer. But I see far greater design and precision in the world around us. Our measurement of time is not based on wristwatches, but on God’s handiwork—the regular rotation of the earth (and the radioactive properties of the cesium-133 atom). The universe displays great design, and this argues for a Great Designer.
If I found an encoded message, I would seek out a cryptographer to help break the code. My assumption would be that there is an intelligent sender of the message, someone who created the code. How complex is the DNA “code” that we carry in every cell of our bodies? Does not the complexity and purpose of DNA argue for an Intelligent Writer of the code?
Not only has God made an intricate and finely tuned physical world, He has also instilled a sense of eternity in the heart of every person (Ecclesiastes 3:11). Mankind has an innate perception that there is more to life than meets the eye, that there is an existence higher than this earthly routine. Our sense of eternity manifests itself in at least two ways: law-making and worship.
Every civilization throughout history has valued certain moral laws, which are surprisingly similar from culture to culture. For example, the ideal of love is universally esteemed, while the act of lying is universally condemned. This common morality—this global understanding of right and wrong—points to a Supreme Moral Being who gave us such scruples.
In the same way, people all over the world, regardless of culture, have always cultivated a system of worship. The object of worship may vary, but the sense of a “higher power” is an undeniable part of being human. Our propensity to worship accords with the fact that God created us “in His own image” (Genesis 1:27).
God has also revealed Himself to us through His Word, the Bible. Throughout scripture, the existence of God is treated as a self-evident fact (Genesis 1:1; Exodus 3:14). When Benjamin Franklin wrote his Autobiography, he did not waste time trying to prove his own existence. Likewise, God does not spend much time proving His existence in His book. The life-changing nature of the Bible, its integrity, and the miracles which accompanied its writing should be enough to warrant a closer look.
The third way in which God revealed Himself is through His Son, Jesus Christ (John 14:6-11). “In the beginning was the Word: the Word was with God, and the Word was God. . . . And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us” (John 1:1, 14). In Jesus Christ “dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily” (Colossians 2:9).
In Jesus’ amazing life, He kept the entire Old Testament law perfectly and fulfilled the prophecies concerning the Messiah (Matthew 5:17). He performed countless acts of compassion and public miracles to authenticate His message and bear witness to His deity (John 21:24-25). Then, three days after His crucifixion, He rose from the dead, a fact affirmed by hundreds of eyewitnesses (1 Corinthians 15:6). The historical record abounds with “proof” of who Jesus is. As the Apostle Paul said, “This thing was not done in a corner” (Acts 26:26).
We realize that there will always be skeptics who have their own ideas concerning God and will read the evidence accordingly. And there will be some whom no amount of proof will convince (Psalm 14:1). It all comes down to faith (Hebrews 11:6).
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| Sep 11 @ 8:22 AM |
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We know that God is real because He has revealed Himself to us in three ways: in creation, in His Word, and in His Son, Jesus Christ. I didn't read more than this first paragraph, simply because I don't feel the need to. This line is only relevant IF you believe in him, it doesn't have any effect, and it doesn't constitute any kind of proof, to those that don't believe. And there's simply no point in arguing with me about it, because I don't believe, and it proves nothing to me and suggests nothing to show that he does exist.
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| Sep 11 @ 8:23 AM |
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hammertime
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No scripture proves anything because its all fable, myth and superstition. Only someone with an infected mind believes in any of it to be actual facts. Its just a story, nothing more. Its no better than Alice in Wonderland.
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| Sep 11 @ 8:25 AM |
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bevrice
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You should have read on.
Let's consider the order of the universe.
The balance of nature.
The human mind.
The fact that you have emotions, cry tears, laugh.
Water
Life itself.
The birth of a baby, and how they are made.
So, do you think those things just happened?
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| Sep 11 @ 8:28 AM |
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rough
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You should have read on.
Let's consider the order of the universe.
The balance of nature.
The human mind.
The fact that you have emotions, cry tears, laugh.
Water
Life itself.
The birth of a baby, and how they are made.
So, do you think those things just happened?
I don't have the answers Bevrice, and neither do you (despite what you believe).
You claim that God waved his magic wand or finger or whatever and the world was created, and I claim nothing because I am astute enough to realise that no-one will ever really know how the world was created.
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| Sep 11 @ 8:39 AM |
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sail_dancer
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We know that God is real because He has revealed Himself to us in three ways: in creation, in His Word, and in His Son, Jesus Christ.
God or "All there is and is not" or "The Force" might exist. I for one believe in some sort of higher being or force.
What you claim, however, is the concept of god associated with only one of many belief systems. The god(s) you worship is an evil and egotistical god, created by man in man's image and likeness (or should I say likemess).
You cannot substantiate anything within your post. You have built your beliefs on quicksand.
Peace
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| Sep 11 @ 8:48 AM |
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sail_dancer
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if there is no creator, no God, how could you explain those things? That is a very general statement that many different religions have claimed. There are over 3,000 different concepts of what you call god.
Statements like this do not substantiate the existence of the christian god described in christian dogma.
Ignorance! Ignorance! Ignorance!
Peace
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| Sep 11 @ 8:57 AM |
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yashaenka
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 he created the world in 7 days is that spacetime or real time?
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| Sep 11 @ 8:58 AM |
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bevrice
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GOD'S time, Yash.
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| Sep 11 @ 9:58 AM |
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yashaenka
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Bev please post a God watch so we know what time God's time is!
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| Sep 11 @ 6:58 PM |
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hammertime
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Hmmm, looks like God doesn't have to the time to post any of his own opinions. Oh well, maybe he's working overtime at his new job as a dishwasher and with the economy and all, lots of layoffs, he doesn't want to be out of a job.
But if God needed 7 days or 7000 years or more accurately 4.5 billion years to make the earth then God is forced to reside within time else all of it, everything would have instantly appeared out of no where. Too bad God didn't have that kind of power. After all he does need his rest and tires easily.
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| Sep 11 @ 7:05 PM |
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BandTMom
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Is God Real? How Can I Know for Sure?
Simple answer.....you can't.
Anyone can go on their feelings of beliefs, but when it comes down to brass tactics, no one can prove beyond a doubt that any god exists.
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| Sep 11 @ 7:06 PM |
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16knots
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Absolutely no proof God exists. Nada!!!!
Buddhist ideology on creation is that it has always been and will always be. There is no God creator. All things in a continuing process of Being.
When we analyse life we see creation happening every moment as is the way with everything we know in the cosmos.
Look at it.....
Everything...... literally everything comes into being, it is born, it lives a life span growing old and then dies, extinguished into constituent parts from whence it came.
Therefore everything is in a continuing process of creating. Every moment is a creation.
It is the nature of everything. No God necessary.
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| Sep 11 @ 7:44 PM |
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hammertime
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Absolutely no proof God exists. Nada!!!!
Really? What about all of these gods?
http://www.godchecker.com/
Of course they exist. All of them. Because it is written.
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| Sep 11 @ 7:47 PM |
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bevrice
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Anyone want to take a shot at how all those things "just happened"? That is way past evolution, way past coincidence.
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| Sep 11 @ 8:07 PM |
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horizon000
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I can't. But these people should be able to tell you in the near future.
Biologists on the verge of creating life.
LHC fired up in hunt for "God Particle".
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| Sep 11 @ 8:17 PM |
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BandTMom
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Anyone want to take a shot at how all those things "just happened"?
They didn't "just happen". They always were.
All you have to go by are words written in a book.
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| Sep 11 @ 8:19 PM |
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hammertime
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The point is Christian non-thinking can't answer real questions. All of it is made up and designed to stop a thinking mind. We have so much evidence for that.
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| Sep 11 @ 8:24 PM |
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bevrice
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No, science has proved that the earth wasn't always here. I read in Reader's Digest a while back that scientists were tracing the earth back and discovered that suddenly the earth was just here.
Now, hammer, a thinking mind would wonder and ponder on these things, you know.
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| Sep 11 @ 8:27 PM |
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hammertime
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The only persons I ever heard refer to Readers Digest about anything was one of my older aunts and Edith Bunker.
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