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16knots
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People would have us believe that people like Jesus give us power and faith and all the goodies to make us better people provided we have faith..
Fact of life is that Jesus has no power~!!!! Not one iota~!
Why?
If he had power then he would have brought us to greater spiritual levels in his time and to this day. All the spiritual greats would have done this act for us.
Why?
Because out of their compassion they would not wish us to suffer but find the love, peace, compassion and wisdom that they had found and had.
So what does it mean?
These people do NOT have the powers we are led to believe and blind faith is totally hopeless, even selfish and worse spiritually lazy~!
Why?
In all the teachings they taught us how to behave, how we should act, how we should become, IF, that is what we wanted to do out of the dame acts of love, compassion and wisdom.
WHY?
They had no power over us, could not give us power, could not change us but could only show us how to become for ourselves.
Bottom line....
GET OFF YOUR ARSES and work at being good, spiritual, aware of greater things then you are religiously led to believe~!!!
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| Sep 15 @ 11:07 AM |
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kywonder
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trying knots, I am trying.
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| Sep 15 @ 11:08 AM |
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16knots
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You arent you know, you are a Christian.
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| Sep 15 @ 11:29 AM |
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bevrice
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DARN, knots, you should have told me that fifty five years ago, when I might have believed you.
Any one want to convert to Buddhism with all those "wise" teachings, lol?
That is what he wants. Go read them and see if you learn anything you didn't already know. Such wisdom and comes from such DEEP inner searching. 
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| Sep 15 @ 11:40 AM |
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16knots
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Bevrice, ignorant as ever.
No Buddhism required~!
Only Common sense~!
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| Sep 15 @ 11:54 AM |
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bevrice
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Common sense? I love the one about when your foot touches the ground it feels the ground.
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| Sep 15 @ 11:59 AM |
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16knots
Posts: 3,627
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People would have us believe that people like Jesus give us power and faith and all the goodies to make us better people provided we have faith..
Fact of life is that Jesus has no power~!!!! Not one iota~!
Why?
If he had power then he would have brought us to greater spiritual levels in his time and to this day. All the spiritual greats would have done this act for us.
Why?
Because out of their compassion they would not wish us to suffer but find the love, peace, compassion and wisdom that they had found and had.
So what does it mean?
These people do NOT have the powers we are led to believe and blind faith is totally hopeless, even selfish and worse spiritually lazy~!
Why?
In all the teachings they taught us how to behave, how we should act, how we should become, IF, that is what we wanted to do out of the dame acts of love, compassion and wisdom.
WHY?
They had no power over us, could not give us power, could not change us but could only show us how to become for ourselves.
Bottom line....
GET OFF YOUR ARSES and work at being good, spiritual, aware of greater things then you are religiously led to believe~!!!
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| Sep 15 @ 12:18 PM |
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hammertime
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Only Common sense~! You know what kind of sense is common in the Bible Belt don't you?  Very little sense but very common stupidity.
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| Sep 15 @ 12:24 PM |
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kywonder
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You arent you know, you are a Christian.
Yes I am knots. And I am not on here to bash you. How you believe is your choice. I am not your master, I am not your god, nor would I try to stand in the way of how you believe. I am not like a bunch of other christians. I had enough of bashing by them when I was in a different denomination.
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| Sep 15 @ 12:41 PM |
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16knots
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Yes I am knots. And I am not on here to bash you.
You could try but it wont get you anywhere 
How you believe is your choice.
I am sure everyone knows that it is their choice. Common sense.
This is why you are a Christian and why you dont try.....
I am not your master,
You are neither male and neither know me to be in a position of such authority. So, why say it
I am not your god,
YOU have a God but it doesnt mean to say everyone has a God. So why say to me "I am not your God" besides the fact you can not be a God for various reasons but I like to think of a Goddess.
nor would I try to stand in the way of how you believe.
There isnt any lsentient being alive or dead capable. Not sure you would say such a thing
I am not like a bunch of other christians.
Thus far.... you arent trying hard enough.... 
I had enough of bashing by them when I was in a different denomination.
Nature of Christianity but not the nature of people. "Led to believe" comes to mind. At least you may have shown some common sense in this light 
Good try KY.... you have to try a little harder~!  
[Edited on 9/15/2008 1:04 PM]
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| Sep 15 @ 1:00 PM |
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kywonder
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It is not worth the effort.
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| Sep 15 @ 1:03 PM |
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16knots
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I know you feel that way hence my original premise.
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| Sep 15 @ 1:10 PM |
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kywonder
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I would rather post positive remarks towards others, not negative. Sorry, that is just the way I am. I try to see the good things in people.
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| Sep 15 @ 1:30 PM |
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16knots
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So you say this yet you didnt take any notice of what you had written:
I would rather post positive remarks towards others, not negative.
You didnt think for one moment your words had consequences. Do you feel what you write is correct for you and positive for you? What about the person you are communicating too? Do they not count, are they not worth learning from?
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| Sep 15 @ 3:12 PM |
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kywonder
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You didnt think for one moment your words had consequences. Do you feel what you write is correct for you and positive for you? What about the person you are communicating too? Do they not count, are they not worth learning from?
What remarks are you talking about? I was just trying to find some common ground.
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| Sep 15 @ 3:16 PM |
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kywonder
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It is not worth the effort. The reason I said this was because I felt that nothing I said would make you understand me. Not the Christian, but me.
And I do not like my feelings hurt either, especially since I am not trying to attack anyone.
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| Sep 15 @ 3:23 PM |
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16knots
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Did you read what you post to me after you write it?
What makes you assume I need a bashing, I need a choice in belief, need a Master, need or believe in a God, need to fight for a belief?
Do you really think I dont understand you  Not sure you understand yourself.... thus far it is the impression.
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| Sep 15 @ 3:32 PM |
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kywonder
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I was not trying to assume anything. I was just letting you know, how you believe is fine with me.
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| Sep 15 @ 4:22 PM |
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16knots
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But you did though, didnt you? For the reasons I give.
If I said to you:
Yes I am ky. And I am not on here to shag you. How you believe is your choice. I am not your Goddess, I am not your Sheva, nor would I try to stand in the way of how you aithise. I am not like a bunch of other hippies. I had enough of shagging by them when I was in a different commune.
How does that sound to you?
Is it any different?
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| Sep 15 @ 4:40 PM |
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yashaenka
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Being Saved, Saved from what yourself? Saved from another? Saved from Sin or Sin within your little closed system of words that have no being in others systems! 
How can you be Saved from Sin when you are expected to Sin and Sin again?
What do you say when your are Saved at last last I am Saved from myself when you do not even know what your self is?
There is No Power other than Self for Self is what you are and are not.
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