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May 3 @ 9:28 AM special relativity    
eyesofastranger


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Sunday morning and for some reason I feel like writing something really long-haired. How about intelligent design, special relativity and the fabric of space-time, does that quialify?
In order for Einstien to make his special relativty work he had a problem. He ran into what he fumbled to explain and simply called spooky action at a distance. So I should start by explaining why it must be if special relativity is true. If everything is interconnected in subspace you don't drive to walmat like you thought it all worked. You change your mass and create a small time distortion essentialy changing the location of you matter in the universe until your matter is parked at walmart the you decrease you mass (park the car) and slighty increase your mass though bipedal motivation (shopping) Welcome to Albert world. If there is a connection between all mater in sub-space then this time distortion is the only way to move matter. Let exagerate our experiment a bit. Your on a spaceship with anti-mater engines producing 1g of acceleration. after a year your mass is almost the same as the moon. Your body should produce micro gravity. It doesn't. Look out your window and photons are passing your ship relative to you at YEP the speed of light. Your not moving per se, your dialating time. So if all life is also connected this way then if we go to the deep ocean and look at like that underwent genesis and evolved around black smokers they should be animals we recognize like tube worms and shrimp. Guess what? Unfortunately CERN and their supercollider is broken down so the (End of the world) real answer will have to wait.
wiki spooky action
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May 3 @ 9:56 AM special relativity    
CPUfan


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I'm still not entirely over my hangover, but I can see the sense and purpose of your post...

I've always felt related to the rest of the universe... even its most distant connections. It's a weakness I've been working on (the hangover I mean) but I'll be back to contemplate the expanse of infinity more 'closely' soon...

Tubes, organs and salt water courses... Isn't that what all life is basically all about? I mean, carrying our sea, oxygen, universe and energy sources around with us?

Do they have a universal consciousness in at Walmart yet? I'll ask one of the checkout chicks on my next visit... might be faster than I think lol...

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May 3 @ 10:00 AM special relativity    
eyesofastranger


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well it doesn't lead to the existance of a god actively hiding his existance in order to test our faith.

Of course those on this side of the argument will also insist that God is capable of anything He likes—which immediately begs the question, why there should need to be fixed constants at all. Why couldn’t He simply make it so that life is capable of forming no matter what the conditions under which the building blocks of RNA and DNA form might happen to be?

the universal constant
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May 3 @ 10:20 AM special relativity    
CPUfan


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That is correct, Eyes. It would be implausible for the universe to conceal itself in order to test our faith in its existence.

I would be very surprised to wake up one morning to find that the universe has uninvented itself by neutralising all of its active components... But I suppose that anything is possible, as long as the universe of energy is in control, by its own laws...
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May 3 @ 11:15 AM special relativity    
iam01


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I was just thinking about the singularity. Perhaps we remain a singularity with the illusion of expansion because we are observing it from within the singularity. It would explain entanglement because things remain entangled. Our concept of a singularity expanding is in relation to something external which is what? Another universe? An omniverse? At this time we can only see what is internally within the universe. The singularity is the universe.



Hmmm, I better drink some more coffee....

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May 3 @ 11:22 AM special relativity    
iam01


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The Universal Constant, another great article.
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May 3 @ 11:36 AM special relativity    
Thor1960303


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If everything is interconnected in subspace you don't drive to walmat like you thought it all worked. You change your mass and create a small time distortion essentialy changing the location of you matter in the universe until your matter is parked at walmart the you decrease you mass (park the car) and slighty increase your mass though bipedal motivation (shopping) Welcome to Albert world. If there is a connection between all mater in sub-space then this time distortion is the only way to move matter.

I was going to say that I was about to alter my mass and create a small time distortion on my way to the gym, but it sounds like so much work doing that, that I won't need to work out once I get there.

So I think I'll just drive. Happy sunday guys.
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May 3 @ 12:05 PM special relativity    
eyesofastranger


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I'm not suggesting ID through a creator but through nothing more than infinite possibilities and cellular consciousness. Abraham type God is out of a job sort of thing. As you all probably have guessed I offer no proof just a theory to get the grey matter working.
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May 3 @ 1:37 PM special relativity    
Heaveninawildflower


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Well I hoisted my fair share of margies last night, but no hangover. Evem so 10:30
on Sunday morning after a cinco de mayo party's a little too early to deal with this. As for inter-relatedness, I believe it's true because I arrived at it intuitively and while I can't prove it definitively, I've yet to see anything convincing that disproves it, only one thing after another that suggests that it's true.

Meanwhile, later for the links and trying to comprehend spookiness...
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May 3 @ 5:31 PM special relativity    
CPUfan


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Yep is the universe actually internatural? (As opposed to supernatural)
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May 4 @ 6:26 PM special relativity    
eyesofastranger


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Heaven the human mind isn't built to properly understand intertwined other dimensions. We do it with math. I suppose the reason I have liked this theory for a while now is it solves everything from genesis to evolution.
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May 4 @ 8:02 PM special relativity    
Peabianjay


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eyes: Heaven the human mind isn't built trained to properly understand intertwined other dimensions
It's just a matter of education. We spend lots (all of it!) of time witnessing 3 dimensions (+ time), so we're really good at it. For those that study other dimensions extensively....visualization & understanding is possible. One extra dimension isn't particularly difficult and some can do more.

Studying relationships between dimensions is fun (for me, anyway).

Of course, some people can't handle "left vs. right" unless they're facing the same direction as the person giving directions.

(Which curiously reminds me of a "fun" driving game. Best with 3 passengers. Don't like "backseat" drivers? Hehe....get the 3 passangers to all provide directions....but insist one person switch left & right, one person switch north & south, and the third person switch east & west. Have at it! )
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May 5 @ 5:00 AM special relativity    
eyesofastranger


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we understand extra dimensions. Not precisely. Hey play asteroids and hit the warp button. You understand your ship has gone into the computers random number generator. We allow for the possibility of worm holes and have built them in our minds multidimensionaly. I don't believe the human mind can get a really accurate bead on the reality of a string like folding inter dimension. Maybe there are some much smarter than me and they have the capability. I do enjoy trying to build them mentally.
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May 5 @ 12:36 PM special relativity    
Gallows_Humor


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this theory is not about "god".. but about the fabric of "god's creation"

when I cut..I bleed.....so..."god" did create a shell to contain all this interconnected matter...

Iam at a loss here...as intelligent design says..

"It proves there is a "god" and it proves that this god is not the god of abraham...

therefore......."

why can't the "god of abraham" be the same god as "the god of intelligent design"??

there is nothing in any of the acts of the bible that cannot be explained by thought...except genesis...
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May 5 @ 12:45 PM special relativity    
iam01


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What do delusions prove? They prove credulity and gullibility. They prove a lack of understanding and knowledge to examine the facts and evidence.
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May 5 @ 12:47 PM special relativity    
Gallows_Humor


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that you are delusional??





your point is??


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May 5 @ 12:49 PM special relativity    
iam01


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The point is you're living in a fantasy world of superstition and ignorance. You don't even know what a proof is.

Or maybe your proof is so mind blowing its just too complicated for us to understand. Whats the proof again?

[Edited on 5/5/2009 12:57 PM]
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May 5 @ 2:16 PM special relativity    
Peabianjay


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If any proof provided is dismissed as "extraneous data", simply because it proves something you refuse to believe...

Then that, in itself, is proof that your beliefs, Iam, are faith, not "science".
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May 5 @ 2:23 PM special relativity    
iam01


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Well maybe to a moron but no proof was ever provided, nor any evidence, nor any observable facts. So where is it?
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May 5 @ 2:29 PM special relativity    
Peabianjay


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Plenty of proof, evidence and observable facts have been presented.

You've dismissed it all since it doesn't fit your faith.
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