| Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM |
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Cynbaby
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I'm sure most of you read about this Church in the news....
Sorry, I know its a lot to absorb, but I wanted to paste the whole article that I was reading.
6 Kids in Custody Amid Child Porn Probe
FOUKE, Ark. (Sept. 21) - Six minors have been temporarily placed in state custody as part of a child porn investigation after a raid on a ministry run by a man who says "consent is puberty" when it comes to sex, officials said Sunday.
The children will be in the custody of the Arkansas Department of Human Services as investigators interview them, state police spokesman Bill Sadler said in a statement.
Sadler didn't say how long the interviews would last, but did say that courts would decide the children's status in the event of any "long-term separation" from the property of the Tony Alamo Christian Ministries in rural Fouke.
He did not say how old the children were, but an e-mail that authorities inadvertently sent to media members last week referred to 12-, 13- and 14-year-old girls.
The move comes after a raid Saturday by more than 100 federal and state authorities. Investigators said their two-year probe into allegations of child pornography and abuse focused on convicted tax evader Tony Alamo and his ministry, described by its critics as a cult.
Alamo claimed in a telephone interview with The Associated Press on Saturday that the investigation was part of a federal push to legalize same-sex marriage while outlawing polygamy. He also said for girls having sex, "consent is puberty."
News of the raid brought Anthony Justin Lane, 34, into Fouke from his job roofing in nearby Texarkana, hoping for some word about his family.
Lane said he has been trying for 10 years to reunite with his children, who belong to Alamo's ministry. Lane said he saw a 13-year-old girl marry a man of about 40 just before he was kicked out of the church for asking too many questions.
Lane hired a lawyer and said that he is trying to subpoena his girlfriend, but that it remains difficult as she moves among Alamo's churches in Arkansas and California.
Lane said he last saw his oldest daughter, who would now be 13, in 2005. She offered him a pamphlet as he sat in his car reading a newspaper outside Alamo's church in Fort Smith in 2005. When Lane told her he was her father, he said, she ran off.
He has received only a few photos since then of the 13-year-old, an 11-year-old daughter and a 9-year-old son from a relative. His longtime girlfriend was pregnant with the boy when Lane said he was expelled from the church for questioning its practices.
"I see pictures of those kids and I feel robbed — robbed of being a father," Lane told reporters.
"I keep laying it in the Lord's hands and hoping he'll have mercy on my children and protect them," he said.
Authorities' search of the Fouke complex ended after midnight Saturday, and Sadler said officials had no plans to search the buildings again. Authorities have not indicated any plans to search other ministry locations.
Sunday afternoon, a van ferried members back and forth from a nearby 15-acre compound to the church on U.S. 71. Two women, one pushing a stroller, entered the building along with several children. A man at the door told reporters that "no visitors" would be allowed in for the services.
U.S. Attorney Bob Balfe declined to comment when asked whether an arrest warrant had been issued for Alamo or other members of his church. Balfe said before the raid that he expected a warrant to be issued for the 74-year-old leader.
As fog lifted Sunday morning from Fouke, no police cruisers blocked the dead-end drive up to Alamo's compound, as they had Saturday evening. Alamo's house, an L-shaped ranch home, sat empty with decorative bars over its windows. A black Cadillac Escalade was parked in the carport. The red-and-blue canopy of a carnival carousel could be seen from behind the home.
Peacocks walked past the house, where the public road ends. Two gravel roads led off to either side, one winding its way back into the compound, the other off to a basketball court where an RV sat parked. Black cattle gates blocked entry to the roads.
Other homes with brick fronts sat throughout the compound. Some didn't have exterior siding, while others appeared to be mobile homes parked on cinderblocks. Uniformed security guards patrolled the grounds and sat near the gates. None carried a pistol, though Purvis said some have in the past.
A worker mowed the lawn in front of the compound and church Sunday afternoon as television news trucks passed by. A guard stationed there declined to comment and said no one was available to talk to reporters.
Alamo and his late wife Susan were street preachers along Hollywood's Sunset Strip in 1966 before forming a commune near Saugus, Calif. Susan Alamo died of cancer in 1982; Alamo claimed she would be resurrected and kept her body on display for six months while their followers prayed.
Alamo was convicted of tax-related charges in 1994 after the IRS said he owed the government $7.9 million. He served four years in prison.
Prosecutors in the tax case argued before sentencing that Alamo was a flight risk and a polygamist who preyed on married women and girls in his congregation.
The Southern Poverty Law Center, which monitors the activities of extremist groups in the U.S., describes Alamo's ministry as a cult that opposes homosexuality, Catholicism and the gov.
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| Sep 22 @ 12:07 PM |
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hammertime
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by a man who says "consent is puberty" If he read the Babylonian Talmud then he would have said 3 years and a day is consent.
The Southern Poverty Law Center, which monitors the activities of extremist groups in the U.S., describes Alamo's ministry as a cult that opposes homosexuality, And Ted Haggard was really against homosexuality too. 
When it comes to religion, especially Christianity, you will find the most sickest and most horrible violations against humanity. Everything from Jesus Camp to psychologically disturbed people doing exorcisms in the 21st Century. Sexual perversion is rampant in these groups. We saw examples of perversion right here.
It seems that decent and sane Christians are the exception to the rule. Its sad for them to put up with this. As Bishop Spong said, Christianity must reform or die off.
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| Sep 22 @ 12:09 PM |
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Cynbaby
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It breaks my heart to read what these children have gone through. An entire childhood lost 
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| Sep 22 @ 12:36 PM |
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eastham
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The Village Voice wrote a lengthy piece on Tony Alamo in May calling his practices into question. Why did it take them so long? Article from Village Voice, May 2008.
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| Sep 22 @ 1:11 PM |
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Cynbaby
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Lovely picture of him 
I didn't read the entire article yet, still working on it.
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| Sep 22 @ 1:33 PM |
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hammertime
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Here's the ministry's website
http://www.alamoministries.com/content/english/index.html
I bet his delusional congregation are praying really hard now.
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| Sep 22 @ 1:33 PM |
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Thor1960303
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And Ted Haggard was really against homosexuality too.
Yes he was, he leaned heavily against the gay male prostitute who bent over for him.
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| Sep 22 @ 1:41 PM |
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Cynbaby
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Thanks for the website Hamm  , this guy really hates the Catholic Church, doesn't he?
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| Sep 22 @ 2:20 PM |
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hammertime
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Here's a watchdog site. Pretty interesting... One day religion needs to be outlawed and then we can all rest easy.
http://www.tonyalamonews.com/189/the-many-wives-of-tony-alamo.php
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| Sep 22 @ 2:28 PM |
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Cynbaby
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One day religion needs to be outlawed and then we can all rest easy. Well..except Catholicism 
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| Sep 22 @ 4:39 PM |
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hammertime
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Oh come on!! Everytime they close a church they open up a Limelight club.
See ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Limelight
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| Sep 22 @ 4:40 PM |
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Cynbaby
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| Sep 22 @ 5:46 PM |
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BandTMom
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This stuff makes me sick.
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| Sep 22 @ 6:07 PM |
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horizon000
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Me too. What sickens me is this parasite hooks up with several women and young girls (as young as 11) and tries to justify it with scripture. And to make matters worse, he has followers !! People who actually believe in him.
What the f*ck is wrong with these people ? Shoot the lot of them.
And I'm going to hell ?
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| Sep 23 @ 2:00 AM |
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Angel54214
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Here's a whole series of news vids abouth this...
http://www.tonyalamonews.com/602/breaking-news-video-broadcasts-updated-92208.php
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| Sep 23 @ 8:00 AM |
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waterfire
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THat is pretty sick, why or how it has gone on as long as it has is mind numbing 
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| Sep 23 @ 8:10 AM |
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hammertime
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Mind numbing is the perfect expression. Religions such as this serve to numb the mind because all thinking is replaced with blind faith. The question should be asked, what is it about Christianity that makes it such a perfect tool to numb the mind in this way? Why have there been so many examples of that?
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| Sep 23 @ 8:39 AM |
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waterfire
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Sorry it is a human condition not a religious one, this example/thread just shows a conman that preys on people's need to find something in their life. So do you think it would be better to say that people need to understand that yes, something is out there and no, trust yourself and not some religious leader or movement.
*hmm, I think this particular example attracts sickos more than someone that is looking for something in there life.
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| Sep 23 @ 10:03 AM |
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pamdemonium
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The investigation includes girls from the ages of 12 -14, but has been ongoing for two years. How young were they then? Sickening. You're right, Cyn. Childhood lost. String him up by his balls. 
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| Sep 23 @ 10:07 AM |
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CPUfan
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Hi Pam 
Yes I'm glad you still have lethal injection in some states over there and I can think of a good use for it...
Hmmm Belgium has introduced chemical castration, could that be another possibility for this filth??
Paedophiles often seem to THINK they are religious anyway. They should heed their own warnings about what happens to the wicked unbelievers.
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