| Nov 14, 2008 @ 9:48 AM |
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sail_dancer
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Christians constantly ask me the question: “Exactly what do you have against Christian doctrine?”
I have answered this many times and it seems that Christians just cannot grasp why I feel as I do. Why is this? Am I missing something about how Christians interpret their dogma?
The problem I have is actually with any religion that worships the “God of Abraham”. The reason I am zeroing in on Christians is that they are in the majority in these forums.
Why would intelligent, peaceful, loving people choose to worship a god that based on their scriptures is jealous and condones murder, rape and genocide when undertaken in his/her/its name?
I have heard many reasons presented, but the answers do not make sense to me.
Maybe some Christians out there can help set me straight.
My biggest concern is what extent a Christian will go to please their god.
Here are some questions I have for Christians that may help clear things up:
1. If you were walking this earth during the time of Moses and Joshua, would you have followed the god of Abraham’s instructions to murder, rape and carry out genocide against non-believers?
2. If your answer to #1 was in the negative, then why would you worship this god today? If you took that viewpoint back then, you would have been one of the casualties of this god.
3. If your answer to #1 was in the affirmative, if this god that you have a personal relationship with asked you to carry out similar atrocities today? …… Would you do it?
4. If you answered #3 in the negative, again, why would you continue worship of this god?
5. If you answered #3 in the affirmative, then you are a good example why I am so opposed to dogma based on the worship of the god of Abraham.
Many Christians will say that god changed with the establishment of the New Covenant. These same Christians will tell you that god never changes. The Gospel of Luke has Jesus saying:19:27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. So what has changed between the OT and NT? The same message is being delivered. That being accept the reign of the god of Abraham or have his followers slay you!
If anyone that reads this cannot see the dangers with the teaching of this dogma, I would appreciate them explaining their reasons for such belief.
This problem is very evident in the Middle East where there have been constant wars ever since the Jews introduced the god of Abraham to this world. It is not limited to that portion of the earth as evident by the 9/11 terrorist attacks on US soil.
I would appreciate responses on why you feel as you do on this subject. I will even promise not to post a rebut to your response unless you ask me a question or you make personal accusations against me.
Since Jews and Muslims also worship the god of Abraham, I hope to hear from them also.
I hope this topic can be discussed without the usual outbursts and mudslinging.
Peace
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| Nov 14, 2008 @ 9:50 AM |
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eastham
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Sail,
You're on the wrong forum!
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| Nov 14, 2008 @ 9:58 AM |
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sail_dancer
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East,
I din't know how this happened. I was in Religion and Spirituality when I created it.
Mods,
Please arrange to have this thread moved to Religion & Spirituallity and have East's and this post removed.
Thanks!
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| Nov 14, 2008 @ 10:07 AM |
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lj450
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Oh, Im sure some Christian is playing a trick on you.
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| Nov 14, 2008 @ 10:08 AM |
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vinnytmd
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sail - no one cares about your phony quiz or what you think about religions.
You do not understand religion. You are out of touch with what religion is.
You prove this time after time when you discuss religion in the correct forum.
Ignorance breeds prejudice and hate.
It is obvious that you have a sick obsession against religion and religious people.
How unpeaceful. 
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| Nov 14, 2008 @ 10:08 AM |
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vinnytmd
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The Lord works in mysterious ways!
sail - how about a Plumber joke?
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| Nov 14, 2008 @ 10:12 AM |
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KatiefromStafford
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vinny, how about a little respect.. I have posted in the wrong thread, everyone has, so just don't bother to post on this one until the mods do their magic.
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| Nov 14, 2008 @ 10:15 AM |
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lj450
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Hey katie. How about a big old cup of STFU?
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| Nov 14, 2008 @ 10:27 AM |
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vinnytmd
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katie - he did not post in the wrong thread. Evil spirits moved it here to thwart the Anti Religion Crusade!
Praise the Lord!
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| Nov 14, 2008 @ 10:55 AM |
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Kenn159
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Vinny read the mod rules, no attacking the poster.
Show the same respect to Sail that he has given you by not returning your attack.
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| Nov 14, 2008 @ 10:56 AM |
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scumbagvinny
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Looks like Vinny is up to his old tricks again. What a loser in real life with nothing else better to do. He's a fake too...
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| Nov 14, 2008 @ 10:57 AM |
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Kenn159
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LJ, you know were you can put that STFU.
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| Nov 14, 2008 @ 11:01 AM |
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scumbagvinny
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Vinny is creep in real life.
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| Nov 14, 2008 @ 11:03 AM |
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vinnytmd
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kenn - this thread is disrespectful as are most that he posts.
This man of peace  woke up this morning and immediately posed two threads bashing religion.
As we can the the devil got a hold of this one to thwart his venomous activities.
Go moderate another website kenn.
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| Nov 14, 2008 @ 11:05 AM |
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vinnytmd
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OH NO - hammetime has come back once AGAIN!
OCD there hammertime?
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| Nov 14, 2008 @ 11:38 AM |
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sail_dancer
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Vinny,
kenn - this thread is disrespectful as are most that he posts. Where is it disrespectful?
Because it posts questions to your personal beliefs, you categorize it as disrespectful? If that is the case, almost every post in the politics forum and religious forum should be labeled as disrespectful to someone.
You are the only one being disrespectful since you are attacking the poster and not the message of the post.
This man of peace woke up this morning and immediately posed two threads bashing religion. We will now have to update all the world's dictionaries to change the meaning of the word "question" to include it meaning "bashing" if the question is on Vinny's beliefs.
As we can the the devil got a hold of this one to thwart his venomous activities. Keep up the attack. Just shows that you are affraid to answer the questions I posted and can't even explain why you believe as you do.
Who is attacking who here?
Peace
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| Nov 14, 2008 @ 11:44 AM |
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vinnytmd
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I get it sail.
TATA - have fun.
I think the Devil misplaced this and should have deposited this in Jokes.
Why do you care what anyone else believes?
Does my belief bother you?
Why does it bother you sail?
Are you insecure in your beliefs?
Do you ever post a POSITIVE thread?
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| Nov 14, 2008 @ 11:46 AM |
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SaintBacon
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How is asking honest questions disrespectful? Maybe because they can't be answered? Those that can't discuss intelligently always seem to resort to name-calling and insults ANYONE secure in their beliefs does not need to resort to such negative responses. Either answer the question or not...pretty simple really.
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| Nov 14, 2008 @ 11:57 AM |
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sail_dancer
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Vinny,
Why do you care what anyone else believes? When beliefs can result in a 9/11 atrocity, I think I and others have the right to question these beliefs.
Does my belief bother you? Your personal belief? I wouldn't know, you didn't answer my questions?
Why does it bother you sail? The question should be: "Why doesn't it bother you?"
Are you insecure in your beliefs? I am very secure in my beliefs. I just refuse to let those beliefs blind me to other explanations.
Do you ever post a POSITIVE thread? I have posted many positive threads. You only seem to be interested in threads that you want to disrupt because they differ from your beliefs. I think that most internet users call it TROLLING.
Peace
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| Nov 14, 2008 @ 12:02 PM |
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vinnytmd
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When beliefs can result in a 9/11 atrocity, I think I and others have the right to question these beliefs
So then why didn't you post a thread about Muslims. Did Christians bomb the WTC sail? Can you document this event?
I have posted many positive threads. You only seem to be interested in threads that you want to disrupt because they differ from your beliefs. I think that most internet users call it TROLLING.
Sorry sail - that is BS.
You post threads that try to discredit Religious beliefs.
Here is a hint - WE DON"T CARE
Those of us that have Religious beliefs are not going to be swayed by your obsessive venomous posts.
Like "Christain DOGMA blablablabla" Or "Followers of Abrahamic (not a fookin word) Religions blablablablabla."
You have been posting the same stuff for years. You must be a slow learner. 
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