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16knots
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Secular humanism is a humanist philosophy that upholds reason, ethics and justice, and specifically rejects the supernatural and the spiritual as the basis of moral reflection and decision-making. Like other types of humanism, secular humanism is a life stance focusing on the way human beings can lead good and happy lives.
The term "secular humanism" was coined in the 20th century to make a clear distinction from "religious humanism". A related concept is "scientific humanism", which biologist Edward O. Wilson claimed to be "the only worldview compatible with science's growing knowledge of the real world and the laws of nature"
Tenets
Secular humanism describes a world view with the following elements and principles:[2]
* Need to test beliefs – A conviction that dogmas, ideologies and traditions, whether religious, political or social, must be weighed and tested by each individual and not simply accepted on faith.
* Reason, evidence, scientific method – A commitment to the use of critical reason, factual evidence and scientific methods of inquiry, rather than faith and mysticism, in seeking solutions to human problems and answers to important human questions.
* Fulfillment, growth, creativity – A primary concern with fulfillment, growth and creativity for both the individual and humankind in general.
* Search for truth – A constant search for objective truth, with the understanding that new knowledge and experience constantly alter our imperfect perception of it.
* This life – A concern for this life and a commitment to making it meaningful through better understanding of ourselves, our history, our intellectual and artistic achievements, and the outlooks of those who differ from us.
* Ethics – A search for viable individual, social and political principles of ethical conduct, judging them on their ability to enhance human well-being and individual responsibility.
* Building a better world – A conviction that with reason, an open exchange of ideas, good will, and tolerance, progress can be made in building a better world for ourselves and our children.
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How does this sound to people.....?
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| Sep 24 @ 10:41 AM |
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yashaenka
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Secularity (adjective form secular) is the state of being separate from religion.[1] For instance, eating and bathing may be regarded as examples of secular activities, because there is nothing inherently religious about them. (Note, however, that both eating and bathing are regarded as sacraments by some religious organizations, and therefore would be religious activities in their worldview.) Saying a prayer derived from religious text or doctrine, worshipping through the context of religion, and attending Sunday School are examples of religious (non-secular) activities. However prayer and meditation are not necessarily non-secular being that the concept of spirituality and higher consciousness are not married solely to any religion but are practiced and arose independently across a continuum of cultures.  Wiki
It sounds to me like Lao Tzu, the Buddha and Heraclitus are examples of this and Mono or Polytheism are not....
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| Sep 24 @ 10:46 AM |
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16knots
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Yash, I was just watching a Carl Sagan programme and he was a Secular Humanist, so just looking into it and it sounds fascinating.
It certainly had its origins in these areas. Wiki mentions Confucius.
Must look into it more during the weeks or see what people say here in the thread.
It funny really, I find it has more of a reflection in my political views 
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| Sep 24 @ 10:50 AM |
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hammertime
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Christianity is categorically opposed to the tenets of secular humanism. I think SOC should go over each one and give examples from the holy spirit.
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| Sep 24 @ 10:58 AM |
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yashaenka
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There is some overlap in what Confucius put forward and Lao Tzu put forward when it comes to conduct. But in Lao Tzu's words he stated.
Where Confucius ends Taoism begins. They both were truly Secular..
It certainly had its origins in these areas. Wiki mentions Confucius.
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| Sep 24 @ 11:38 AM |
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Thor1960303
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How does this sound to people.....?
It works for me, yet coming up, I heard it denounced many times from the pulpit as "Satanic deception".
The principles used to describe S.H. are the same used by the founding fathers of the USA when they developed the principles in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, contrary to the belief of many Christians who envision the founding fathers having a prayer meeting every time they drafted an idea.
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| Sep 24 @ 11:43 AM |
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yashaenka
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I heard that about Mormons, Catholics, Jews and Islam.
One of the problems we face in this country is legally any 3 people can start any not for profit church. A minister [self proclaimed] a Secretary, and a Accountant.
There is no Educational requirement for any of these.
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| Sep 24 @ 11:56 AM |
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hammertime
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There is no Educational requirement for any of these. Two of the gifts of the holy spirit is knowledge and wisdom. We have been shown examples from so many Christians saying so many vile mealy mouthed platitudes they consider wisdom. A group of people who use no logic, no means of testing what they believe, no self-examination, no rationality. Yet they think they know some kind of truth of something that has no existence from a book of fairytales thats been proven wrong on many levels. They think that is wisdom and knowledge. Their "evidence" is a mental breakdown where someone rolls around the floor yamming all sorts of nonsense gibberish and then they abuse someone with an exorcism. All that proves they are sick and stupid people who are victims of the most long lived practical joke ever. If Satan did exist and played such a joke, that would be it. What better way to fossilize the human mind than with scripture?
[Edited on 9/24/2008 11:59 AM]
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| Sep 24 @ 11:58 AM |
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Skydognc
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QUIT PISSIN OF THE MOD'S !!!!!!!!!!!
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| Sep 24 @ 12:01 PM |
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Thor1960303
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There is no Educational requirement for any of these.
Hmmm, I wonder....  Would it be an infringement of the First Ammendment if certain requirements were made of churches before they could make certain boastful claims?
For example: If you claim to be an expert in a certain field, should you not be required to carry a degree from an accredited school of such study/discipline BEFORE you can legally hang a shingle outside your church? If you claim to be able to heal folks of certain infirmities, should you not be required to hold some sort of medical degree?
Maybe it's high time a few churches were civally sued for the results of bogus claims.
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| Sep 24 @ 12:25 PM |
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hammertime
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How is one an expert in anything that has no proof, no evidence, no veracity and therefore no authority that could exist to oversee it? The way that works is anyone who calls themselves a minister or reverend claims authority because they're holding a book of fables. Now, imagine your medical doctor about to perform surgery on you and then holding a book, Idiots Guide to Brain Surgery and claiming authority and knowledge to open up your skull. Is there any difference?
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| Sep 24 @ 12:33 PM |
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yashaenka
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The Feds I think leave that to the local DA under the fraud laws. Unless they of course they cross state lines then the fraud can be Federal.
This entire area is a 3rd rail of politics that politicians avoid because of the influences of the churches in voting.
Yes the government shall not infringe on Religion a catch all Religions hide behind.
Each state has laws about medical practices and even religions that refuse medical care can get away with it for adults but the parents can have their children taken away and charged with a crime if it causes a childs death and there were one or more doctors who claim they intentional put their children in harms way.
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